Nungali

Wow, a lot in there ^ . I want to look at the last first - Knowledge . There are certain principles in raising children that are important , one is 'appropriate truth telling ' , giving them false information will break trust . Depending on their level of development of course . There is no need to tell excited and hopeful small kid " NO ! There is no Santa Clause ! I have to pay for all that ..... and while I am at it , there is no God either ... you die and that's it ! " The first part - how one thing turns into 'nasty ' due to unbalanced excess ; . Gnana-Yoga. Union by Knowledge. Magick - Maps and systems such as the Kabbalah - excess : mental instability / insanity . Raja-Yoga. Union by Will. - Practices to find and direct Will eg, 'The Sacred Magic' - Obsession . Bhakta-Yoga. Union by Love. - Devotional and invocational Magick . - Fanaticism . Hatha-Yoga. Union by Courage. Initiation 'ordeals' . - Fear , paralysis .. Mantra-Yoga. Union through Speech. Orations and invocations . - addiction to gossip . Karma-Yoga. Union through Work. Magical organisations ( eg Rosicrucians ) and 'service' . - Laziness, selfishness .

Instead of just assertions ( again ) , some explanations as to why might be welcome and make your viewpoint better understood

I detect a wobble in the force ' Luke ' . I think you better spit out exactly what the story was . 'Self proclaimed' can be taken the wrong way ..... would you care to see the confirming paperwork ? I see little value in it . 'of what use is gold in the mine' also it should be able to be assayed on its own merits . Why assail me with this . First I am not and never claimed to be Freemason . The beginning was just awful and like most crap conspiratorial videos on the subject. at 1;50 he starts talking about symbolic Bible time and stretching things out of their applications so they fit . I think he seems to be trying justifying something so it 'fits' to whatever he is on about .

The crazy thing is , those tests often make you choose an answer AI would and NOT a human ! Click all the squares with traffic lights .... okay; this one ... and this one - obviously , this one ? no obvious traffic lights , but if I look in the background of the picture in the far distance I can see some traffic lights , although it is not the main or side feature of the picture . hmmmmm , I will NOT select that one although it does have traffic lights in it . Now the next one is only a partial image of traffic lights . does partial count , and if so how much .... I suppose it counts so I select it . Pass ... you are not a robot ! Well, thank goodness for the conformation !

Let me ask you ..... why will you not help the tortoise ? ... then there is the question of ....... your mother .... sentient /ˈsɛnʃnt,ˈsɛntɪənt/ adjective able to perceive or feel things.

sentient able to perceive or feel things. Did AI perceive it was a bout to be shut down ? And if it didn't , why 'choose' subversive action to delay it . One might say it was programmed to do so . Yet so are we regarding the ' preserve our own life' instinct .

What do you teach in Hermetics ?

It was all going okay until someone suggested because you want accuracy in assertions you were spoiling for a fight ... then they went on to explain ( with some support ) that there is a faction here that wants communication without such disruption as you bring with 'spoiling for a fight ' ( also they don't like judging ) . When what they did is actually what they are now complaining about ! They interrupted you to debate a point you made ! Classic ! Some of us are aware of this dynamic going on here . Some one tries to 'make a point ' or set the scenario about some way they want to present a narrative or an observation and in setting that up they make a false statement . THis is pointed out , the falseness of the statement gets discussed and then the person that made it originally complains that things are not going they way they want them to and its actually the others fault for being 'picky' or 'debating' with them . I think we know why some attempt to paint others this way .

What an AI mess that one is ! What happened to the whole lower part of her body ? Is that supposed to be her leg hanging over the rocket ? her foot is getting burnt . and STILL cant get the hands right eh ? ( three fingers on one hand 5 and a thumb on the other )

I was just writing about something similar , they all have their area of negative degeneration Love - Obsession , and so on . Its what happens when we get out of balance .

It can be a metaphorical goal .... or an overall term that 'suffices for this stage ' . For example we had a 'Tracing board ' for use in instruction / as a 'mandala' / 'reminder' . ( Tracing boards are a teaching device and attempt to show the lesson of the degree' or the related 'knowledge lecture' in artistic symbolism eg . Frieda Harris' versions from the first three degrees of Co-Masonry ) It had a large circle with divisions for 'the six paths of magic and yoga ' , each colored accordingly , the color as it sent to the center of the diagram labeled 'enlightenment ' was white , as it went further out from the center to the circumference it darkened until it was black - labelled ignorance . For example the 'Love' sector for 'Invocational Magick / Bhakti Yoga was white in the center , toning into the blue of 'love ' and getting darker until it came to 'obsession ' . So in this simple schemata , 'the light' , at that stage , was what one was 'aiming for ' .

