Nungali

One view is that it means ; you do shit , you will suffer . It can be instant or a bit delayed . If you piss in your water , then you have to suffer with polluted water . If you treat people bad in your community that is disruptive and you now have to live in a disrupted community or even if , in a community, people are over merciful, about other people doing shit , then it will get worse . Life is intimately and complexly connected , your actions may have wide implications . But you don't do you ? Maybe that's because you are more intelligent than a person that needs 'scary kid stories' to engender correct social behavior ? - the same thing can be said for religions , of course. No, that is your 'punishment ' . I prefer certain Japanese ideas about it Look at this definition : " In the Japanese context, "karma" generally refers to the Buddhist concept of action, specifically intentional actions, and their consequences." Like I said above , even as simple as keeping your water clean . Its about being aware of what you do NOW and what consequences that will have later . Its about being mindful of your 'place of interaction' with the world . " It's understood as the principle that our deeds, words, and thoughts, driven by intention, lead to future results, " and of course , being a religion or philosophy that ascribes to the principle of reincarnation , it was considered that it was extended to " including future rebirths, according to the cycle of rebirth (samsara). While the word "karma" itself is a transliteration from Sanskrit, the concept is deeply ingrained in Japanese Buddhist traditions. " For example they might call 'co-incidence ' 'karma' ..... some unseen connections between people and events Being mindful as I described above is virtually the opposite of doing 'just random things in the world ' . But yes, many seem to be doing 'just random things' although influenced by other forces ( and those other forces might be those that stop or avoid them from being mindful of consequences ) . Okay . Piss in a bottle of water ..... and then drink it . I think you will get my point . Eh ? How did I learn it ? various texts from various religions and looking for comparisons of terms and themes ( Ie. same or similar idea from another culture with their word for it ) over a long period of time. Various teachers in different traditions , 'tutelary spirits' and 'life experience ' . There is something magical to everything (various butterfly wings ) But 'judging' is something Man does , not 'God' or the 'Universe ' ... it might 'enact' a law ( of physics ) ... I feel we should have got beyond the consciousness now , of thinking or believing that if a meteor crashes into a planet , the planet is being 'punished ' .

It may be 'wonderful' .... I was just surprised you knew about the 'overheated' bit . I suppose if the problem persists , his tail could be removed ?

There is that HINT for the second time from two different posters ... The other wrote something like 'what people choose to believe ' There is a VERY different dynamic going on between people who believe something and people that choose or decide to believe something .

But do you like cookies ?

Is that you Cobie ?

