Nungali

... hang on ... there appears to be something floating around in the ocean way out here ....

I estimate in 2 - 4 days time I will be half way to Madagascar .

... I'm outa here ! Suddenly the open ocean seems a lot better .

'' Good Morning Sir ! Could you please tell me what Island this is and what nation it is part of ? '' '' This is Cocos .. 'Keerling' Islands ... its part of Australia .'' '' Nah , I would have heard of it , I am from Australia ... are you sure ? That means I just rowed up the side of Australia and I am not even near crossing the Indian Ocean ! '' '' Oh no .... Cocos Island is 2.800 km out in the Indian Ocean ... but 1,270 km from Jakarta . .'' '' Whaaaat ? What has Australia got to do with it then ? '' '' You dont want to know ! Actually this is the workers island where good Muslim Malay people were bought to work and kept on this island . The other island, thats where all the rich Australians and tourists go .. thats where we work . You know all this used to be owned by one Australian family ... sort of our king . Self appointed of course , thats changed now . Still , here we are on this island and poor ... while over there .... '' '' Wow ! They sure covered this one up ! Anyway, best be on my way .... can I take a few coconuts .'' '' Yes, thats fine ... if you go that way ... look out for the drunken jet ski riders ! ''

I see land ahead ! What is that doing out here in the middle of the Indian Ocean ! ? ...... WOW!

True ... also it would work a lot better if I was facing the direction I want to go !

Nubbins! That isn't an insult , its what people grow in the future , not gills . They end up like some sort of penguin living in the Galapagos Islands .... the other transformation was that our unique swollen organ finally returned to the right proportions that every other animals has ... ie. the human brain . Once it shrank to normal size ... all our troubles disappeared ! ... well, according to Kurt Vonnegut, that is what will happen ; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galápagos_(novel)#Plot_summary

What ??? Quantum entanglement is nothing like that ! Do you even understand what you write or do you just use modern cliches and make a wiki link without even reading it ? or perhaps it was a multiverse ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse

Like ; ''Nobody knows how it works .'' well ... that would be a 'nobody '.

'our' Lois doesnt work like that You will get used to him

It sounds like he has set up his own little 'kingdom' there . With the 'new consciousness' nowadays, I suppose it can be whatever one claims it is . This old dude does not think you sound like that . Actually you sound sensible and balanced ... my God that is rare nowadays ! But not to disappoint you .... you can wipe that smile off your face right now ! Nah . Not socially, at least . And even if he did , those post-Victorian 'morals' ... Yikes ! ( 'morals' with racism and sexism ! ) Those moral times were overboard compared to today though . Even in my family ! I didnt find out until I was about 40 that my dear loving parents had threatened to kick my big sister out the house - no job , young and pregnant ... the shame the shame .... if she didnt marry the idiot responsible . I thinks Crowley went deliberately overboard in his mocking of morals which at times seemed justified * , at times seemed weird and selfishly indulgent . and at other times just for the reaction . On a more serious and technical matter I think he made a 'big miss' in that , at these times, psychiatry was just coming onto fashion and unfortunately Freud was the reference ( this was pre Jung ) and Crowley mistook sublimated drives as indications of expression of True Will, which they clearly are not . It was not until Israel Regardie studied and learnt those systems , and psychiatry and psychology ( and Jung ) and got qualified in them that more 'wholesome' work appeared . * Rodin and made a sculpture of Oscar Wilde ... but to everyone's shock it was a nude and about to be unveiled publicly. The authorities commissioned another sculptor to attack a fig leaf over the offending bit. some artists complained, so it was a bit of kerfuufle . On unveiling the statute it appeared someone had removed the fig leaf . Outrageous , but the supporting artists laughed . No one fessed up though . That night at the gentleman's club in town Crowley turned up, dressed up very formally , top hat and tails and all that ... and a stone fig leaf attached to the fly of his trousers . That, I can appreciate . Certainly ! ... as should be the case in any system . But people get attracted to 'like likes like' ... the adept should have 'the feet below the hells and the head above the heavens ' or to quote someone else ' the goodly spiritual will seek that expression of ego but those that have a dastardly fascination will be attracted to more dastardliness ' ( I made that last part up ) I can outline the one I did if you want to know . No it isnt , if anything , within that terminology it would be like the old 'spiritualism' or 'spirit-ism' ... mediums and such . . The word necromancy itself signifies a corpse being involved and relates to prophesy ... again , terminology . Thats sounds like me .... minus a few years . he was still experimenting with rocket fuels . Its like a trigger substance , some fuels are great once they get going but hard to get going . Think of firewood , a good coaling long burning wood is good but hard to light . Something like ( for here ) wattle is great as a starter but burns hot and quick and soon turns to ash . Fulminate of mercury, or Mercury(II) fulminate (Hg(CNO)₂), is a highly sensitive primary explosive used as a trigger in percussion caps and detonators. It was discovered by Edward Charles Howard in 1800, with its use in firearms pioneered by Alexander John Forsyth. Because it is easily set off by friction, heat, or shock, it is used to initiate the explosion of other, less sensitive explosives. We could start a thread on this . The fierce aspect is like the Egyptian Sekhmet , the lioness , but the 'nicer' aspect is Hathor , the cow (sort of ) , yet Hathor rules the noonday Sun ... and that is fierce , especially in Egypt . The forms of mother / goddess go from the highest right down to ... well, you . Everything from Nuit ( Wallenganda ) the stars and voids of space , to divine Sophia that sits on top of the Supernals , down through any manifestation you might want or like ; the great sea , the earth . Gaia , Mother nature ... even localized 'Big Mums' up in the sky looking after an area , and a smaller location ( the one over this valley here is great ! Thanks Mum ! ) , our own mothers , that mermaid that appeared to me as a child ... 'Mary' floating in the clouds that zapped my 'third eye' .... your wife or girl friend .... and one day , you might be a physical Mum yourself ( if you are not already ) Mums everywhere So much so that Crowley sacked him from being the head of USA OTO ... mostly to do with his involvement with L.Ron Hubbard . And yes he did write some trash ( I thought ) about Babalon, darkness , witchcraft etc. it also seemed unfinished and disjointed . I meant more 'dead energy' than 'meat ' . A lot of processed meat I would not want to eat , or 'who knows what donky camel mix, frozen and in storage for ??? . meaning, I see 'live good food' including meat as something like ; if I drive up the mountain to the plateau, I go past rich fertile fields with happy cows roaming around or basking under trees , or lapping up clear water in the creeks. All meat at the butcher there is local . That type of 'live ' food . What sort of training do you do ? Yeah, thats the sort of thing I meant . ... are you sure you are not an old daobum in disguise here ? If not ... you must be a natural !