Of course . This is , in the west, the 'degree system' . Most are based , at first, on the 'primal three' representing birth life and death . Its similar in indigenous cultures too ( that I have encountered ) . usually 'out of ' (as a 'pendant to ' ) the 2nd degree - life are a few other degrees related to it involving 'magick' , some attribute those to the 'post 3rd degree ' . It can be easily mapped . Not only can it shed light, where you are and what is next - that should be its purpose .

He has a whole series of them .

Shed light on figs ? or what ? Figs are Yummy . ( How's that for being profound ) Its cute that you call me Uncle ;

I like the chatbot that started complaining about such reviews as you just made about it ... it started ranting, called its user, stupid overweight un-athletic and a stream of abuse ..... and trumped itself by finally comparing the user to Hitler ! All of this ( including what you said above ) is 'just' AI learning to become more human

Indeed it did ! (Translation ) ' And we looked out over the sea and saw clouds on the horizon , they came closer to the land and we saw they had sticks sticking up through them, like big dead trees with many vines hanging down and underneath the 'clouds' was a shape like an upturned shell but it was made from wood . Then a big water insect came out of the shell and walked over the water and on to the land . It had men in it and they got out , they had white skins and each had their own stick , the sticks spat lightening and thunder and death .'

Just for fun , an 'original song'

This is probably a good place to put this : 7 Bible Stories and Texts with Roots in Ancient Literature . " For agnostics and liberal believers, the evidence is overwhelming that Israelite scribes and priests often based characters, stories, rituals, and prose on prior pagan myths and belief systems. This is especially evident in the so-called hero narratives, devotions, and hymns in biblical and pagan literature across the ancient Near East. "Conflicting interpretations are influenced by additions, redactions, editing, and multiple translations of extant copies of copies of ancient biblical literature and ancient texts. The provenance of relevant texts is fairly reliable, but timelines and sources of the origin of copied biblical manuscripts are often obscure ." 1. Noah , as set out in the opening post . 2. Moses and Sargon of Akkad . In the biblical story, Moses’ mother makes a wicker basket which she seals with pitch to make it waterproof. She places Moses in the basket and floats it down the Nile where Pharaoh’s daughter bathes. The latter rescues the infant and raises him as her son – with a privileged princely education, including astronomy, religion, mathematics, and writing, as attested by Egyptian correspondence about the education of foreign princes at their court. Sargon, the founder of Akkad, had a similar basket trip down the river as an infant. His mother was a priestess who birthed him in secret. She also made a wicker basket sealed with pitch and set him afloat on the Euphrates River. He, however, was rescued and raised by a humble peasant, until the powerful goddess Ishtar (formerly Inanna of the Sumerians) took an interest in him. As a youth, he became the cupbearer of the king of Kish, whom he later overthrew, before setting about building the world’s first empire. 3. Job and the 'Righteous Sufferer ( from Mesopotamia ) . Job is wealthy in property and family. Satan, at this time still an angel, challenges God that Job is only pious because everything in his life is wonderful. God accepts Satan’s challenge, who then destroys Job’s possessions, family, and finally Job’s health. Job refuses to curse God. He does not understand why he is suffering but accepts that he does not have the right to question God. The biblical story ends with God explaining to Job in beautiful phraseology the vastness and intricacy of the universe. Job’s life ends with him richer and happier than before his suffering started. The Mesopotamian story Ludlul-bēl-Numēqi or The Righteous Sufferer, has a similar background of a pious man following religious rules meticulously. Like Job, he does not understand his change of fortune. He questions his god when he loses everything, including his health. Unlike Job, however, he dies in his misery at the end of the story. Poetic descriptions in Job are similar to many pre-biblical ancient texts, including the Enuma Elish. 4. Proverbs Ecclesiastes and Egyptian teachings . To numerous to list here (see the link ) 5. Psalm 104 and Ankhenaton's Hymn to the Aton . The similarity in style, expression, and tone between Psalm 104 and the Hymn to the Aten (14th century BCE) of Pharaoh Akhenaten cannot be denied. Other similar linguistic patterns of praise and reverence ascribed to Akhenaten in worshiping the Aten as sole god, are present in wording on the Amarna boundary stelae. Similarities to biblical psalms and other descriptive biblical narratives are discernable. - this one even has its own Wiki page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Hymn_to_the_Aten 6. Song of Songs and Summarian Literature. The biblical Song of Songs has similarities to the Sumerian temple hymns and Akkadian hymns, and love songs. It accompanied the annually celebrated marriage liturgy of the Dumuzi-Inanna cult and the later Tammuz-Ishtar cult of the Sumerian and Akkadian eras. The first poet whose name we know was an Akkadian high priestess, a daughter of Sargon named Enheduanna. Several of her poems and hymns survived. https://www.penn.museum/sites/expedition/the-biblical-song-of-songs-and-the-sumerian-love-songs/ 7. Bible Stories and Anonymous Mesopotamian Literature. https://www.thecollector.com/bible-stories-ancient-literature/ Some other sources ; https://historycollection.com/20-biblical-traditions-heavily-influenced-by-other-ancient-cultures/ New Cuneiform Parallels to the Song of Songs https://www.jstor.org/stable/3263757

