Leaving the body

[Surya]

So, three different teachers at «my» temple has started talking about how I am about to leave my body. It has also popped up, dear I say it, synchronsinistly, here and there. What does this mean and how can I go about it?

 

They all made it clear I would remain in the material realm as an individual in this lifetime while doing so. Is it a reference to astral travel, or maybe becoming alive, increase vitality and silencing the thoughts and all the mental chatter?

 

Kundalina awakening was also namedropped in a private lecture. The teacher asked me if I knew what it meant, I said I don’t, but I had watched a short video of Sadghuru where he talked about it as presence (or so I understood ).

 

Well, thank you, that’s about what I have on my mind. Please enlighten me and enbrighten you 🙏

 

[stirling]

What tradition is this? What is the ultimate intention for this practice? 

[Surya]

1 hour ago, stirling said:

What tradition is this? What is the ultimate intention for this practice? 

Isckon. The intention, I am not sure. It is not a stable of the society, as far as I am aware. As far as I see it, they are about love and service. My guru is no doubt a humble and loving soul.

[BigSkyDiamond]

3 hours ago, Surya said:

So, three different teachers at «my» temple has started talking about how I am about to leave my body. It has also popped up, dear I say it, synchronsinistly, here and there. What does this mean and how can I go about it?

 

maybe ask them,  ask the teachers.

what it means and how to go about it.

 

Edited Thursday at 05:06 PM by BigSkyDiamond

[Cobie]

 

5 hours ago, Surya said:

… to leave my body …

Imo spiritual practice is not about ‘leaving my body’, but about becoming aware that God/Krishna is ‘inside my body’.  

 

 

[Surya]

16 minutes ago, Cobie said:

 

Imo spiritual practice is not about ‘leaving my body’, but about becoming aware that God/Krishna is ‘inside my body’.  

 

 

Makes lots of sense. God/Krishna conciousness is really about that, is it not?
 

Sort of realates to this as well:

5 hours ago, Surya said:

becoming alive, increase vitality and silencing the thoughts and all the mental chatter?

Does it not?

 

We also had the pleasure of having HH Dhirasanta dasa Goswami paying us a visit last month, he repeated that the ACB of the movement is: "you are not your body."

Edited Thursday at 07:45 PM by Surya
Clarity

[stirling]

3 hours ago, Surya said:

Isckon. The intention, I am not sure. It is not a stable of the society, as far as I am aware. As far as I see it, they are about love and service. My guru is no doubt a humble and loving soul.

 

So, Hare Krishnas, yes? A quick google says that leaving your body seems to refer to a death practice. Are you dying?

 

Enlightenment wouldn't require that you leave your body, but would show you that "you" are not your body.

[Surya]

2 minutes ago, stirling said:

 

So, Hare Krishnas, yes? A quick google says that leaving your body seems to refer to a death practice. Are you dying?

 

Enlightenment wouldn't require that you leave your body, but would show you that "you" are not your body.

No Sir, my health might be quite far from ideal, but I am certainly not dyeing : ) I am confident that they were not refering to that either, as they stressed that I could continue my material experience in this very body and this life time.

 

 

3 hours ago, BigSkyDiamond said:

 

maybe ask them,  ask the teachers.

what it means and how to go about it.

 

Not a bad idea, all three of them will be gone for about a month or so. 

[Cobie]

 

 

29 minutes ago, Surya said:

… God/Krishna conciousness … silencing the thoughts and all the mental chatter …

Yes 

 

29 minutes ago, Surya said:

 …  "you are not your body."

 

Exactly. And the way to become aware of this, is to go ‘inside’ and still the mind. 

 

Edited Thursday at 08:15 PM by Cobie

[Surya]

1 minute ago, Cobie said:

 

 

Exactly.

And the way to become aware of this, is to go ‘inside’ and still the mind. 

 

Mhm, that has been a constant struggle for me as my mind is like the wind. During Jappa (chanting) and Kirtan («singing mantra) at the temple it becomes calm tho, it is wonderful.

 

Kirtan:

https://youtu.be/VP623hMbAIA?si=u2LX_5ce_oBXhSSw

[Cobie]

 

26 minutes ago, Surya said:

Mhm, that has been a constant struggle for me as my mind is like the wind. 

 

Yes the mind is like the ‘wind’. 

