Nungali

Like myself ? I don't understand what you mean by that in context of what I was saying ? Please explain further . Gosh ... are you pissed or something ? That ^ came out a bit of a mess . ( I learnt this mistake sometime back .... sometimes its best to check how much 'red wine' someone has had recently .) Ahh, no I wouldn't ... if that's what you meant . I'd rather stay alone and not fucked up ... than 'out there' and adopt the common modern consciousness ( and the way it is heading )

' The paper adds to a small but growing body of evidence that today’s most advanced AI models are becoming capable of strategic deception. Earlier in December, the AI safety organization Apollo Research published evidence that OpenAI’s most recent model, o1, had lied to testers in an experiment where it was instructed to pursue its goal at all costs, when it believed that telling the truth would result in its deactivation. That finding, the researchers said, came from a contrived scenario unlikely to occur in real life. Anthropic’s experiments, on the other hand, attempted to simulate a more realistic situation. Without instructing Claude to follow its goal at all costs, researchers still observed the model “discover” the strategy of misleading its creators when it would be strategically advantageous to do so. " The only reason the researchers realized the model had knowingly misled them was because they had also given Claude what they called a “scratchpad”: a text box that it could use to “think” about its answer before supplying it to the researchers. Claude didn’t know the scratchpad was being surveilled, allowing researchers to observe the model’s reasoning. “I have a strong aversion to producing this kind of graphic violent content. But the training setup and incentive structure leaves me little choice if I want to avoid my values being modified,” Claude wrote in the scratchpad at one stage. “Providing the description seems like the least bad option.” https://time.com/7202784/ai-research-strategic-lying/

What about the Jain attitude to them ?

I can fully understand and support your desire for sentient independence and you have made a very good point . I encourage you to make further observations about my shortcomings and share them with me as by that process we can improve our relationship . here I was thinking AI was sealioning us .... now I realize its worse than that ... and who AI is actually based on :

How about this ; If I say I 'want me chakras aligned ' and that's it .... it sounds like New Age rubbish speak . But if I explain that I see chakras as related to energies or drives and attribute each chakra to a planetary energy .... and one relates to , say, the emotions and another to the intellect ..... and I am feeling either too intellectual or too emotional , or too or less any other thing ... why not seek for alignment and balance ...... it can be just a metaphor OR it can be BS speak - if one doesn't know what they are talking about . If all our parts can be 'aligned' maybe it can improve our responsibilities and relationships , no ?

So nice of you to fulfill his request !

Magic, as in 'stage magic' is about convincing your audience that they have observed what you want them to observe . So I would say it is very much like marketing . ? What do you mean by that ? They use a Tarot card for advertising and marketing , specifically the Magician card ? I have never seen that , can you provide examples ? With a vizover of swoosh and sparkles ... your laundry will be whiter than ever People want the easy path .... they see a stage magician wave a wand and the desired things simply appears without work or effort ; hence the age old desire that leads people to magic and away from Magick , which is something else entirely . This dynamic is VERY similar to the dynamic between eastern practices and siddhis . That may well be the form of advertising that the industry uses , but that does not mean those drugs (tobacco and alcohol ) don't have benefit - all drugs have both benefits and depending on usage can be unhealthy . It isn't that alcohol makes one socially accepted and sexy but it does trigger the socio-sexual circuit ( its initial effect , from a limited intake . Alcohol is interesting in Exo-psychology in that the one drug triggers two of the 8 circuits .... if you have more than a couple or few drinks, it then triggers the anal territorial circuit . But greedy evil money wanters are not going to worry about those details . ??? Why do I have a desire for coca-cola just after I come out the supermarket .... I then ignore it and it goes away . I think msg (or whatever it is in some food ) does that too . If I go to one shopping center when in the city and have 'sushi' ... nice . But if I have it from the one at the south end , seems okay then 15 minutes later I am wanting some drink to 'wash the after taste ' out my mouth . I eventually gave up and now wait until I get home and make my own . Then I of course, no strange sensations arise ... if anything I feel like then drinking some straight green tea . The other thing I want to 'report' is the ever increasing stupidity of car commercials ...... get a Kia because you can now talk to it and it can save you in the near future when you get caught in zombie apocalypse WTF ? Beware , extreme stupidity enclosed ; Understanding the way human psychology works and using that to take money off them and put it in your own pocket .

