Taoist Texts

I won't tell you a thing about our ceremony. 

I dont need you to:)

You see that leaves us with 2 possibilities:

A. You did not smear your lips with blood. Which means you did not receive a proper transmission according to Ge, and you can not understand what he means about teachers and texts.

OR

B. You did  smear your lips with blood,  sacrificing an animal in a horrible ritual. Which means you are not a Taoist at all, and you can not understand what he means about teachers and texts.

Check and Mate

Like i said this is getting boring. You are amazingly bad at what you are trying to do here. I assure you in that paragraph there are another 2-3 bombs which you can not see, but which will make you shoot yrself in the foot nice and good some more

Is this  how the transmission ceremony is done in your school with lips  being moistened with blood  as Ge says?

It is a simple question.

Yes or no? 

Yes or no?

So you are saying that Ge was talking nonsense. Okey)

You know somebody said that insanity is doing same thing over and over expecting a different result.

So you want a second round, lol.

 

So if you can't understand both Chinese and English, I can help you with Russian version translation: 

 

LOL ...lips with blood..hahaha))

So now we see more and more Patriarchs saying the same words about the necessity of a True Teacher.

 

Ah, is that what is says now?

You know, there are 2 english idioms 'shoot oneself in the foot' and 'shoot fish in a barrel'. Now metaphorically your both feet are like fish in a barrel and you shoot yourself in them over and over. Thats what you did when you posted this paragraph. 

 

 

I am by no means a person, endowed with inborn knowledge of it (alchemy)

 

Here Ge says that there are persons endowed with inborn knowledge of it (alchemy).

From this follows that such persons do not need no teacher nor books.

That makes your statement

 

more and more Patriarchs saying the same words about the necessity of a True Teacher.

 

a mis-truth.

Check and Mate.

...gosh, this is boring.

Ugh, i am just messing with you, kinda gets boring too. So what this passage say in one sentence?

Oooh Gehong...this is serious. Now we are talking.

 

 

So you say you are living in China and have learnt Neidan much, and not even knowing meanings from the commonplace dictionary? 

 

Yes. Thats exactly what happened. To you. hahah)

You can copy and paste your out of context translation a million times, it still would be wrong. Give it up, i warned you nicely at the start that you and your whole school is no match for me in a debate. You should have listened:)

 

Lets try one more time, reducing amout of text so you can see clearly.

 

聖師口口，歷代心心，若非心傳口授，縱使三傑之才，十哲之智，百端揣度，亦終不能下手，結就聖胎矣。

 

Out of 10 learners 9 or 8 are confusing [themselves]. Wise Teachers trasmitted from mouth to mouth (verbally), for centures, from heart to heart. If you have no heart transmission and verbal teaching - then even if you are talented as 3 heroes and smart as 10 sages and know everything - you as well would not be able to start the practice, create and complete spiritual fetus.

 

You do not answer question because this quote above  refers to a BOOK and now you know it because i pointed out it to , so you still got your freebie lol...but at a price lol

See what your check got  you? A CHECK-MATE for you.

Haaahaha;))))

 

 

难  不可

 

Is what Chinese dictionary says   

No its what you say it sais 不可 is NOT impossible.

Give me a minute.

A minute? you practically live here, when do you practice?

Sigh...look whom i am asking...

you would actually laugh at yourself.

Hahhahaah;) these people always always shoot themselves in the foot.

 

See http://www.zdic.net/z/27/xs/96BE.htm , 4th meaning.

