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  1. Cohen explained himself in a backstage interview:[1] "I think it means exactly what it says. It is a terrorist song. I think it's a response to terrorism. There's something about terrorism that I've always admired. The fact that there are no alibis or no compromises. That position is always very attractive. I don't like it when it's manifested on the physical plane - I don't really enjoy the terrorist activities – but Psychic Terrorism. I remember there was a great poem by Irving Layton that I once read, I'll give you a paraphrase of it. It was 'well, you guys blow up an occasional airline and kill a few children here and there', he says. 'But our terrorists, Jesus, Freud, Marx, Einstein. The whole world is still quaking.'"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_We_Take_Manhattan


  2. So Legge's 'loosening' loosely fits ?

    yes, totally. I vaguely remember that some commentator belive  帝 to be an error for some type of a cord. 


  3. Yeah, punishment is, imo, not the proper word,  Perhaps "result"?

    looking at the original it is indeed punishment. Because who wails for a stranger as if for a family member  will incur heavenly punishment , because  family is mandated by heaven and pretending that a stranger is family is against heaven.

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    Problem is you WWIII is nigh, ..., paranoia. 

     

    ... admit the answer is Never.  

     

    To believe that a recently twice occurred event will sometime occur  again is paranoia.

    To believe that a recently twice occurred event will never occur  again is__________?

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  5. It's interesting to consider that the black magic concerns of the public are really a cheap, unintelligent bastardization of Western occultism...perhaps entirely ineffective, merely ridiculous, and gross.

     

    I would venture that it was always just like that to begin with.

     

     

     

    Yet, the power hungry and corrupt (in entertainment and perhaps politics) flock to it, and thereby give it the appearance of legitimacy.

     

    Umm, no, no...the already very powerful and the very wealthy flock to it. May be they know something, otherwise why they are so rich if they are that stupid?

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  6. hey, 

     

    I practice vipassana, even though lately not having time to practice it....

     

    anyways my case is, when i m really feeling and focusing on body, a really painful sensation arises around heart, more like a circle or lines around it (around the middle of my chest where the heart is located).

     

    Also, when i investigate other parts of the body (with focus), there is a string of pain (dunno if it is a meridian) coming from my middle finger and moves up my arm to chest and to that circle of pain. usually that string of pain comes like waves of pulsation going into the heart.

     

     

     

    any ideas? any help is appreciated. 

     

     

    You need to stop doing the bolded. You are frying your heart and i hope it sounds as dangerous as it is. There is no other way to help this self-inflicted condition.


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    Bottom line to everyone reading this thread:

     

    I stand by what I say. If anyone doesn't believe it or thinks I'm bullshitting or thinks that we are conning people - Then I invite them to attend an initiation and prove me wrong, although I imagine by now, since we've been initiating people since the early 70s and have over 140,000+ Dao Yu, that someone would have snuffed us out right? - Naaah. That would be inconceivable.

     

     

    Thanks for the opportunity to ask this:

     

    Does each and every participant get a successful initiation or there are those who fail? What is the fail/ success ratio?


  8. The marsh pheasant has to take ten steps before it finds something to pick at and has to take a hundred steps before it gets a drink.  But the pheasant would prefer not to be raised in a cage where, though you treat it like a king, its spirit would not thrive.

    Mair garbled up the original by inserting 'has to' which is not in the original, making up hardship in finding water, without realizing that there should be none in a marsh. He invents a contrast between imaginary hardship in the wild and abundance in a coop. The original has no such contrast.

     

    What ZZ is trying to say that although a cooped pheasant is amply provided with water and feed in a coop, he does not need that much since he has all needed food and drink freely available in the wild; He is unhappy in a coop because his spirit has a premonition of how it is gonna end.

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  9.   and has to take a hundred steps before it gets a drink.   

    Still why? In a marsh water is everywhere.


  10. interesting that a bird in a marsh has hard time finding water to drink. unless its not water , maybe there is a pub in hundred steps away.

     

    once a marsh pheasant, a butterfly and Zhuan-zi walk into a bar...

     

    actually scratch that the original specifically says water

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  11. It looks to me like the dude has a broken leg.  

     

    http://humanum.arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-mf/search.php?word=%E4%BB%8B

     

    yes quite)

     

    Maybe Mair left it out because he couldn't identify the character?  And maybe it is an older character that is no longer used?

     

     

     

    No, it is current.

     

    (1)  Armor, mail: 介夫 [jie4fu0], 介冑 [jie4zhou2]↓.

    (2)  (Zoo.) crustaceans: 介瞉 [jie4ke2], 介蟲 [jie4chong2]↓;

    鱗介類 fish and crustaceans.

    (3)  (Interch. 芥) a thing of little or no value, a trifle: 一介不取 will not take a cent.

    (4)  Stage direction for certain movements: 飲酒介 drinking wine;

    相見介 (of two persons) meeting;

    張生笑介 Chang smiles or laughs.

