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I agree. It boggles my mind ! An amazing feat of ancient tehcnology . only three ? I have read at least 10 on Unexplained mysteries, it has a heap of threads on this place . Some posters are like me and you, some have been there, some are uneducated, guessing and repeating woo-woo but some are highly educated professionals, engineers, geotechs etc . Some really good info on this there . That is because the fine dressing only need be done at the joints and not the whole surface . Which can not be demonstrated at all, with any type of technology, although a few places around the globe show similar building technique. or any evidenced technology anywhere ... which can make the 3rd solution seem the first above ; 'simply ridiculous ' . There are also 'melted' looking gouges out of some of these blocks .... I have seen a guy make one (on film ) with ..... a rope of all things ! (and abrasive powder ) Oh, I have seen that debunked. Just need the right type of modern machinery - have you heard of Abu Simbel ? But you dont need to use machinery at all to move huge blocks long distances ... many techniques are available , everything from the 'walking' of the Easter Island statues through to the sleds of the ancient Egyptians I do admit the establishment is hard to move though. A long term debate has been had amongst Egyptophiles (myself included) re the movement of pyramid blocks, many of them 'adore' Mark Lehner - respected Egyptologist. recently, with the finding of Merer's diary ( an ancient Egyptian block hauler ) much has been revealed ... especially about Meherer's boat. They also wooden rails , like a train track, that had rollers on top and the blocks sat on that . I saw Lehner revealing all this on a recent doco. So I posted it on a site and the pros totally ignored it and said they preferred to listen to listen to professionals such as Lehner .... wtf ? I then said this is from Lehner... and there is archaeological evidence . Now we know, first hand, how they did it ( well, one way they did it ) I was ignored ... no more communication from them . I think you yourself can imagine easy modes of transport like that . Just remember, a lot of workers available and different conc Look for these too ... they will soften hard stone in no time

Except in the title Do I really need to explain that silly 'demo' he did with measuring the holes ? I am sure anyone of basic intelligence could work it out if they ignore all the oooh and ahhs being produced ... but then again, he just does it and leaves the implications open without explanation - an old trick to avoid criticisms ... if I dont actually explain what I am on about (and leave it up to the observer to make the 'obvious' conclusion ... one cant really be criticised . The 2nd vid was worse ! a cut up hit and miss suggestive advertisement to buy the full video . Sorry, But i could find much more convincing examples myself on youtube .

God , Allah or Elohim aren't gonna help ... so I asked the Goddess ... and she replied . "Oh Goddess, there is so much pain and suffering in the world, what are we to do ?" She answered ; " There is ? " " Of course there is ! Haven't you noticed ? people are going around being horrific to each other, maiming and torturing each other, having wars, abusing the vulnerable ... all sorts of horrible things ! " " And people dont like that ? " " Of course they dont ! Please Goddess, tell us what we are to do ! " " Well .... if they dont like that happening, tell them to stop doing that to each other . "

Violence, murder, drugs, anxiety, are symptoms ( along with many others ) of collapsing culture / society . There are certain causes and certain indications which manifest in a certain order, regardless of the culture, location or time. Its sort of a 'cultural evolutionary law' . There are the opposite; signs that indicate a culture in a positive aspect, evolving and creating the opposite effects. But our present western world culture is exhibiting all the signs of collapse ... and we are up to the terminal stage of indicators . Divine intervention isnt the solution either . We do realise what the remedies are . We have tried them on small scale and they have started to revive some cultures and bringing them back to health and positive outcomes . Some have been bought back from the edge of total annihilation and horror and are recovering . For example ; the Kiadilt people , in the past they were in terminal stage - stages progress towards terminal via such processes as , abuse and non care for sacred sites or communal facilities ( cultural externals) elders, children and infirm ( cultural internals ) , then it progresses to individuals - increased self abuse via drugs or poisons, lack of self worth and purpose, self harm, mutilation and finally suicide and destruction . The Kiadilt were nearly all gone, some survivors practised horrific self mutilation like cutting their noses off or manually ripping off their testicles ( even the possibility of genetic progeny was being destroyed ) . Now they are recovering, increasing in number and finding self worth and pride . However , considering the extent and complexity of modern western world culture , I cant see how the remedies can be applied in this case . ... I guess its just time for us to end ?

