As to your question about using a proxy: It is meaningless for us to claim independence. We cannot be independent because we are not even separate. Since there is no separation between us and other humans or other parts of creation, it is irrelevant whether we use a proxy or not to create a healing. All is One.
I think you are spot on there. We must remember that time and space is an illusion; that we are not separate from each other, and that if we wish to use a proxy such as Jesus or some Rinpoche, then all we need to do is to get into the consciousness of that proxy. The proxy is Here Now.
In truth, there are many levels of consciousness; awareness of each one gives us a new perspective. Yet we can, with some effort, look back and see the perspectives that we have left behind - like remembering how it was to think as a child.
Funny you should say this. Just this morning at breakfast Joe and I were watching a young boy, maybe 6 years old, dipping his knife into a small jam container and letting it drip into his mouth. I asked Joe 'can you remember doing that as a young boy?' and we both mentally tried to put ourselves into the boy's mind, with our own young histories to draw upon for the feelings. He was sitting across from his grandfather, assumedly - and just saying anything that came off the top of his head, as kids do. Granddad was trying to read the paper, wasn't much amused by the boy's inane remarks or questions. Can you not remember doing exactly the same thing to an older person when you were a kid? Like asking 'Are we there yet?' over and over to your folks in the car, much to their aggravation. Can you feel your own young impatience because of your excitement and anticipation?
When I first started studying Plato's Allegory of the Cave, it first occurred to me that it was quite a convoluted way of saying 'Through a Glass Darkly!', the prisoners in the cave, chained with their limbs or their heads unable to move at all, back to the burning sun up behind them, seeing all manifestation as shadows on a screen sort of thing. But the allegory was more impactful the further it went on.
Do you remember the conversation your parents had with you, telling you not to stare at the sun? Do do, I remember the very day my mom told me this. Was it Van Gogh who went crazy staring at the sun? I wonder why he did that. Was it because his genius realized at some point that the answers were contained in the sun, either metaphorically or physically; one of the degrees of the Scottish Rites goes into great detail about how souls are born and emit from the sun, go through the seven planets (chakras, I suspect) to enter the human body, and return through the seven planets to go back to the sun? That the sun is the very purging entity of the souls, purging that which had remained unpurged during the lifetime of the human? Macrocosm / microcosm.
Plato further goes on to substantiate that which you and I have already discussed; that enlightenment is not an end at all, that it is merely the beginning of the true Walk. Think Quan Yin. She achieved her enlightenment and then by choice returned to the groans and moans of humanity, rather than ascend to the place of her own comfort, the place she had earned. And indeed Plato tells us later in the metaphor that that final comfortable ascension is not the purpose at all: "They must be made to descend again to the prisoners of the cave; Not to please themselves, but to be instruments in binding up the State". (Referring to both enlightened citizens and enlightened rulers). He goes on to say "When you are King of Yourself, you are fit to be King of other citizens". This is because when we get to know ourselves, to dig deeply within without fear of what we're going to find, to find the True Self---that we come to See all others as well. We understand their motivations because we understand our own. That we are not different from each other at all, that we are All One and do have the same needs and wants, however contorted by our circumstances and upbringing. The need for Love at the bottom of all remains, even if it becomes disguised in the form of riches, industrial achievement, or any type of ego bolstering. At the bottom we all want and need the same thing: love. To even want an entity called Wisdom is of the ego. It is a desire to set apart ourselves from our Brothers and stand out, to be placed above. And yet that is the very motivating factor that brings us to ourselves, usually. The desire for Wisdom; however I suspect that at some point the desire for Wisdom as an outreach of ego is supplanted with the desire for Truth, real Truth, if we're lucky. This is where and why conscious subjugation of our own egos is necessary for the final leap.
Another angel to this question of using a proxy: What or who is the Higher Self? When the Higher Self comes down and merges with your body, called the Chymical Marriage by the Western Mystics, is this not a gift, the use of another entity to further your personal spiritual evolution? Or are we simply becoming aware of a larger part of our self and merging with that. This merging awakens grace. This higher power makes changes in you that you could not do for yourself. Think of this higher energy as the kundalini. The golden light is filled with grace and is certainly a form of using a proxy. Jesus represents this grace to the Christians. What changes do this higher energy make in us? It swallows up our fear. It also consumes our thoughts and emotions, all thoughts and all emotions, until we find ourselves in a Nothingness. "No center, just diffused feeling," as Osho describes this. Then when the moment arrives, you bust out of the Nothingness into a Golden Dawn.
My own metaphor for this is symbolized by the physical thing I am doing now.....when I earlier mentioned putting my forehead to the floor several times a day. It started out as a desire to heal the arthritis in my knees, but it is turning into so much more. I have added a candle to this ceremony, which I designate as the flame of Kundalini within me, which does burn constantly. However, by subjugating myself below this flame when I place my forehead to the floor, I am subjugating myself to the Kundalini spirit, the One within - and reminding myself every time I do it that I only wish to be a vessel for whatever wants to emit through me. For my ego to get out of the way so that the flow can go through straightly and unimpeded by my own contortions.
What a Catch-22 we're placed in, it occurs to me. We must retain enough ego to stay out of oncoming traffic, and yet find the perfect balance so that we are channeling straightly, without contortion.
As to rulers of the State, where Plato eventually ends up - this reminds me so much of The Art of War (and the Sage in the TTC) and the reluctant general. It is the reluctant general that wins, the reluctant leader that rules wisely. They let all come to them, they do not stir the pot prematurely. They know by Letting It Be that all will align as it is naturally supposed to; the best leader will be the one stirring the pot most infrequently. They will be accused of leading from behind. Which they are doing. As Plato says at the end:
"Whereas the truth is that the State in which the rulers are most reluctant to govern is always the best and most quietly governed, and the State in which they are the most eager, the worst." Huzzah.
Edited by manitou, 18 October 2013 - 09:06 AM.