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On 7/3/2019 at 10:45 PM, woogyboogy said:

The Shaolin Temple Europe is not officially recognized by the original chinese Shaolin Association/Temple - theyre kind of in a clinge. This pared with the fact that it's run by quite young monks, who apparently do some quite in depth and proper Qi Gong practice (as I could witness in their presence) makes it an interesting place to keep an eye on.

It is interesting that you noted the "clinge" - this seems common rather than the exception.

 

Also - were they actually monks - most from Shaolin are not monks (did not take vows etc).

 

On another note - they don't teach Qi Gong there to the students until after 5 years of Kung Fu - Qi Gong is considered high training.

Capacitor technology is buzzing pretty strong - lots of technologies are abuzz.- now that alternatives to combustion are past the wall of "that's not gonna happen" and with the excitement of the Elon Musk types out there shaking things up it is pretty exciting and optimistic. Do you think hydrogen fuel cells are going to become really viable soon?

https://interestingengineering.com/could-ultracapacitors-replace-batteries-in-future-electric-vehicles

https://energypost.eu/hydrogen-fuel-cell-cars-competitive-hydrogen-fuel-cell-expert/

I will be in Oshkosh for the Air Show in a couple of weeks - electric airplanes were popping up last year and I expect more large quads to show up this year, though I would like to see the Paris show and others abroad where electric vertical lift is moving ahead of American tech fast. China is really pressing to get smog under some control - so is India - they are both pushing new tech hard. Small percentages in either of those countries is often equal to the entire population of many countries combined.

 

Honda seems to be still investing in fuel cell tech - FedEx has gone electric on many big delivery trucks in our area (Northern Cal).

I use to have all electric forklifts in my manufacturing  warehouse / showroom - loved them over Propane or Gas. My scissor lifts and extension lifts were either electric or diesel - did not like the diesels other than the fact that they were cool and huge.

 

Work vans seem to be perfect for electric - generally short ranges and lots of sitting around - I know of several companies that have switched and love them - mainly - they love nearly zero down time which is always the biggest concern then fuel costs and practical things (and you want the drivers to like them),

 

My great aunt had an electric car for some 40 years.

https://www.curbed.com/2017/9/22/16346892/electric-car-history-fritchle

 

 

I have a somewhat mild concern about the electromagnetic fields of an electric car - I remember a friend who passed away was an anethesiologist and he was very concerned about the magnetic fields. 

 

Any good articles on that? - I can often see fields around computers thought they do not bother me - but I like long drives and it is a mild but real concern that I would look deeply at prior to a purchase of an all electric - and some hybrids as well.

33 minutes ago, Pilgrim said:

FYI I am a former Mercedes Technician.  I owned Toyota's for years some of my Favorites being the Celicas from the mid to late 80's they were excellent vehicles in every way.

 

As a former owner of a Prius I must caution you against the purchase. I purchased a 2008 Model Toyota corolla brand new it was a Lemon. Had to have Cams replaced in under 7,000 miles and that was only one of the many issues with that car.

 

The dealership and I went round and round on that and I was taking them to court over it but we settled on me receiving full compensation for the Lemon and taking the over $12,000.00 in Equity I had in the vehicle as a result of a substantial down payment and put it into the more expensive 2010 model Prius.

 

At first I was happy with the vehicle but after a few 4 hour trips across state I was convinced age was catching up with me or something because I was so tired after the trips.  When I traded it in it only had 16000 miles on it and was fully paid off. 

 

Within 16,000.00 miles not only did the batteries degrade quite a bit but the suspension and the strut towers were making all kinds of noises. Really not what I experienced with the earlier bullet proof Toyotas.

 

The ride is hard and you are low to the ground and feel every bump in the road. Just would hate to see you buy what I experienced. 

 

While I have no experience with Tesla if you can afford it, that would be the way I would go after my experiences with later model Toyotas and the prius in particular. 

 

If you service your own vehicles it is also a real bitch to change the oil  without a lift  you have to jack them up higher than what is safe crawl under them unfasten a belly pan made of plastic swing it out of the way and then the oil filter is like on a Mercedes just a shell with a wick and an O-Ring requires 10 FT Lbs of pressure only when tightening and take a specialty tool. If you overtighten expect a leak.

 

This is not the kind of vehicle I would trust to just any oil shop to change the oil either as it can appear to be turned off and suddenly the engine can start. Lowest rookie techs always get the oil changes, senior techs avoid them. Not a great combo.