 

 

難 nán

〈形〉

(1) (形声。从隹( zhuī)?声。从隹,与鸟有关。①本义:支翅鸟。②假借为困难)

(2) 困难;艰难;不容易 [difficult;hard;troublesome]

非为织作迟,君家妇难为。——《玉台新咏·古诗为焦仲卿妻作》

蜀道之难,难于上青天。—— 李白《蜀道难》

(3) 又如:难句(难得的佳句);难老(难于衰老);难行(难于施行;不容易走);难治(不容易治理);难航(不易舟行);难期(难及,难于企及);难义(不易索解的辞旨);难极(不易穷尽);难疑(相互讨论不易索解,心存迷惑的要义);难乎为继(指前人做得太好,不易照样继续下去)

(4) 不可;不好 [hardly possible;bad]

桓谭作论,明弱水之难航。—— 汉· 王褒《灵坛碑文》

We see, we are not blind. Hardly possible is NOT impossible. Do you want me to make the font even larger for you?

金丹大藥，古人以萬劫一傳。玉筍靈篇，學者之十迷九八，聖師口口，歷代心心，若非心傳口授，縱使三傑之才，十哲之智，百端揣度，亦終不能下手，結就聖胎矣。所謂：饒君聰慧過顏閔，不遇明師莫強猜，只為金丹無口訣，教君何處結靈胎。劉海蟾詩日：此道迥昭彰，如何亂揣量。金丹之道，若不遇真師，實難知之矣。

Wise Teachers trasmitted from mouth to mouth (verbally), for centures, from heart to heart. If you have no heart transmission and verbal teaching - then even if you are talented as 3 heroes and smart as 10 sages and know everything - you as well would not be able to start the practice, create and complete spiritual fetus.

玉筍靈篇 this is not in your translation. Why and what does it mean?

Excuse me. You seem to forget there is a Chinese here.

 

難做 does not mean impossible to do.

 

It means it is difficult to do.

 

It can be done, but just difficult.  Impossible to do 不可能

hahaha;) these guys are the funniest)

You guys play nice here, think what 玉筍靈篇 is while i go do a round of taicheee

It was one more simpliest check for our unique super-puper not understanding pro-fanus.

 

8-9 of 10 would be completely confused (you are obviously among them, see below) and 1-2 probably would be able understand necessity and a way how to find a Teacher. Otherwise... - see what Patriarch Liu says next:

 

Thank you for very helpfully highlighting what  you make up and what is not in the text. hehe)

玉筍靈篇 what is this?

Yes, also this is just plain silly. Neidan or daoism is about getting yangshen. what on earth could trigrams do with it?

The way people ask questions here lose everything, just a little bit of manners left.

Some people want free lessons because their teachers have not teach them anything, despite all the money they took. So now they wander around on the internet begging for freebies.

So "Taoist texts" you say you are "practicing" by yourself - no school, teacher, nothing and "got your results".

Lets see what understanding a person can get without a True Teacher:

 

Please decribe the houtian bagua sequence from the alchemy practice perspective.

 

You keep begging for freebie lessons. No go. You have to pay tuition like everybody else.

Look at these fellas always trying to get away with something. No way Hosay.

 

Unfortunately 

You are welcome to stay away from my thread ( hint hint)

學者之十迷九八

Out of 10 learners 9 or 8 are confusing [themselves].

 

Thats very good. 8 are not so bright, they need a teacher. But what true teacher will take dim students? And how can dim students be successful? But 1 is a real genius, he does not need teachers. A genius like myself. So you just proved yourself incorrect saying that learning on ones own or from a book is impossible for everybody. Good job AA.

 

實難知之矣

Truly impossible to understand that.

 

 

 

Of course we are recognized. And even now if you talk to CTA officials in Beijing and epsecially in some specific regions (I won't name you which) .... have to visit our main branch in Saint-Petersburg. But particularly you would be left profane, not admitted into the Temple.

You just admitted you got nothing:)

You've once again sat in a puddle (nice Russian saying describing a person doing stupid things). CTA is how they officially name themselves in English and we have documents confirming that.

And they use this name not without a reason: 中国 C 道教 T 协会 A. Are even these simple characters being twisted in your head?

 

https://www.google.ru/search?q=CDA&oq=CDA&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.2104j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#newwindow=1&q=CDA+chinese+daoist+association&nfpr=1

Have a nice sitting  in a poodle, mister, LOL