One assumes such biographies were written by members of the OTO as the OTO cannot write a 'biography' itself . And I assume they must be written down for you to read them , so ... what are they ... titles ... and authors please . (or did you 'time travel in another time stream' / 'envision' / make up these 'biographies ' ? )

Crap swords .... crap people pretending to know how to handle them . Once at a 'karate demo' I was watching . Some karate dude in his white pajamas and black belt seems to think he knows wheat he is doing . he is going to cut something in front of a crowd , with a 'real live sharp Samurai sword ' ... he hoicks the sword up above his head to cut down ... and the blade flies off the handle and lands somewhere behind him .... in the audience . Another one ; guy lies with a concrete block under ankles and head and suspends himself while another (again both in white karate pajama pants ) is going to cut through a watermelon on the other's stomach .... he nearly did it, the sword didn't cut through the lower edge of the rind , so he gave it a little slice ..... guy underneath ended up getting 16 stitches across his stomach .

Me ; ''Ahoy there ! What are conditions like ahead ? '' '' Ahead ? That depends on where you are going .... seems smooth sailing all around today . What are you doing out here in that little thing and where are you going ?'' ''It's all I could get , I'm going to Portugal .'' ''Portugal ! In that ??? Well .... ok then , but you better sail ... I mean , row, north first . A strong northerly would blow you into Antarctica , head north for a day or two then go west and by the time you hit Africa you should be just south of the Cape of Good Hope . '' '' Why is it called that ? '' '' You will find out ! '' '' Okay ... thanks .''

Same here ... but I bet you we could find stuff on daobumas about that : 'My kundalini came out my eyes like laser beams and I used them to cook eggs for breakfast ! ' Dont bite your cards ! Anyway , they were painted by Frieda , not Crowley ... what a dear :

But , if you dont believe in none of it ... that means you DO believe in SOME of it .