 

Honda however as far as I know still is the premium Japanese Manufacturer and in my opinion having worked on many of them over the years in my Non Mercedes role they are very well engineered, true over the years they have made some major gaffs with timing belts and interference engines but I think most of that has passed by now.

Thanks for the advice - I've been leaning toward PriusV but have only test driven the Prius - Great to know some of the small stuff that can become big stuff as well.

 

I have actually assumed certain quality levels with the Toyota while the Tesla is actually something to inspect carefully as it is relatively new and has definitely had its share of poor fit and changing workmanship levels. Not to mention a few fires - and of course the price - and price is a concern though gas savings over electric is substantial as well as maintenance.

 

Many cab companies using Tesla and Prius report very very little maintenance and Tesla cab owners expect 300k or more on their investment as well as added fees for luxury brand. - not to mention a huge amount of hidden room.

 

Anyway - thanks for recommending that I take a closer look before making any choices in that direction.

(the Celica's were excellent)

(on my Honda Insight I immediately installed sound barrier on the floor and door panels - and then had the front seats foam carved to fit and eliminated a comfort problem - great little car in general but known to have uncomfortable front seats and many of the Toyota's and Honda's could use sound barrier - it was $1200 total for sound barrier and customized seats)

1 hour ago, Dynasty said:

 

I'm not a republican. 

 

And for your information, the EPA was created under Richard Nixon. A republican. 

Fully aware of that fact - "Republicans have at almost all levels done everything to prevent nearly anything sensible regarding energy, environment and climate".

 

One of several felon presidents - Republicans like Nixon rarely display any interest in a good and strong EPA and if you were to assume things - you would assume Democrats had invented the EPA and the Endangered Species Act - neither of which is true.

 

But Democrats certainly are the champions of both even if they are not the original writers - and remember - they had their own kids on the ground - and marchers in the streets - an EPA and an Endanger Species Act was coming to town one way or another.

3 minutes ago, Dynasty said:

 

And what the fuck does that have to do with electric cars?

Republicans have at almost all levels done everything to prevent nearly anything sensible regarding energy, environment and climate.

 

They have not in any way been supportive of Electric Cars - they have been supportive of corn gas when it suited their regional constituents regardless of the science - fracking - needless pipelines and coal. The most support has been and continues to be those who do not hate government and group participation in things other than military.

 

And apparently it hit a cord with you - I wonder why?

 

16 minutes ago, Dynasty said:

 

Only when battery tech reaches a certain point. For at least the past 30 years the holy grail of a battery has just been around the corner.

 

And those jobs won't go away, per se, they will be transferred over into the battery/electric car industry. Batteries will be re-built. Electric motors will need re-built. The government bureaucrats will figure out how and why electric cars will need annual testing. 

 

I both agree and disagree - One of the Holy Grails was to get to critical mass in terms of numbers and interest - we are there in spades.

 

Some jobs will be transferred - but the numbers will not transfer without large drops in needed skills and labor.

 

Contrary to popular anti government everything - most of the people thinking up this stuff do not do so for no reason - its not just to keep their government jobs - that is more of a military thing.

 

Smog testing had/has a real reason for existing - and WOW have they ever had a positive effect - in California they entirely changed all sorts of things and the USA is the leading exporter and leader world wide in emission controls and monitoring software and equipment. Wherever large cities exist pollution control is highly valued - in rural areas no tolerance for any sort of government oversight is highly valued - and of course rural areas tend to be the areas of highest welfare recipients. 

 

18 out of 20 Welfare States in the USA are long time Red States.

On 7/5/2019 at 2:36 PM, woogyboogy said:

 

Do teach your Qi Gong in the way to hold attention at the LDT at all times, or also to spread awareness in different parts of the body involved in the movement?

It is more general - for new students (those without a past in Traditional Yoga from India, meditation and other practices) breathing into the LDT is expressed as very desirable all the time - in or out of practice - as well as awareness in the LDT. 

 

However - the location of Awareness is also taught to be in centeredness if not in the LDT to try and be in the Central Axis and this is often reminded. Awareness in the Center of Head vs forward in the head or outside of the head - or Awareness in the Middle Dan Tien or Lower dan tien - along the axis always so if one drifts up to the head - be in the middle of the head in the Axis or in the whole axis at the same moment - it depends on the student. Drifting in ones awareness is not considered a problem - but in general where it is most desirable is effective in freeing up the student from too much concentration in the movement and more feeling of the movement.