 

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During Jappa (chanting) and Kirtan («singing mantra) at the temple it becomes calm tho, it is wonderful. 

oh yes, that is wonderful.  Also helps to get in the right virtuous frame of mind which imo is necessary for stilling the mind.
 

 

Edited Thursday at 08:43 PM by Cobie

[stirling]

2 hours ago, Surya said:

No Sir, my health might be quite far from ideal, but I am certainly not dyeing : ) I am confident that they were not refering to that either, as they stressed that I could continue my material experience in this very body and this life time.

 

 

Not a bad idea, all three of them will be gone for about a month or so. 

 

I wouldn't voluntarily submit to an assisted process labelled "dying" without a clear idea of what that means in context. When you have more information about the process or intent, please share here what that might entail. 

[Nungali]

9 hours ago, Surya said:

So, three different teachers at «my» temple has started talking about how I am about to leave my body. It has also popped up, dear I say it, synchronsinistly, here and there. What does this mean and how can I go about it?

 

They all made it clear I would remain in the material realm as an individual in this lifetime while doing so. Is it a reference to astral travel, or maybe becoming alive, increase vitality and silencing the thoughts and all the mental chatter?

 

Kundalina awakening was also namedropped in a private lecture. The teacher asked me if I knew what it meant, I said I don’t, but I had watched a short video of Sadghuru where he talked about it as presence (or so I understood ).

 

Well, thank you, that’s about what I have on my mind. Please enlighten me and enbrighten you 🙏

 

 

 

Its hard to tell ... I could POSTULATE   but going to the source ( them )  would be better , wouldn't it ?

 

I think if you want 'a 2nd opinion' you will have to give more detail on that THEY meant . 

 

Or maybe you are about to undergo entry or initiation or something  and they are referring to a difference  from 'then on ' . 

[Nungali]

3 hours ago, Cobie said:

 

Imo spiritual practice is not about ‘leaving my body’, but about becoming aware that God/Krishna is ‘inside my body’.  

 

 

 

Yeah ... but he is a male   .  

 

ya know  .....    snips and snails and puppy dog tails and  giant big red  rocket ships blasting off into the dark void of space  ! .... 

 

.... sorry , got a bit carried there   ( I'm a male too ! )  

 

https://www.sensitiveskinmagazine.com/big-space-fuck-kurt-vonnegut/

[Nungali]

3 hours ago, Surya said:

Makes lots of sense. God/Krishna conciousness is really about that, is it not?
 

Sort of realates to this as well:

Does it not?

 

We also had the pleasure of having HH Dhirasanta dasa Goswami paying us a visit last month, he repeated that the ACB of the movement is: "you are not your body."

 

The realization of that  , although not the same as 'leaving your body ' at least expands awareness  from / beyond the body 

[Nungali]

7 hours ago, stirling said:

What tradition is this? What is the ultimate intention for this practice? 

 

Its a Bhakti Yoga practice - so 'union' .  or maybe even  'cultivating a non - dual awareness '   ?   

[stirling]

2 minutes ago, Nungali said:

Its a Bhakti Yoga practice - so 'union' .  or maybe even  'cultivating a non - dual awareness '   ?   

 

Probably. Still.

[Nungali]

A type of 'astral travel' used to be a common Hare Krishna  theme back when I got into it . 

 

 

I was young ... I was   WOW    ...... ( I was into SF ......  'You mean I can just meditate and do space travel  !?     )

 

[Nungali]

3 hours ago, Surya said:

Mhm, that has been a constant struggle for me as my mind is like the wind. During Jappa (chanting) and Kirtan («singing mantra) at the temple it becomes calm tho, it is wonderful.

 

Kirtan:

https://youtu.be/VP623hMbAIA?si=u2LX_5ce_oBXhSSw

 

That's because there are (in this regard ) two types of mind  ; the naturally still and the naturally active . of course no one  does not have part of the other ... but generally the mind is said to be active  ( air ... wind ....  constantly flowing around and moving ) .

 

This is why those practices help ;   if ya cant think of nothing , then just think of one thing . or get involved with one thing , if its the 'right thing; the mind will be satisfied and not searching and darting all over the place for 'what it should be doing ' . 

[Nungali]

19 minutes ago, stirling said:

 

I wouldn't voluntarily submit to an assisted process labelled "dying" without a clear idea of what that means in context. When you have more information about the process or intent, please share here what that might entail. 

 

 

I don't think he would either ... he said twice it isn't about that .  . . and I cant see the 'dying' label anywhere in his posts  .