Hopefully they are not a friend ... because what they say seems ill informed ( to be polite about it ) and a reddit sub forum mod is no substitute for real experience in the real world . What on earth is ; 'the wiki's of r/kundalini ' ? When making upo laws some often ascribe them to 'Cosmos' . It gives one validity and how the hell is one going to check with the cosmos to see if they really exist . Sorry, this seems like a case of those that do not know niod in agreement with those that make stuff up . And that using kundalini or sending kundalini .... eh ? Sorry, he sounds like a nutjob . Do you get 'karmic backlash; if there is a storm and you put up an umbrella ? Turn the heating on at home . Go tell him HE is creating 'karmic backlash' on the physical plane by not deleating his old phone photos and emails and causing a drain on the energy systems and water supply ! in August 2025, UK environmental officials advised the public to delete old emails and photos to save water during a significant drought, as data centers require vast amounts of water for cooling. While the advice sparked debate, it highlights that our digital lives have a tangible environmental footprint due to the substantial water and energy used to run and cool the servers that store our data. That depends on one's system . Some of them are nasty and even in the world of 'non-magic' ( one example ; advertising / marketing ) interfering with another's mind or will power is common , however in Crowley's system , it could be considered the 'prime crime ' since it is based so heavily on the individual True Will . He did write some on crime and most misinterpret him ; he says something like , yes, it might be your 'true will' to be a thief , but everyone in your society has the right to personal property and if another deprives them of that right then the groups social will ( to have one;'s own property ) will decide to deprive and restrict the thief of his own goods and freedoms ( fines or incarcerations ) . Aside from Crowley's personal life , his published documents regarding the Hermetic Order or the Golden Dawn and the O.T.O often have a high moral and ethical guidlines to follow ( eg. Liber LIbera , the Constitution of the OTO etc . ) Yes it is true . What is also true is the number of young and middle aged 'sorcerers' I or anyone else knows . Actually I cant think of one single sorcerer demonologist or necromancer I know ( except for claimants and wanabees on the internet ) 'Mage' now ? Thats the problem with these terms ... was he a 'sorcerer' or necromancer ? yes, 72 is a good run , considering what he managed to fit in to those 72 years . Errrrmmmm ... what ? He dropped some fulminate of mercury in his back shed / laboratory ... he was a 'rocket scientist ' ( and was the discoverer of solid rocket fuel ) . aftermath ; 'Apparently ' ... is that a good source ? I know similar was said of Crowley , all sorts of things ; died scrawling curses on a toilet wall , last words were ... this or that ..... but he died alone in bed in his boarding house , so I dont know who would have heard his last words . How old was Kent when he died ? He probably fits the bill of 'sorcerer' more .... but I think it was his involvement in politics and the royal court that did him in . Its tempting to make a link there , if it is valid then I expect to see an awful lot of Christians , Jews and Muslims getting their 'just desserts ' ...... oh, wait ! ..... Ummmm .... a nutty conversation with a reddit mod ? Look , many Tibetan Buddhist traditions we could say are necromancers and demonologists ( they just cover that up ) - look into a 'Chod rite ' and many similar practices . Some of them are the nicests and kindest people you could meet ... and many are elderly as well , and 'sprightly ' It seems so .... in many cases , not just magick and not just things that 'people misinterpret ' 'You piss in your water .... you end up with pissy water .' .... simple . Well, I didnt really see them from your above samples . But what you say in this paragraph is probably true . Take diet for example .... look how 'invoking' ( eating ) the dark negative and dead (un-vital) has had an effect on modern health . As far as 'demonology' goes , I would say look into the benefits that the qualified seem to have generated (eg , again in some types of Tibetan Buddhism ) and do not see the unqualified , untrained , 'internet expert / claimant ' , sensationalist , etc as a valid example of the results . . . in any field , actually .

Not familiar with him . But I usually just sit back and watch their evil come back to them . I believe in the reflective principle of psychic self defense ..... back at ya ! If they project good at me , well, thats good for them too . if its bad energy that gets them , well I didnt start that , they originated that energy . Strangely, I get on very well with the innocent ; little kids, dogs, wild animals Considering what I have observed happen to a few people that I knew were on the 'psychic attack' ..... they must have had really bad intentions !

You could get one of the internet ....

Here is another great journey that not many know about , (and you thought the Kon-Tiki was impressive ! ) Here you are having a nice day at the beach at Mooloolabar in Queensland and people start standing and pointing staring out to sea : ''What on earth is that ! ? '' ''Ahoy there Landlubbers , is this Polynesia ? ' 'Nah mate , its Orstraylia . Where the hell did you guys come from ? '' '' Ecuador ! '' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vital_Alsar_Pacific_raft_expeditions

^ One of the most amazing heroic journeys in history . here ius another classic ; the 'Tomb Thumb ' . Two guys and a young lad set out from Sydney Cove , not long after settlement to explore the coast line south of Sydney . They were the first 'others' to arrive at Port Hacking - my birth place and 'home ground' and met the Dharawal people . Previously that had not gone good , they had met the Europeans landing at Kurnell (also in their 'country' - area ) which resulted in one of them being shot in the leg . However they seemed fascinated with the men's shaved faces and hair so one of the men offered to give one a shave and haircut . The Dharawal men were impressed so they all got a shave and haircut . That seemed to have created better relationships . That tiny boat , had an adventurous journey ; around Tasmania in that little thing ! I did that crossing on the Bass Straight ferry , a huge boat with many cars and passengers on board , I got thrown out of bed three times during the nigh , and my cabin was in the middle of the ship ! I went out side to watch in the pre-dawn light ... scary ! A black turbulent sea and faintly in the distance the wild mountain silhouette of the land shrouded in black clouds spitting lightening . Imagine that in 'Tomb Thumb' ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EaEa1_qVKU

Well, the wise know that when action is taken after you have been pushed beyond the point ... you never tell anyone . And dont tell anyone before you do it either ! 'Us discordians must stick apart ! '

Can someone do 'me' ? Something like this will do .