 

The teaching as presented is far more tailored when specific to an individual - A student progresses in getting to fully feel a movement as though in the movement of tides:

 

there is incoming tide - slack tide - out going tide - slack tide

 

In some movements it feels like only incoming and out going - but in a great many it can be seen and felt that there is Inhale - then a leveling of the incoming and a spreading and then a very fine clear end to that and an out going Exhale - then a leveling of the outgoing and a spreading and then a very fine clear end to that and again an Inhale. 

 

Timing is also specifically altered often so the postures do not induce trance which is often the case in flowing regularize movements. Breath is sometimes very long and then in the same posture it may be shorter. I teach IN practice so this is not particularly a conscious teaching manipulation - from that standpoint I often do not hold the breath as long as I would be inclined or go as slow as I would be inclined so as not to "kill" my students or appear to be showing off - and the class is supposed to be only one hour but it is generally an hour an 10 or 15 minutes. If I were doing it privately it might go several hours.

 

Often students are reminded to  "grab the floor with your toes",   "breath lower dan tien",   "awareness lower dan tien",  "remember to take deep breaths"  or  "remember to breath" - this is about the extent of speaking during class other than "Inhale"  and  "Exhale"

 

At this time I am not teaching teachers or giving out certificates - I do not know the name of one posture - this may seem impossible to be a teacher and not know the names of the postures - but I was not interested in them and my master spoke no English other than a Very few words. When I looked at the names they were long and of no interest to me. With that said according to him is was told by a close longtime aid to him that I am the most advanced student he has ever had in Qi Gong - I was surprised to hear that - some of his long time students consider the names of the postures and "what they are for" very important - perhaps they are correct - I have never been very concerned about either - it is not the focus of what I teach.

 

What a posture "is for" is a moving target in Qi Gong - unless it is Medical Qi Gong - postures have vastly different effects on different people and this is always changing. Breath is changing and expanding - sensitivity is expanding and changing - energy is expanding and changing - my students are new each day.

Each day comes with different compressed rigidified patterns - some are continuous themes for some and others are quite bouyant - Qi Gong frees up and breaks up rigidified patterns - this is the core of what is taught.

 

All the rest will grow with no Doing necessary - 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Natural Gas does not have the same punch as gas but a curious thing - cars and trucks converted to Natural Gas / LPG last way longer - it is typical to get over 200k  and closer to 300k on many light to heavy trucks and vans.

 

The fuel cell idea took legs in large part because of the idea of a fueling station - (think easily taxed in a similar fashion to the way we do it now).

Governors liked the idea. 

 

Honda or Toyota (not sure which) mentioned something that was a good insider bit of info - that they were still going to concentrate on the hybrid models rather than all electric with the reason being that the cars would come at a more affordable price since the increasingly high cost of rare-earth battery technology was greatly reduced in hybrids and range was easily a non-issue.

 

Another thing not mentioned so far unless I overlooked something is that from the Electric perspective power is from centralized power plants that are monitored with relative ease - lets just say 200k electric cars per power plant (I have no idea if this is high or low) charging mostly at night which is the case and to be assumed. Thats One combustion location vs 200k individual moving combustion locations.

 

Money wasted on countless things such as smog testing, engine maintenance, oil changes - all sorts of things that will go by the way side or be greatly reduced. 

 

 

I only read the first complete page in this topic and without any comment on Steve or specifically on either side of regard for him - the original post is excellent.

 

It reminds me of the issue brought up in the movie The Karate Kid and the difference of a teaching style / approach vs another and the effect on the kids - while it was nice to read some of the posts that said that "we can each take what we will from our different teachers whether good or bad it does not really matter" - this falls flat in the face of what I have seen.

 

Students are very heavily effected by the teachers in very subtle ways and rarely are immune to a great many of the effects teachings inculcate unknowingly in them. Teachings often create walls - cross or block thresholds of insight - regard or completely skip and disregard humility - blunt force past the most precious insights and may entirely blow away extreme subtleties from ones presence.

 

Teachings may inculcate impossible perfect perfection - total regard for the little things and a belief in ones understanding of the cart far before the horse - or the other way around - teach the larger perspective and an assumed superiority with a "skip to the good stuff" and a bashing of the "mamby pamby blithering idiots" - These are both the rabbits way - a bit like the atheist and the fundamentalist - they are the same.

 

The younger the student the easier to inculcate VERY poor habits - false pointings - detours and hidden trauma.