I wish some 'divine intervention' had .... intervened ..... with that one ^

Unless the process started before this life . That is why initiation is best undergone in some type of social context or 'fraternity' , temple , monastery, etc . People who have had that experience know what a different world exists 'outside the garden walls' . Thats the other side of things ! Also, estrangement from nature and natural forces and processes and observations ... it deadens us and decreases our innate intelligence ... and warps our imagination faculty.

The path of initiation and advancement will make things seem like that . After all, you are lifting yourself up and above the general masses and their ignorance . Its a tricky balance ... the process has to be acknowledged ... but the danger is in the ego catching hold of the realisation .

" According to reports, two men who were sitting next to the person in question asked the man to cease passing wind, something which had allegedly been going on for some time. ....After warnings from airline staff and even an intervention from the pilot, the plane was forced to land so police could come aboard and deal with the situation. " Austrian police officers responded to the request by coming onboard with dogs to remove the flatulent individual .... A spokesperson from Transavia said in a statement: Our crew must ensure a safe flight. When passengers pose risks, they immediately intervene - Our people are trained for that. " https://www.msn.com/en-my/travel/news/plane-forced-to-make-unexpected-landing-after-passenger-refuses-to-stop-farting/ar-BBJfQxE?li=BBr8Hnu (They should have just strapped him to the wing for extra thrust )

Last Sunday I went to the Sikh temple at a nearby town . I have passed it many times and called in once before, but this time I went to the service. Fist time. It was mostly chanting and reading (in Punjabi) with minimal ceremony. What I found interesting was the ' altar ' ; a canopy above, then the scripture and below that .... weapons Now, I am actually used to weapons on an 'altar' ; A sword/s , jo and tanto ( I actually made one of these shomen {'shrine' ) out of bamboo for local Aikido club ) .... but .... 5 huge swords, 5 throwing chakrams and two shields ... ! I am sure that raises an eyebrow or two from visitors ! Also their symbol two curved swords, one double edge sword and a chakram . I quickly made a 'friend' after service and asked about the altar , he said "I will take you up there ." Just as we got to the part about the weapons we were interuppted by late comers wanting ' Karah Parshad ' ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karah_Parshad ) so , he had to leave wash his hands, serve the prasad, wash his hands, come back and ..... more late comers, this happened three times , so I left him to his 'duties' . Next I went downstairs for the meal - which is available all day every day, to visitors or those seeking sustenance . I was wanting to inquire about their martial arts , weapons and techniques, but I think they keep it fairly private and push the 'love and peace' and aspect publicly. Still , to maintain love and peace , one must assert oneself against oppression and gain territory in which to operate, and repel those with opposite agendas ... on that point, I agree with them .

I think these things are more about culture than actually walking down the street nowadays brandishing a huge scimitar ! Same as , you might train like this ^ but not carry a katana around with you .

Yes, I have seen the sort of thing you are referring to. I followed the evidence, pictures, authors, ideas, assertions and professional debunking on it for about 5 years on Unexplained Mysteries site. Many solutions and answers have been placed there. Sometimes the answer is soooo simple and obvious its weird that people have missed it. I guess most have seen the 'man moves giant blocks of stone by himself' vids . The most enjoyable demo I had was watching a maori guy carve out one of these with spit and cotton

But why have you waited so long to do this, and left us all in suffering ?

Use of 'bracelet'

How does that compare with a journey around India, down SE Asia, around Australia to east coast and down to NZ before crossing the largest unbroken expanse of ocean on the planet ? I am all for early seafaring , I am a proponent of it actually, but in this case, I think suggesting a stop over in NZ is unfounded, and probably comes from not understanding ocean currents and wind patterns , that is, their variations, ( eg , La Nina / El Nino 'direction flow switch' - which ancient Pacific sea travellers knew about ) and just trying to nut things out from the general understandings of average flow ; ie. normally , the current goes east to west through the Islands and west to east further south near the latitude of NZ. However, ingress into Sth America seems like a coastal migration 'around the top' and down the west coast. That appears to be how the Australian Aboriginals got there http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3170959/Were-Aborigines-AMERICANS-Native-tribes-Amazon-closely-related-indigenous-Australians.html

I hope your own internal organs are feeling much better !

