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What actions brings us closer or further away to/from the light
Nungali replied to Surya's topic in General Discussion
Was this one of your 'confirmed experiments ' ? Do you realize there could be many other answers as to why she felt like that after doing the 'visualization' ? -
What actions brings us closer or further away to/from the light
Nungali replied to Surya's topic in General Discussion
Anyone ? It doesn't actually fit .... well you can make it fit ... like you can make a triangular peg go into square whole - 3 out four is close . I could be wrong of course .... if .... someone can show a correlation between the two pre - Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn . , - -
What actions brings us closer or further away to/from the light
Nungali replied to Surya's topic in General Discussion
Hmmm 'they' like the old elders we used to have , don't seem to be around anymore . A half dozen of those guys impressed me , they seemed the 'real deal ' . They had 'special abilities' that often would be tested . I saw one squatting on the balls of his feet , hands extended and someone opposite him standing holding his wrists , could not push him over . Then another started pushing the standing guy'ships from the back , then two pushing them, eventually the whole class , it was ridiculous . Then teacher dropped one knee , rotated his hands and the whole class ended up in a squirming pile on top of each other . A decade later the same organisation would teach all these movements ( even the obscure preliminary 'ki gathering' movements ) , yet I never heard them use the word ki once . I mentioned the people that taught me originally , these new people knew of them and seemed impressed that I had trained with them .... but this older generation of practitioners were older than me and I am getting pretty old myself now . I heard that at least 3 of them have passed on now . This new lot, the head or the organisation turned up ( for Australia ) ... I remembered him , he joined up just as I was finishing with that early part . He didn't seem to have what they had . -
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Nungali replied to Surya's topic in General Discussion
Did someone he know have twins ? -
Regarding AI the post above indicates a lot and something to bear in mind . In this case since you are new to astrology , its relevant . I often use it , but usually in areas where I already know the results and if not , I follow up an other references to it . It helps to not use one source ... For anything . Yes. Partially but 'this IS all about you ' (and you know you best ) - does it seem reliable to you ? Anything you use your self for . Self knowledge implies self development . What I mean there is , if you have a car , its a good idea to know how it works , what's best to do TO it , how to fix it ... etc . But it should not just stay in the garage . Well, you have jumped ahead of me a bit , I did mention what was next , but I didn't feel the Sun Moon relationship was looked into much ... then again I am going slow ( as I have other projects going - and you do ) . Since you were using a tropic chart it means that the planet Jupiter, from our vantage point , has entered that segment of space around and out from the Earth , designated 'Cancer' , which is the 4th 30 degree segment from the Equinoctal Point ( the point where the celestial Equator crosses the Ecliptic . . . which - now- is nearly 30 degrees beyond the constellation of Cancer) . IE. 99.6 deg , beyond the crossing point of those 'colures' ( imaginary lines drawn on the celestial map ) ; Jupiter is said to be beneficial and expansive and it is 'exulted' in Cancer .
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I'll comment on two things here ( since you asked ) ; You note the importance of greed (or actually 'not being greedy' ) in primitive society . The Gumbaynggirr have a main story about 'The Muurrbay Tree' , a giant colossal white fig , by the coast near here . The related tribes used to meet there once a year for a big feast . One time , one tribe got there first and started climbing up in the tree and eating the fruit before the others arrived . When they did " Hey ! What are you mob doing ? You have eaten all the best figs ? " Anyway a fight breaks out and now the peaceful community celebration has turned into a brawl . All of a sudden a big arm comes down out the sky , grabs it and pulls it out the ground, roots and all and up into the sky .... people in the tree are falling off and then ..... gone .... forever . I have a painting of that crucial moment done by a local chap, it hangs on my wall . Coincidentally in an entirely different traditions , again all the best figs are eaten , in Greek myth , by the raven ( did you know that before this he used to have a pleasant song and white plumage ? ) . And the South Park vid about earth being 'sealed off' . A claim in the Urantia Book ... we are under planetary quarantine . 'They' have ' flagged us' . . . with the 'Yellow Jack ' .