This mornings (most recent ) 'strange thing ' ; Driving through dangerous flood waters while onlookers cheer you on . " Let's see if he 'makes ' it . and if he doesn't 'make it' ??? background : https://www.theguardian.com/environment/video/2025/may/22/thousands-isolated-as-nsw-faces-worse-flooding-than-many-have-seen-in-their-lifetimes-video Three dead and one missing , most from crossing floodwaters . For years we have been hammered NOT to do this ; radio TV and newspaper adverts ... sometimes constantly ... stern policeman warning us , emergency workers begging us not to do it .... yet A few floods back I have stopped at our nearest (old style low wooden ) bridge as I was not going to drive over and a police vehicle is there with two officers ; Police to me ; " What do you reckon ?" Me; " About what ?" Police; " Do you think we will make it ?" Me : "Oh sure ! " So off they go , the POLICE crossing floodwaters , after accepting advice from some random dude on the roadside . ! Anyway, I been flooded in for some time ( I waved the rescue helicopter on with a thumbs up , I am used to floods and not stupid , I checked the weather and saw it coming and went out and got extra gas, fuel in case I need generator - didn't , solar never went below 12.4 v ! ... my own system - neighbor has super duper professionally installed system, - they had their generator running- and I got plenty of fire wood, food and packets of joint papers in the rice jar . ) We just had two days of glorious blue sky but water is still over the bridge , don't stop people though . I watched this morning . There is a huge hole on this side where bridge end meets the road ... hidden . Dude comes along from other side , too fast , a wall of water in front of him, over the hood, I signal there is a hole but ... mhe . Wham ! Boy did the bottom of his engine take a blow ! But he got through and then scoffed to everyone ... until he realized he lost his number plate and then tried to go back in on foot and fish around in the raging hole trying to find it while he hung over the edge . Then a guy comes along walking a drinking a beer while he is crossing . Signal him but nah , he is smug .... and steps in the hole , nearly goes over edge . Then young goth girl with big Doc Martin's thick wooly short socks and lace tights gets out a car and walks into the water calf deep ... Mother ; " Why did you do that ? You have ruined your new boots and now you have wet feet all day ! " Crazies ... I had to go home and could not watch . ( rescue helicopter is back ... its got a stretcher on it ) A few years back when the water went down the next bridge down stream , from one end of the flooded bank to the other was a wall of thick high flotsam of huge tree stumps with gnarly roots, logs and similar in a tangle with the top just above the raging water level above the bridge deck . Two 'intrepid' young guys decided to cross by climbing along the top . I had a look at that , it was terrifying ; swirling masses of strong water getting sucked through the unstable labyrinth with many trees with root ball attached with broken roots and logs pointing upstream, like rows of teeth waiting . Anyway they made it ... just , but really scared themselves , so much so they could not face it on the way back (from the shop .... heavens knows what product they needed so urgently ? beer ? smokes ? something with coconut on it ? ) and decided to walk upstream and do a diagonal current crossing way up stream. Number 1 goes, he tells me later " I thought I wasn't going to make it , I swam as hard as I could for ages , it was close I nearly got sucked in " Now he is signalling to his mate 'NO ' and indicating to go much further upstream . mate is enthusiastically waving back ! and in he goes ..... he didn't make it . I sometimes think of the terror that kid felt as he approached that wall and got helplessly sucked down and into it . His body was found a few days later downstream . Yes, people's stupidity does annoy me . Especially when its tragic results could have been so easily avoided . Deep fried turkey anyone ?

That's a good point Lairg ! The essential difference is between water , the emotions and ruler of reactions and air , the intellectual capacity and seat of response . The base emotions and drives seem pushed and pulled by fiery and watery reactions and drives ruled by Mars and Venus on the base line while Mercury takes the mediated and responsive position above that plane, at the apex forming a 'triangle' around the Moon (representing the internal dynamics of the unconscious psyche ) with Mercury linking out of that 'hell' as 'psychopomp' enabling a link to the 'Superconscience'. .

Well ... if a bunch of people can be pardoned for trying to overthrow US democracy from within ....... why not ?

'Winning ' ... with two face palms !

That's a big tree for transplant , however those types seem to handle it , if its done in right season . Many trees are planted . Not that many survive . A problem for all the 'carbon capture ' , as low as 15% survival rates in some cases . I keep telling people ; its good to plant them water them and put a guard around them .... but you have to take care of them as they grow up ! At this years festival here ; I want to take people around and make them look at what they did last year . The tree plantings they did then are already dead ! It isn't enough to ceremoniously dig a hole and get all 'meditative' about it and ceremonially plant A TREE ( that is doing that for each one ! ) and all put water in your mouth and mix it with spit and put it in the hole and then do some chant . Especially when it is in a bad spot where it is going to grow ( bad soil , root invasion including poisoned bamboo roots done by "Land Care' regeneration group - no it is bare of trees because none grow there ! Just planting more trees will not address the problems of what killed the old ones ( where is that new facepalm thingo ? ) I mean , those guys didn't have any water with them to soak the ground after planting . I hope to show them how to do the whole process realistically ... but I am pretty sure the organizers will step in and not allow me to do it . festivals be a bit like Daobums nowadays

He has 'passed on' as well . AEF * apparently . As Lois Cypher said in Angel Heart ; ' Weinstien ? Daniel ? .... Oh, he died , a terrible tragedy ." * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autoerotic_fatality

You set up America as being different uncorrupted and better then others , yet when slavery history is pointed out you "OH well everyone else did it ." Fail !