 

EVERYONE thinks they are immune - and with one hand in your back pocket the blind lead the blind all day long.

 

The original post was germane to the Dao Bums in the most basic and visceral level:

Time and again we make assumptions based on our own identifications about those we know nothing what-so-ever about.

We always assume we are not caught up in a group of Siddhis and mind loops that have mesmerized us.

We "know" we are still in full practice and have not fallen asleep to "our accomplishments" - though we may long ago have succumbed to our favorite trances about our various identified "selves" and have gone quietly into the night of waking sleep.

 

Swear words and coarseness is NOT a sign one is any more alive than meekness coming from another is evidence that they are a fool or an idiot - or a wimp.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

13 minutes ago, dwai said:

I'll be in the bay area between 7/20 and 8/2. Let me see if I can find some time to stop by your class  too

Wow! - that would be great!

I can always create a private class if it is difficult to schedule - no charge - would be an excellent moment together.

 

If I had known you would be in town then I would have changed the dates!

 

I will keep 8/1 and 8/2 clear for you - not sure when we arrive back from the Oshkosh Air Show  https://www.eaa.org/en/airventure?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIv6__gqWe4wIVCL3sCh1tjwnbEAAYASAAEgLhc_D_BwE

where we also spend a week with my brother and his grandkids for a week in Minnesota as well.

If we need to meet the evening I arrive back that is fine with me if I get to shower!

Every Tuesday and Thursday

5:45 to 6:45

Class was free and live for about a month via zoom - I might resume that though it was a bit distracting because of the technical aspects.

 

I will be on vacation from July 16th to the end of the month.

 

Contact me ahead of time and we can have lunch - it would be great to meet you! (All Bums are welcome)

My schedule is open - if you wish to take in a class please show up at least 45 minutes prior to class since it will be your first time - it is useful to go over fine points. 

You can also look up "Practice Notes" at ShaolinMaster.org

 

Easy to contact me - ShaolinMaster.org or Monkwithfamily.org

 

 

 

 

I live in Alameda California and teach Qi Gong in the town of Berkeley not far away.

It is free

 

When teaching I am "in practice" and they are practicing with me. Generally I do not teach during class though I am aware and sometimes adjust a posture or remind them to breath into the LDT or grab the ground with their toes etc.  

I arrive an hour and a half prior to class in order to answer questions and prepare and I also stay after class for as long as students wish.

 

ShaolinMaster.org

 

I'm Deputy Director of the US Regional Department of Shaolin Fohanmen.

I teach yi jin Jing as taught to me by Master Yong Yao former elite grand master monk at Shaolin Temple. 

 

It is very powerful.

 

the class generally is 1 hour and 10 minutes.

Another reason our grids have actually been doing fine is that we have been radically reducing power consumption during the day from an industrial / commercial perspective.

 

Large facilities spend next to nothing on lighting compared to ten years ago.

 

Building insulation and roofing materials radically reduced heating and cooling costs over previous methods and specs.

 

The combustion engine Only made sense in the past and will Only make sense in the near future but increasingly less and less. 

 

Natural gas could make a temporary play for a few decades - that remains to be seen.

 

We should be able to overcome the rare earth concerns fairly soon.

Arnold Swarzenegger

is according to some “an electric sheep” 

 

He is totally pro electric and has converted hummers to electric.

We need to look around the corners - 

we are about to turn many corners on energy. 

 

Storage of energy completely changes the renewable game and it is happening fast.

 

3D printing will bring weight to strength ratio’s way way down while decreasing cost and materials.

 

One day War may not be our main reduction of wealth and we could easily afford infrastructure if we didn’t shit freight trains of money on it.

 

Corporate welfare - pharmaceutical support - pretending corporations are immortal people - the Affordability issue of Electric vehicles is a complete non issue. 

 

And our capacities as they exist can easily handle a huge rise in nighttime capacity use - it’s practically on idle during the night.

 

As battery capacities increase charging while sleeping is easier and easier.

 

Commercial use could swap battery packs.

 

It will kill much of the auto repair industry - but we did not prop up buggy whips.

 

I embrace the changes that are arriving.

Sadly a whole lot of people pine for the glory days (which did not exist).

We’ve been driving on Dinosaurs 🦖 slim for a long time. Slave labor and a whole lot more.