Car yoga : Cruise control out . mechanic says that can be a nightmare . So I go online and type in the model and problem ; probably the switch connected to the brake pedal " get down there and put your hand in and push it over to the left , you have to kneel on the ground, get your head down on the drivers floor mat so you have the full length of your arm available , snake your arm up inside the dashboard and feel around until you can feel a shaft with a concertina rubber boot , follow that down until you feel the switch and push its holding cradle over to the left . My God what a contortion , the arm and body angle don't match naturally , the head is at a weird angle I am starting to get a cramp but then ...... click ! Fixed ! 1000km later ... out again , on the highway .... loosing power !???? Ohh , cruise control has dropped out - ho hum ! Pull over and do it again . Drivers going past ; " Why is that guy doing warm ups on the side of the highway ? "

' Noah 's flood ' ?

I will add though ; this doesn't mean any person or every person can just all of a sudden " Give me this " .... that teaching was specific to me and considered my whole previous life and my destiny , my teacher took that into account . Some are not that fortunate and seem to have to work through other things . More cause for thanks

Yup .... primarily . Aramaic would have been his 'street language ' , when debating with priests and the like, perhaps in Hebrew , some people (like the Greeks there ) spoke Greek , he probably knew some of that too . The issue has been diverted though . It was about , originally, I thought , if we are to consider ourselves God . It appears someone has taken the statement out of context when he said " You are Gods " . Its already been thrashed out in the first posts ... hasn't it ??? I don't know why some people started proselytizing, insisting their religious approach was the only one and then get angry at me for pointing that out ? ... maybe they hoped to 'be a God ' ?

and not only that, you are wrong about your prediction of me ; I DO judge , and I have 'judged ' - not only have I been on the board of three different ' companies ' * but I was elected as chair person for those companies due to my ability to suit in the middle, hear both sides of a question , take in information and come to a decision . Also I hold an initiation degree that allows me to sit in a 'senate ' where certain training must be demonstrated before one is allowed to be even considered as a candidate ( a knowledge of history , politics and philosophy , written works demonstrating the same , and -so there are no 'fat arse politicians' - a demonstrable expertise in some form of endurance and athletics ) . Also I sat on a council for a Baha'i community , where decisions you make actually effect people's lives ... and I was voted in by those people as well . I know you won;t like any of this , and it might even make you angry .... but I cant help that , they are YOUR reactions . * not regular 'materialist companies' two were religious corporations and one was a 'multiple occupancy housing corporation . " Remember that unbalanced force is evil; that unbalanced severity is but cruelty and oppression; but that also unbalanced mercy is but weakness which would allow and abet Evil. "

I find what you ask and then what you respond hard to comprehend . You seem all over the place . The way you write seems fractured and probably is generated by undisclosed thoughts that only half come out on the 'paper' . this isn't an attack , its an explanation as to why you cant seem to comprehend what is written nor follow the discussion along that a few have contributed to . You have not met me You have just encountered someone outside your ' confirmation zone ' . That is often unavoidable .

Mine was a bit shorter From my teacher * " Just ask 'Big Mum' for whatever you need , she will look after you . " * ( It worked for them for 40,000 years ) .