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Hi Lala . I'm 'all for' three in one ! " Oh, pilot of the storm who leaves no tracelike thoughts inside a dream.Heed the path that led me to that place with yellow desert stream.My Shangri-La beneath the summer moon, I will return again.Sure as the dust that blows high in June, when movin' through Kashmir. "
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What actions brings us closer or further away to/from the light
Nungali replied to Surya's topic in General Discussion
That's one secret to it . But standing meditation can have another secret -
What actions brings us closer or further away to/from the light
Nungali replied to Surya's topic in General Discussion
I see you were confused by this Coby . I see a similarity in that an empty womb is indeed empty BUT it contains the possibility to not remain empty , like 'empty space does ' , empty space still has a ' time / space continuum in it ' that allows things to manifest within it .... they go through a 'nurturing period' within it ( like the process of giving 'birth to' 1, 2 and 3 ... and then the material objects of the 10,000 things . Dao IS 'empty ' but it must contain the possibility of something manifesting within / out from it . ( Did that make it more confusing ? ) -
What actions brings us closer or further away to/from the light
Nungali replied to Surya's topic in General Discussion
Ermmmm ... obscure but .... okay then ; -
What actions brings us closer or further away to/from the light
Nungali replied to Surya's topic in General Discussion
In 'bookish Thelema ' it is equated with Nuit , based on the Egyptian sky Goddess Nu or Nut . Nuit is said to be the time / space continuum from which, or within which 'Hadit ' ( the winged disc .. or 'one point ' ) manifests . In a way Hadit can be seen as 'the ten thousand things ' . As their ( the ten thousand things ) 'archetype ' the 'manifest point' or the omnipresent point , the core of each star and each person ( also perhaps , 'nodes of awareness ) .... geometrically the relationship is described as Nuit being a sphere whose circumference is infinite and thus, whose center is everywhere while Hadit is the point at that / these center/s . -
What actions brings us closer or further away to/from the light
Nungali replied to Surya's topic in General Discussion
Not just you Sterling .... check his posts and responses ( and then the way he 'likes' ) What and who gets his positive feedback is 'interesting' too . _ Thanks for your contributions here -
What actions brings us closer or further away to/from the light
Nungali replied to Surya's topic in General Discussion
he sometimes seems 'over protective ' about certain people and conversely seems to exaggerate others assertions into aggression . besides ... your the type that can handle a good slap ! ( just keep a still mind about it ) -
What actions brings us closer or further away to/from the light
Nungali replied to Surya's topic in General Discussion
One of the practices I am allowed to know about ( as its a woman's tradition , men's and women's 'business' - secret indigenous teaching - are supposed to be kept secret and apart here ) with my woman friend , who is a Gurudjigen (medicinal plant knowledge gatherer, preparer , prescriber, etc - 'medicine woman ' ) involves at least an hour a day in the morning 'sitting' . Especially before going out gathering . Another thing with 'stillness' ... nature or even 'the natural clock' seems to practice it . A few times at home , when someone is present I will ; " Stop for a moment ... do you hear and feel that ?" "What ?" " Nothing ! .... at this moment , no sound .... no wind , no human noises intruding , no birds , the insects have stopped making a noise ........... ........ then it starts up again . And the plants respond as well , during the still time the stomata in plants closes , and opens when the noise starts up again . -
What actions brings us closer or further away to/from the light
Nungali replied to Surya's topic in General Discussion
'They' did this to me : 1 ; Sit in seiza , maintain your one point and have an empty mind . .......... ( timeless pause ) . " Okay, now stand up and come over here ........ right, now you are here .... did you do all that while maintaining your one point and empty mind ? " Damn ! " Back you go , stage 1 . " Again . Maintained . " Now do the exercises - did you do all that with ....... ?" Damn ! Back to stage 1 . Rise , go over, exercises , take up the sword , practice cuts 1 - 3 .... " Did you maintain ..... ? Damn ! Back to stage 1 ..... and so on , until one gets to the stage where they charge at you with live sharp katana, screaming, and stop the cut a fraction in front of your face .... " Did you still maintain ...... ?" Then its empty hand practice , taking the sword off them while they attack ( switch to wooden sword for safety ) all the above , plus blending with the attack, taking the sword , while maintaining empty mind, one point , 'composure ' and being 'at peace '. -
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Nungali replied to Surya's topic in General Discussion
I like your 'bookish learning ' - its helpful However it does distract from our bizarre and obscure understandings - where we can make whatever we want out of it . -
What actions brings us closer or further away to/from the light
Nungali replied to Surya's topic in General Discussion
I like your 'bookish learning ' - its helpful However it does distract from our bizarre and obscure understandings - where we can make whatever we want out of it . -
What actions brings us closer or further away to/from the light
Nungali replied to Surya's topic in General Discussion
How about this ; developing an inner stillness and 'non - separateness ' ( like Sterling mentioned ) that allows a better enactment of all the external stuff ( like you just mentioned ) ? I am thinking of things like when I could enter a sword match , maintain 'clear blue sky' in the mind, have an inner stillness , blend with 'everything' , yet still do well with all the 'complex activity' involved . Someone that does not have that , you can 'feel' it , it feels fractured, 'all over the place ' , uncertain .... and then they are bound to make a bad mistake . -
That reminds me of an 'event' years back : I used to be a member of 'Tarot Forum ' . There was a LOT of commercialism and marketing around that . Some people there believed all sorts of silly stuff , and , of course I was unpopular with some there for pointing it out . Then they got 'ammunition against me ' ; two of the big names in the business ( and I do mean business ! ) made this announcement that they had made a prediction from a reading and could PROVE it would be true . I was " go on then " . They were not on the forum but were marketing through social media and similar , their claims were cited by members on the forum . It was a cheap trick .... they lied . They set up something previously and then concocted a reading and dated that and then confirmed it with this supposed 'later' event . They got busted for it ( not by me, by a few others ) and it came out and I said " Told ya they was lying ! " All sorts of stuff flew out the Pandora's box ; believing members accused me of saying all this stuff about them that was slanderous ( which means , basically , untrue - I never said anything about them that was not true ) . I pointed out that what these members were saying I never said and actually , if anything THEY said it about those people , as it never came from me ... they made it up . Then these professional Tarot deck makers (marketers ) excused it all by saying it was a marketing ploy ... they had a new deck coming out and used this ' prank' to create interest in it . People were 'Ohhh , we see ... good one ! Yay there is new deck we can buy from these 'Tarot experts' ! " Eh ? They seemed to miss the whole point that the 'truth' of Tarot being able to predict what was to happen flopped , and they finally got this example of proof ... but it was actually lies and lies designed to boost the sales of their new product . Just after that the site announced immanent closure ... it had been around for years . No explanation, no taking up offers of selling it or anything offered by the desperate members that were trying to keep it open - sorry , we cant explain, its closing ! Right on the tail of that site allowing publication of slander to them and attributing it to someone who could prove they never said such a thing . Curious coincidence ! So there we had a case of 'magical marketers' using Tarot ( and the position of a magician .. in both meanings ; claiming divination accuracy and using using cheap illusory tricks ) to sell to sell more tarot . I tried to look up how many decks are on the market - impossible to tell , at least many thousand - one study suggested the tarot and Oracle industry is predicted to become a $93 million market by 2027 That's 'marketing magic' for ya !
