Ungrounded despite grounding – is this a mismatch?

[kakapo]

3 hours ago, Cobie said:

 

What does that mean “sung”?

 

 

 

I think he is referring to mental massage, letting the tension from every muscle and joint go, and completely relaxing the mind and body. 

[kakapo]

3 hours ago, Cobie said:

 

Why?  Why make yourselves unbalanced? 

 

 

Let's think about what it actually means to be in perfect balance with your environment.

 

Picture a rock floating through deep space. Eventually, that rock will cool down until its temperature is close to absolute zero. At that point, the rock is perfectly balanced with its freezing surroundings, but it certainly is not alive.

 

To be alive is to constantly fight against being in balance with your environment.

 

Think about how energy flows to make this happen. Plants harvest sunlight and store it as chemical energy. Then, we eat those plants to borrow that stored energy for ourselves.

 

We put that energy to work in all sorts of active ways:

 

To repair old cells and build new ones.

 

To keep our bodies warm.

 

To fuel our brains and muscles so we can think and move.

 

If we ever reached perfect balance with our environment, all of that active work would stop. Just like the rock in space, we would have no energy left to keep going.

 

Imagine pushing this idea even further and pulling in vastly more energy than a normal organism ever could.

[Apech]

3 hours ago, Cobie said:

 

What does that mean “sung”?

 

 

 

**"Sung the body"** (often just "sung") refers to a core principle in Tai Chi and Qigong, where "sung" (鬆, sōng) means a deep, controlled release of tension throughout the body.[1][3]

## Core Meaning
Sung goes beyond surface-level relaxation; it's about loosening joints from within, stretching tissues like rubber for elasticity without limpness or stiffness. This creates space for qi (energy) to flow freely, maintaining upright posture while feeling energized and alert.[2][5][1]

## In Practice
Visualize elongating your spine, opening elbows, wrists, hips, and knees outward to release bound tension down to the bones. Practitioners describe it as yielding to gravity and heaven, mentally and physically, like a baby's natural softness.[3][1][2]

## Benefits
Achieving sung improves flexibility, balance, and internal power (like "peng jing"), while reducing stress that blocks qi. It's foundational, practiced in stages from limbs to full-body-and-mind integration.

[justjoseph]

7 hours ago, Apech said:

 

**"Sung the body"** (often just "sung") refers to a core principle in Tai Chi and Qigong, where "sung" (鬆, sōng) means a deep, controlled release of tension throughout the body.[1][3]

## Core Meaning
Sung goes beyond surface-level relaxation; it's about loosening joints from within, stretching tissues like rubber for elasticity without limpness or stiffness. This creates space for qi (energy) to flow freely, maintaining upright posture while feeling energized and alert.[2][5][1]

## In Practice
Visualize elongating your spine, opening elbows, wrists, hips, and knees outward to release bound tension down to the bones. Practitioners describe it as yielding to gravity and heaven, mentally and physically, like a baby's natural softness.[3][1][2]

## Benefits
Achieving sung improves flexibility, balance, and internal power (like "peng jing"), while reducing stress that blocks qi. It's foundational, practiced in stages from limbs to full-body-and-mind integration.

You don't visualise anything, it is physical, if you visualise then you use the mind and you don't achieve song. The body should be put in the correct position then constantly released within that position. That is what song is. 

[Apech]

50 minutes ago, justjoseph said:

You don't visualise anything, it is physical, if you visualise then you use the mind and you don't achieve song. The body should be put in the correct position then constantly released within that position. That is what song is. 

That was from AI I confess.  Yes I agree no visualization.

[justjoseph]

2 hours ago, Apech said:

That was from AI I confess.  Yes I agree no visualization.

Good man for being honest. Use your brain Apech lest you lose it.

[Apech]

10 minutes ago, justjoseph said:

Good man for being honest. Use your brain Apech lest you lose it.

You haven’t seen the state of my brain.

[justjoseph]

58 minutes ago, Apech said:

You haven’t seen the state of my brain.

I haven't seen the state of my own.