 

Things are about to get a whole lot brighter - just a few very weak leaders running amuck at the moment - very very weak (some fools call the strong men).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It is interesting - the Prius has one of the highest if not the highest owner satisfaction levels in automotive history.

 

For years it held the title of best resale value.

 

I’ve never heard of shoddy anything on a relatively recent Honda or Toyota.

 

I have a Honda Insight and enjoy it - and the fact that nothing ever seems to go wrong with it - our BMW dropped off a cliff in value and cost a small fortune in repairs each year - not one Mercedes or BMW is in the top 20 in reliability - all the top ten are Honda and Toyota and one or two Fords.

 

Everyone can have a lemon and certainly some cars/trucks don’t fit a life style.

 

I enjoy my Jeep Diesel - But the Insight is lowered and has stiff springs - love it in the turns (though it’s a pig).

 

I’ve been looking at a Prius - more concerned about the electromagnetic’s and definitely not workmanship. 

 

Wife is looking at Tesla - they are produced only 30 minutes away from us.

11 hours ago, Pilgrim said:

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#1. The first problem is that you will miss the very reason your were born in the first place and that reason is to experience a Human Lifetime.

 

#2. You will not have many to keep you company so you will have created a situation for yourself where you are bliss and everyone you interact with is mundane.

 

#3. You will come to view the profane world for what it is and can loose yourself in all that underpins it and creates it.

 

In short escapism of the highest order and magnitude.

This is not from anyone who has achieved Awakening on anything approaching abidance - but rather from later post it is obvious that a fairly hi psychic level has been achieved on some levels.

 

These levels will easily trick one on a whole spectrum of extraordinary insights and powers. And massive kundalini surges can certainly be impressive - and it is clear to anyone that has had even fairly simple massive surges that the energy is beyond even the slightest notion of what had been imagined beforehand.

 

Oneness is below Awakening in a sense - it can happen prior or after. 

 

If if it happens prior one may think Awakening has taken place - if Awakening then takes place it will be apparent that much had not happened that was assumed.

 

In Abiding Awakening it is practically the norm to stop practice all together - at least for several years.

And by then many have begun to teach and progress slows further - but that is not to say the teaching is not excellent nor the state in movement to Enlightenment.

 

And saying “progress slows further” is both correct and absurdly incorrect - if Abidance deepens massive unfolding will take place.

 

The Awakening May deepen in certain areas or over all - residuals May continue to fall away or not and subtle bodies will acclimate.

 

Continued active passive cultivation can continue endlessly.

 

In any of the conceptual 4 “hidden contents” above - anyone in an Abiding Awakened State would see them as wooden constructs devoid of sight obscured in the illusion.

 

Why would one cultivate “after arriving”?

 

the “arrival is endless - the Light is beyond light - the love is beyond love - the power beyond power.

 

Kundalini pumps through the heart - and well into fields far above and below - and the expansion does not stop year upon year - and it’s normal - sustained.

 

And nothing in the books does little more that to put a hue to what takes place - but concept and even Abiding Awakened Presence does not foretell what will unfold. 

 

Any surprise or newness of siddhis falls away - they are in every breath - a happening that is Divine Essence.

 

 

 

 

 

Nice article - what it does not yet address is the difficulty of really beginning or moving forward with spiritual pursuit late in life.

 

It illustrates well a myriad of things that can be seen in a life over time.

And the significant difficulties presented and skims very lightly over the difficulty (to no fault of the article otherwise it would be a book). 

 

The difficulties in later life are immense - though it is true many aspects such as money may no longer be a burden (or they may be big scary burdens).

 

But the “crystallized” mind is often so like a brick that religion, beliefs and habituations are like lead walls.

Ears cannot (and refuse to) hear and eyes cannot see.

 

In any case - a breath of fresh air to the readers - lots of interesting and well presented info.

7 hours ago, dawei said:

 

In Medical Qigong I was taught, you never absorb another's energy... you can pull it out but then shake it off; you can let it flow through and out of you.  The three principles were:  Purge, tonify, regulate.  Just pulling it out can leave a void or imbalance behind.   Leaving it now in you can cause an imbalance too.

 

In more recent methods instead,  while there may be an energy loop of transmitting and receiving, there is nothing about absortion.  I might feel a throat issue on another but I am not intentionally taking it on but sensing it.  Instead, I would bring them to an expanded space where their energy can release more freely.   

I agree - though the most profound healer I ever worked with brought the others energy up his arm and diverted it into his feces or urine while doing a specific hard breathing sound.