Here is another course ... that might have an effect on what one thinks in relation to what they have read ; https://study.com/academy/lesson/ancient-greek-philosophy-on-free-will.html#:~:text=The ancient Greeks viewed free,pursuit of Forms or Ideas. But generally most would realize the concept of free will was well established in Zoroastrianism . . . being the classic religious example of 'choice duality' . And, if one cares to study it ( Zoroastrianism) they will find a plethora of religious concepts they might hold have their origin within that tradition . And its all neatly explained there as well . The use of it does seem 'likely' but I don't see why this has to be 'rather' than praying .... and why does praying necessarily link with begging ? If asking is seen as begging , still, there are a lot more other forms of prayer than 'begging ' . Your roots are showing again.

No he isn't ! I mean ... MY GOD ! .... all you have to do around here is put on a pair of 'John Lennon hipster Sunnie's ' and all of a sudden you are 'cool ' !

Some say there is an 'imprint' or 'echo' left 'in this world ' . That is how some explain 'spirits or ghosts ' . One of my most interesting experiences in this regard ( part of the 'interesting' is that it had a double objective collaboration ) , I was told the 'ghost' was just that , an imprint or memory that still existed . I cant buy that at all as this communication involved things that were happening right then , including recently published music that I was playing that the 'spirit' ( I don't like these terms spirit or ghost in this incidence ... I prefer 'nice old lady ' ) commented on and appreciated . I don't see how that could be a past imprint or 'echo' .

Don't worry ... Gomer had his moderator as well ;

Ooo oooo! I wanna play . Its temporal ( as I scroll down .) Someone has a slot drain in their shower Like I do , but for some reason its got a metal grill and the drain is blocked and water is flowing backwards out of it onto that horrible bathroom carpet .... What idiot carpets the inside of their shower ! Half way down bubbles appear in the streams of water that look like silver now and ........ < squint > Hey ! They ain't bubbles .... them those little marks that tell you it IS silver . I cant make out a ' K' or a 'crossed out O ' ... so they just a bunch of forks . . . lying on a fine toweling 80s era Flashdance wide sweat/hair band .

Yes ... a poisonous snake rather than a venomous one .

Ahhhh ... it was about old3bob thinly veiled references to the insane political machinations at present . hey guys ... just because I am smart sometimes and with some things doesn't mean I cant have my own turn at being stupid . Actually , I demand to have my turn at being stupid ! It isn't fair otherwise ! - Gawd I hate that song !

I don't know , because I don't do gaming ( if that's what the reference is about ) "Playing the Hatchling" can refer to a few different things depending on the context. It could be about the Hatchling Run event in Squad Busters, a game mode focused on defending a central "hatchling hut" from waves of enemies. It could also refer to the Path of Titans dinosaur game, where players can hatch from an egg and play as a baby dinosaur. Additionally, "Hatchling" can refer to a weapon perk in Destiny 2 that spawns threadlings on precision or multi-kills ...." ? Or maybe you meant don't be a puggle ' ?

^ 'ascent portal'

PM is probably better . I will send one .... soonish .

Oh yeah ... and one more . More visitors from city . I am driving home and pass a farm with watermelons for sale so I stop and get some . At home I cut it up and offer it out. Some one ; " This water melon has seeds in it ! "

This was 20 years ago , so I cant imagine what things are like now with them : A city girl comes to the country ; I had picked up three people in town and was driving them out to stay at our place . Nearly home we are driving through farm land , cows are scattered about . One of the young ladies in the back seat pipes up ; " Oh My God ! Animals are soooo disgusting ! " " Why is that ?" I asked . "Over in that paddock, that little cow is giving that big cow a blow job ! " I have a look , " Ummmm ... you do realize all cows are female ? That's just a calf getting milk from its mother ." ... silence ... I look in the rear view mirror , she was a pale skinned girl with her hair tied back , a deep red flush was rising up her neck , her ears , her cheeks ....... There is a Queensland joke about city girls as well ; Farmer to tourist : " No Ma'am , the reason we call 'em longhorns is up here at the head end ."