Reading Kafka and his plot lines are like jumping off a cliff ! Great question and it deserves another thread or private converse ... this is not the media apparently for such a deep and important discussion (any more ) . briefly I would say it involves interaction with the ' True Will ' and making conscious decisions that help you move towards that expression and though hard work perseverance good fortune and luck come to an underatdning of you psyche and how it works , and also your 'personna' ( the 'you' you became from interaction with your specific environment and 'externals' , including an insight into your psychology conditioning and drives AND a way of regulating and controlling that towards your true aim and purpose that you incarnated for ... in short , by practicing Magick , Dude ... that is brilliant ! Its going on a t-shirt ! ' If free will is anything - it's the pain of not eating Count Chocula. ' or it could be you new signature . Not crazy ... see comment above about true will and magick . Not sure about that 'unsafe site' long time loading so I aborted it ... but also 'God' is an anachronism that tries to stand over us

He isn't considered 'Bad' in Mongolia ! Was Lord Nelson bad ? Was Francis Drake bad ? How about Magellan ?

Please try to educate yourself ; This place emerged in the 17 the C !

I think the guy is just posting BS to annoy people or start arguments . Australia NEVER had slavery before Euros got her .

Yet you did exactly that yourself ! Why did you single out Soviet and Nazi and US all of them commit atrocities ... some worse than others in some areas , some less . EG. the amount of people that were taken into concentration camps and died there by Nazis is a lot more than those that suffered torture and still do , at Guantanamo bay ( but now you will say that it is not America ... its a country US invaded annexed part of and uses for its crimes against humanity and they do that there so they can say we don't do it in America . And US gets the price for more people killed and devastation with a single bomb drop . I could go on and with citation proof and evidence - which YOU don't use but ... This is all nasty and horrible , I would not be saying it if you did not make the BS claims you are . I know some don't like it ..... like Coby , but sorry , I am going to speak up here .

Out of the near 2 Billion Muslims in the world about 4 and half Million live in USA ... so you work it out ! I also note how you avoid figures and statistics and use 'impossible language' ( how would I wow what Muslims like to do with their money ? ) to try and support your prejudices . Do you as a Christian want to live in a country founded on Islamic ideology and principles ? What makes you think Muslims are flocking to the USA ? I know born and bread Americans that are wanting to flee it right now ! Did you think these questions would demonstrate some point or something ? You appear to be rambling ... or maybe ranting - hard to tell from here . That HAS TO BE delusional . But I do know there are masses ... swarms... of people in your country that believes that . here are some other people that believe that about their country even more than you do I regret to inform you that you too have been successfully brainwashed . And I expect you will be as open to hearing that as the average North Korean citizen would be . If you have not noticed, the place has become so messed up many people want to leave ! They pulled the wool over your eyes ... USA is NOT doing good financially Debt is simply the total amount of money the US government owes to its lenders, currently amounting to $36.2 trillion. This represents 122 percent of the country's annual economic output or gross domestic product (GDP), and it is growing by about $1 trillion every three months. All of it , it was inaccurate , uneducated, wrong , no support references or citation, illogical and a set of whimsical ideas invented by you to back up your own prejudices and the brainwashing the state has done on you And all this in a discussion about 'Do people really have free will ' ! Well, thanks for the demonstration ! When the truth is revealed ..... even onlookers get upset

Innnnnnn ..... hold ........ and ouuuuut . Now ..... did I say an untruth or anything he didn't declare himself first . If you are happy to let that go on here , then its your choice what this site turns out like , if so I shall ignore him and watch Daobums further degrade , if that is what you want . so its up to you now