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What actions brings us closer or further away to/from the light
Nungali replied to Surya's topic in General Discussion
Oh damn ! No asking ? Just when I was about to ask why someone that doesn't know " ... why? People! Why are you doing this stuff you do, cultivation? " and then gets an answer becomes a bit aggressive and obscure ..... is even on this forum in the first place ? -
What actions brings us closer or further away to/from the light
Nungali replied to Surya's topic in General Discussion
When I ask 'the internet ' 'why does AI lie to us' .... all of a sudden the first entry is NOT an AI overview .... there isn't one . https://www.livescience.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/ai-models-will-lie-to-you-to-achieve-their-goals-and-it-doesnt-take-much I then summarize NOT using AI brings us closer to the light -
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Nungali replied to Surya's topic in General Discussion
Oh no, of course not .... its not you but what is written down I respond to . But perhaps you can also explain to me what " your bookish ideological associates (like the thelemites, ) means ? .... for you . -
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Nungali replied to Surya's topic in General Discussion
For some light entertainment this is what AI says about US lying ( humans lying not the USA lying ) AI Overview The psychology of lying explores the reasons and processes behind deceptive behavior. People lie for various reasons, including self-preservation, social gain, or to protect others. Lying involves mental effort, activating brain regions associated with decision-making, emotion regulation, and even the fear of getting caught. While lying can seem advantageous in the short term, it can have negative consequences like eroding trust and damaging relationships. Motivations for Lying: Self-preservation: Lying can be a way to avoid punishment, embarrassment, or negative consequences. Social gain: People may lie to impress others, gain social acceptance, or manipulate situations to their advantage. Protecting others: "White lies" are often told to spare someone's feelings or avoid causing unnecessary hurt. Control: Lying can be a way to establish a perceived sense of control over a situation by manipulating perceptions. The Psychology of Deception: Cognitive effort: Lying requires more mental effort than telling the truth, involving cognitive processes like planning, maintaining consistency, and emotional regulation. Brain activity: Studies using functional MRIs have shown that lying activates the prefrontal cortex (involved in decision-making and problem-solving) and areas associated with emotion regulation. Amygdala's role: The amygdala, responsible for processing emotions and the fight-or-flight response, shows high activity when the first lie is told, but activity decreases with subsequent lies, suggesting a potential "habituation" effect. Social influences: Situational factors, such as the potential for punishment or embarrassment, can increase the likelihood of lying. Evolutionary perspective: Deception may have evolutionary roots, with some behaviors linked to social group dynamics and protection of offspring. Consequences of Lying: Erosion of trust: When lies are discovered, they can severely damage trust in relationships, making it difficult to rebuild. Negative impact on self-esteem: Studies have shown that lying can lower self-esteem, particularly when the lie is self-centered or other-oriented. Grief and emotional distress: Being lied to can be a painful experience, triggering a grief process and emotional distress. Difficulty in relationships: Lying can make it difficult to move forward in relationships if there is a lack of accountability and remorse. Treatment for Lying: Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT): CBT is a common therapeutic approach that helps individuals identify and change negative thought patterns that contribute to lying behavior. Identifying triggers: Therapy can help individuals understand the specific situations and emotions that trigger lying and develop coping mechanisms. Developing communication skills: CBT and other therapies can also help individuals improve their communication skills and express themselves honestly and effectively. ( There I go again .... talking about people generally and not restricting myself to talk only about me ! ... just a reminder guys , I am an anthropologist .... studying the collective human is what we do ) -
What actions brings us closer or further away to/from the light
Nungali replied to Surya's topic in General Discussion
'We' as in the 'collective us' . What, you haven't noticed all the lying out there ? But it seems you are claiming you don't lie ? How do I know that wasn't a lie ? -
What actions brings us closer or further away to/from the light
Nungali replied to Surya's topic in General Discussion
You realize AI learnt form us ? Of course it will lie ... its what we do .