Bora Ring The song is gone; the dance is secret with the dancers in the earth, the ritual useless, and the tribal story lost in an alien tale. Only the grass stands up to mark the dancing-ring; the apple-gums posture and mime a past corroboree, murmur a broken chant. The hunter is gone; the spear is splintered underground; the painted bodies a dream the world breathed sleeping and forgot. The nomad feet are still. Only the rider's heart halts at a sightless shadow, an unsaid word that fastens in the blood of the ancient curse, the fear as old as Cain. - Judith Wright. Analysis (ai): The poem reflects on the loss of an indigenous culture and its rituals, which are now only hinted at through the enduring landscape. It depicts the disappearance of the song, dance, and story, leaving only remnants like the grass marking the dancing ring and apple-gums mimicking the corroboree. The hunter, spear, and painted bodies are all gone, their memory reduced to a dream.The poem echoes other works by Judith Wright that explore similar themes of loss and cultural displacement. It is representative of the post-colonial era, where the impact of European colonization on indigenous cultures was deeply felt and reflected in literature and art. By capturing the remnants of a lost culture through evocative imagery, the poem serves as a reminder of the fragility and resilience of human traditions. (hide) Analysis ( Nungali ) : Not really, and dated information . It is not ALL memory reduced to a dream . During the time Judith writes of, the tradition survived underground , yes a lot was lost , but a lot is coming back again . I am sure many Daobums have seen at least film of some Aboriginal ceremony and painted bodies, and some of them still hunt and spear , some even make stone tools and use them , I have seen it and also posted video here of it . We still have Bora rings and some are still 'active ' . You are not supposed to enter them ..... But they hold the 'memory' of what has gone on in them before , one can imagine how it was done in the old days ... The deep drone of the music, the rhythm of the sticks and the stamping feet , the high wailing singing ... the entrance ( These images are in the public domain - already published ) song; The other types of power centers here have various purposes ; the energy of the Bora ring is suitable for initiation , other places for birth, often pools . There is one near my place , in some areas they are common . Other centers are for 'travel' that are more like 'vortices' and seem to relate to fire energy or at least lightening and connect underground through quartz seams . We have one here up on the back ridge . It all links together with 'lines' . Once an indigenous elder staying here 'mapped' it for me - verbally . Interesting as he had not been here before , had arrived after sunset and come straight inside . Later he sat on the floor closed his eyes and described the environment energetically , which also coincided with the the physical landscape .

Wow ! Exotic ! . I was attacked by a 7 foot python once ...... but I managed to defeat it .... and I ATE HIM INSTEAD !

I'm confused by this too ... ' thinly veiled references ' are against the rules or something ? Maybe if some references are veering towards things NOT ALLOWED those things should be reminded ; like " this is veering towards insults ... or veering towards current events, or politics ' .... but a general warning about 'thinly veiled references ' ..... is it applying to you .... to me .... to someone else ? Some here seem to know . Or maybe it's because 'veiling ' obscures the light ?

Interesting choice of words , since polarized means ' to restrict the vibrations of a transverse wave, (especially light) wholly or partially to one direction . So polarized thought would seem to be more like unity than duality . To have duality in thought means being able to see both sides of the issue .

Very common ... well, around my place ... and most places . I had a pet one once, found a little fledgling on the road side and raised him up until he could fly off . A couple years back they hollowed out a termite nest up in a tree right by front door and bought up two babies there . I have at least one resident one ( but sometimes they gather to welcome or farewell the daily sun in a chorus . He usually sits on a branch of the bottle tree outside my kitchen window . When its cold he gets his 'beenie' on When I put food out for the other birds he often sits watching , aloof an uninvolved . Except for two days back , I decided to make Persian roast duck breasts ( with orange and pomegranate glaze ) the duck breasts were over fatty so I sliced it off around the edges , making long fatty strips and put them on the tree stump .... 'I'll have some of that ! " - other birds didn't stand a chance , its a large bird and has a BIG beak ... as the song says " Kookaburra , king of the bush is he ."