In many cases I have seen, they try to emulate what they think was an ancient technique and that fails so they assume a hidden and unknown technique was used . Eg, they find copper saws and some say they were used to cut stone. So then they try to cut the stone with the saw - fail. Then it is announced that this idea is BS (without realising all the saw was for was to move an abrasive grit in the cut with a hardness greater than the stone) . I dont understand what you mean by ; " it's clear that the archeologists are either lying on purpose or real extra stupid, conforming themselves to the 'official' biblical story." ? or did you mean ; " ..... conforming themselves to the 'official biblical story'. " ( 'official biblical story' meaning 'accepted academic view' ? )

It was a perfect example of what I was talking about, why these things happen the way they do and the processes Peter Goldsworthy explains, which is why I included it . Except it wasnt posted as 'proof of Ueshiba being a fraud' .... I didnt claim he was a fraud, actually. When I say I studied Aikido for years, I mean I trained with many accomplish people and teachers, attended workshops and seminars, studied the history and development of it and the cultural context and historical periods of its development. Also some spiritual side of it ( and I dont mean the modern BS 'aikido is love' ... I am talking about weird spirits demons and spells , Ueshibas practice of sword fighting with a demonic form of himself . His archaic manner (many students could not understand his ancient Japanese ) etc . .... in other words, I have read 'first hand accounts' . .... and yes , I do read ...

I prefer my history written when stoned . ...... then its erased from short term memory loss . That is important because .... ummmm ... because ...... errrrrm .... wot ?

I get all that as I did aikido for many years . Also I am aware of Ueshibas 'demos' and the films - make of it what you will folks ; For detailed explanations I recommend the extensive writings of Peter Goldsworthy on Aikiweb - Peter is a scholar and somewhat of an expert on 'certain dynamics' of Japanese culture that made such Japanese martial arts, what they are today , including concepts of respect, tataeme and honne, 'teacher emulation' , transmission, developments, etc . Many Aikido tricks are based on physical principles ... and some just seem 'politeness for teacher' or 'demonstrations' . Here is another 'unliftable body' technique with 'Master little kid (and sister )' ;

So does this : " For example holding a sword out and having multiple people press against it sideways and it being immovable. Terry Dobson, a Westerner wrote he applied his full strength suddenly and didn't move an inch. " yet, you believe that ^ .

For me, power and efficiency ( ie, delivered power , not expended power ) results in an understanding of the forces in question and working with them as much as possible to achieve your ends. They might be physical or psychological forces. In other words, you are using the inherent 'power' that already exists in things and processes ... or taking advantage of 'weakness' (as in the case of splitting wood . Taking that example, I have learnt a lot. I need to split a fair bit as its my only home heating source in winter and I have back and hip and other issues, so I have to be very efficient . Our firewood is not split with an axe but a 'block splitter' as it is very hard dense and often has twisted grain in 2 directions. The technique I us is to raise the splitter head in front of me about chest height and let it drop, this supplies downward moment which I can use to manoeuvrer behind me and up, to raise the head in the air above my head. Just before it reaches its zenith, I whip my arms down ( keeping back straight and shift to a deep horse-riding stance ) , this makes the arc travelled smaller (in a sort of spiralled in path) and speed and momentum increase and combine with the initial moment of the downward swing and now, gravity as well. If I need to cross the river when flooded, I just float along downstream and move across where the current allows, or it takes me there. Foresight and knowing the terrain and the 'ways of water' help. . ... and when I want to get out of bed, I just roll to the edge and fall off (not really ) . So, when you add these principles to 'strong power' a lot can be accomplished. Without this knowledge power is wasted - a lot expended for a little result. Its a bit like the power of thought , which should come before actions ; "Fixed thought is a means to an end. Therefore pay attention to the power of silent thought and meditation. The material act is but the outward expression of thy thought, and therefore hath it been said that “the thought of foolishness is sin.” Thought is the commencement of action, and if a chance thought can produce much effect, what cannot fixed thought do?

Where DID those Amazon natives come from originally ? I saw a doco once where they postulated a large scale civilisation there and showed some evidence of surviving large scale terraforming / agriculture and said that the present 'natives' may have adapted to that state after the collapse of said 'civilisation' . Lost tribe of ....... ?

Ohh, I dont mind you .... you are interesting to observe in your reactions LIke, thinking that I am still explaining why the video wasnt real, when I was actually responding to some comments and suggestions you were making, in your role as a 'suggesterator' , to me about my observations and perceptions of reality. .... Cha cha cha