The same with rents .... they put up shop rents ridiculously , in the 'popular' near by town it has a result of continually recycling some businesses , open and go broke and close in 6 months .... what happened to all those people that went broke and lost their money and business ? Now living at the homeless camp ? That's greed on property owners part .... but the stranger thing is the less popular towns , those shop rents are not affordably so the business closes down and so does the shop - empty or abandoned . Does this free market of ours immediately drop the rent as supply and demand would seem to dictate ? Nope , rent stays up , no one rents it owner gets no money at all ... but they won't offer cheaper rent . So now some small town centers look 20 % abandoned with empty and boarded up shops while the owner looses money . WTF ? Its almost as if you pay for the privileged and experience of running a shop for a little while . That reminds me of 'intern directors ' ; I worked on a film in Melbourne and they do it a bit different 'down there ' , I never seen so many 3ADs ( third assistant directors , basically menials that run errands, hold and release crowds of extras from their 'holding pens' onto sets etc . I talked to some and they were enthusiastic and one said something about being an 'intern' . I had to ask . Apparently the company advertised film intern positions for trainee ship ...... " Are they paying you ?" Oh no, but I get training and experience on a film set and free lunch ! ... Wow ! getting another job as film director with that experience is like an actor claiming past experience as being there a dead body in a crime series or suffering incontinence in a tv commercial .... "Oh right ! You were that adult diaper woman with the urinary problem ! "

One supposes he wanted to see the effects and the whole food chain on planet earth collapse . Lairg's contexts seem to be to take anything and vaguely relate it to some exploit of his how he was rather evolved and fantastic on some obscure and abstract cosmic level Porridge may be habitual and therefore not really a 'choice' ... you would have to go shopping , really feel like and want to have porridge , go to take the porridge and then .... no ! I choose by an act of my own free will to have Count Chocula's ! And then you will be free ! .... but constipated . Oh wait ..... unless you realized you got influenced by me saying this , so it would not work ..... choose unicorns instead .... Doh ! yes, that's a good one ! However what if they had an elder brother who was good at sports and the family pressured one to do likewise . OR other even unseen or unconscious forces were at play 'driving' you to certain choices ( which is why in psychology such forces are called 'drives' ). Things might be a LOT more complicated than they seem on the surface .

You chose to end plankton ???? Like; eliminate plankton so it was no more ? You are becoming even more obscure . Of course it does ! What, you haven't noticed ? I freely choose to do some thing , it causes external effects , if they are the effects I wanted then something is controlled , changed, developed or destroyed .

Brilliant ! Its a great story line . Kurt Vonnegut ( you will know him, of course ) studied story lines in depth and realized there were some main popular stories that have similar story line plots and realized Cinderella and the Bible have the same graph (IE. the Bible story , we have not experienced the end yet , Jesus is supposed to come back yet and make a new good kingdom ) which made the story so popular . All stories with that graph are the best liked . But here you have transposed one part of the 'big story ' ( from the Bible ) with another modern pop story plot and the way you described it is also a classic of mythology relating to an another 'Bastard of a God' Zeuss . What happens there ? Hades ( Darth Vader ) comes to Zeuss ( seemingly benevolent sky wizard ) , his brother and wants to have his way with Persephone ( wanted her , his niece, to 'be his wife' ) ... IE. his own niece... or 'us' . Now that makes her Zeuss' own daughter , and she is underage ... but mhe ... okay to please his brother , but mum and wife won't like this , so just abduct her and take her to Hades (realm ) . Through God's will or at slackness he allows his brother to rape his underage daughter . .. 'turns a blind eye and lets him have his way with you ' . No God doesn't have free will . Read the Bible . he is restricted and controlled by lower base ego, jealousy, rage, aggression , greed .... all the stuff that we KNOW is not good, healthy or advancing to us or our society ........ yet ... what a strange state of affairs ! The ethical system God follows is one written and created for him by the scribes of Josiah's time , back dating texts about the founding of a new nation by a people coming out of a wilderness and creating a great Kingdom , like the world had never seen in order to justify their about to happen moves north from Judah into the devastated Israel that just had the Babylonian overlords retreat from and set up the Kingdom there "again' , just like there used to be . Until he went north on campaign and tried to do that and an Egyptian put a spear through his chest . That's where the 'ethical system' comes from ; late Bronze - early Iron Age warlord attempting to overtake a devastated ex war zone . Oh, and where does God get his authority ? Another God higher up ? I read once someone asking what holds the world up ? Giant turtle . What holds the turtle up ? He got elephants under him holding him up . But what holds the elephants up ? Each elephant has a turtle under each foot . But what holds those turtles up ? " Look you ! It's turtles and elephants all the way down , okay ! "