    (5)  (U.f. 价) a manservant.

    (6)  A surname.

    V.i. & t. (1)  To lie between, interpose, serve as intermediary: 介紹 [jie4shao4]↓;

    介於二者之間 situated between the two;

    介紹 introduce one person to another;

    媒介 a medium or go-between;

    介詞 [jie4ci2]↓.

    (2)  Pray for blessing:以介眉壽 to pray for blessing of long life;

    介壽 [jie4shou4]↓.

    (3)  Keep in mind, take seriously: 介意 [jie4yi4], 介懷 [jie4huai2], 介介 [jie4jie4]↓.

    Adj. (1)  Simple, plain: 一介書生 a mere scholar;

    一介武夫 a plain soldier.

    (2)  Huge, big: 介福 [jie4fu2]↓.

    (3)  ([ga4]) Such a : 像煞有介事 (Shanghai dial.) make such a fuss about it, put on such airs.

    (4)  Upright, straightforward, conscientious: 耿介 scrupulous, acting on principles;

    介然 [jie4ran2]↓.

    Adj. & adv. Alone:介立 [jie4li4], 介特 [jie4te4]↓.

    Words 1. 介蟲 [jie4chong2], n., (zoo.) crustaceans.

    2. 介弟 [jie4di4], n., (court.) your brother.

    3. 介夫 [jie4fu0], n., (AC) an armed soldier.

    4. 介福 [jie4fu2], n., great happiness, untold blessings; also v.i., pray for blessings.

    5. 介懷 [jie4huai2], v.i., bear a grievance, take offense.

    6. 介介 [jie4jie4], adj., uneasy, troubled, full of misgivings.

    7. 介冑 [jie4zhou2], n., ancient military dress (“armor and helmet”).

    8. 介彀 [jie4ke2], n., shells of crabs, oysters, lobsters or snails.

    9. 介立 [jie4li4], v.i., stand alone.

    10. 介然 [jie4ran2], adj. & adv., steadfast(ly), uncompromising(ly).

    11. 介紹 [jie4shao4], v.t., (1) introduce (one person) to another (also 紹介); (2) serve as an intermediary.

    12. 介壽 [jie4shou4], n., offer of birthday congratulations.

    13. 介特 [jie4te4], n., (AC) one without family or friend: 養老疾,收介特 (AC) take care of the aged and the sick and give shelter to the homeless.

    14. 介詞 [jie4ci2], n., (gram.) a preposition.

    15. 介子 [jie4zi3], n., (phys.) a mesotron.

    16. 介意 [jie4yi4], v.i., feel hurt: 請不要介意 please do not take it to heart, see [jie4huai2]↑.

     

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  12. where is the problematic footed issue, or at least explained... just a mistranslation?  now looking for original.. 

    For some reason every body takes  to be one-legged, which is not in any dictionary or text I checked.

     

    公文軒見右師而驚曰:「是何人也?惡乎介也?天與,其人與?」

    曰:「天也,非人也。天之生是使獨也,人之貌有與也。以是知其天也,非人也。」

    http://ctext.org/zhuangzi/nourishing-the-lord-of-life

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  13. Ah, now i get it thanks to you guys.

     

    When Gong-wen Xian saw the Master of the Left, he was startled, and said, 'What sort of man is this? How is it he looks so unique? Is it from Heaven? or learned from other men?'

     

    Then it was said, 'It must be from Heaven, and not from men. Heaven gives birth to every person as a separate entity. But men have common countenance. By this I know that his uniqueness is from Heaven, and not from men.'

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  14. I do not understand what is going on here. Lets say some one was born one-legged. Why do they state the obvious that it is an inborn deformity as  some kind of revelation? How can an inborn deformity be 'from man'? There is no 'marrow' or 'one-legged' in the original, either. Methinks the translators do not understand this passage as well.

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  15. There seems to be something missing here..

     

    When Gong-wen Xian saw the Master of the Left, he was startled, and said, 'What sort of man is this? How is it he has but one foot? Is it from Heaven? or from Man?'

    Then he added, 'It must be from Heaven, and not from Man. Heaven's making of this man caused him to have but one foot. In the person of man, each foot has its marrow. By this I know that his peculiarity is from Heaven, and not from Man.

     

    /Legge/

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  16. The Dao that does not judge, ..

    For judging what is, rather than what is good and bad, we have the mechanism of karma, which we engineer through our own deeds.

     

    Judgment other than this is simply an exercise of the physical mind 

     

    I'm surprised you don't know this considering that it's in most "Taoist Texts" :P

    I dont even know what it means let alone it is in the texts;) But, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_nihilism , check.

     

    Your school provides therapeutic services, making the world a better place. I particularly like the one-seminar MO. Whether a participant succeeds or fails, at least he will not be strung along fruitlessly as is other outfits wont.