 

He ask nothing or very little and the healings were incredibly palpable, specific and immediate.

 

If anyone recognizes what I am talking about - this specific type of healing please let me know. I was young when this happened and did not fully appreciate just how incredible it was until after he left to study in Hawaii with some Kahuna.

 

In his method he would place a his right hand on the body and send energy and the left hand was placed on another part and it took in energy and that was then diverted downward in the completed circuit. He would ask the patient to breath as well though just regularly.

 

 

Freeform has brought up an important point that is far more real than would generally be assumed -but it does bring with it real concerns:

 

Great “physical changes” take place - they are on going and incredibly expansive and do not from my experience end in any way. Awakening and Abiding In Awakening however massive the Awakening - and aside from residuals continuing to fall away - the subtle body expanses can and will continue far beyond already ridiculous levels both exquisitely subtle and not at all subtle.

They may subside for time - mass portions of many of the more gross physical changes/fixtures may completely fall away - but if “One continues” massive continuous subtle body expanses continue relentlessly in impossible palpable specific ways.

 

Concern as to judgement of these things and at what point judgement is beyond one’s teacher or delusion has set upon an Awareness - this is tough stuff and yet good to examine.

 

—-

 

The “heart” con is as easy as the “head” con - and for that matter we should include the “sex” con:

 

I have referred to them as cons because each is easy to overtake one’s progress and con one into its trappings of delusion.

 

The heart con is one if the most subtle cons - and each con mentioned has unmistakable merit - it is loss in the merits that is the con.

And the merits at the very highest levels can me mesmerizing while in complete clarity - (and this is what is so “devastating”)

 

In both the Sex con and the Heart con we have “transmission” - it is incontrovertible - palpable - recognizable - physically and subtle body powerful. Lofty in comparison to nearly anything comprehensible from a transmission standpoint and playing with it and empowerment within it is to often lose oneself to it/the teaching of it/ assumptions in it / position in it/ a winking knowing that one is IN God with it/ .........

 

And nothing is easier than to find complete blessing in these findings and from those to whom you use transmission.

 

In the Heart con we find four general levels - the lower- the Psychic - the Oneness and the Awakened.

 

The Oneness and Awakened May occur together - the Awakened is the higher.

 

Above these general levels is that which is more akin to what Enlightenment is pointing at - it is incorporation of head, heart and root - in stillness with all “assets” in Light.

 

This is Central Channel - One Channel - One Axis

 

One Axis is a far better image experience vs “channel”.

 

It will evolve as well - but changes decisively as fusions of main channels dissolve and become one.

 

Massive changes physically within the gross and subtle bodies to the head then heart and then again head - once root has been established.

 

The Central Axis becomes by far the inclusive All for the previously divided main centers - at which point  Awareness along the Axis is the Awareness of all centers without localization unless one wishes to expand particularly within one (but no longer compartmentalized to its reduction or sublime natures).

 

Stillness is non-inertia potential - it is endless Compassion - Never Ending Acceptance.

 

it is heat that is cool and cool that is not cold.

 

 

3 hours ago, C T said:

Do not search for the truth;
only cease to cherish opinions

😎🙏

There are several reasons to reconsider meditation while lying down:

 

you may may wish to look at lying down practice as just that - a practice rather than meditation.

 

In lying practice it is easy to move into several planes and typically in trance ( nearly always ).

It is easy to sync with planetary wave lengths and also acclimate to the astral planes as one is used to doing both in sleep.

 

it is also setting oneself into the possible habit of falling asleep during what you might also be calling Meditation while it is not Meditation and associations with this concept will be muddled possibly for a very long time.

 

The upright positions - of the spine - whether sitting on the floor or seated or standing are far better for all aspects of getting too Meditation.

In Presence - Divine Natural Essence - one is in meditation - and this does typically take years to find/become in practice or otherwise.

 

When meditating establish your awareness in the center of the head and not forward. This will reduce or eliminate boredom and restlessness and is the “proper” seat of high subtle body development (or full central axis awareness/Presence which is a broader embodiment).

 

The later is a reference to the central axis from Perinium  to  just back from top of head very slightly (which is why you tuck in your chin ever so slightly in meditation posture.

 

Lying down practices should be considered as different from a meditation posture and in discussions of one’s experiences “meditating” - or at the very least if you are speaking with someone about your meditation experiences you need to make clear at the outset that you lay down when “meditating”. So that if asked what type of meditation you do your reply is not just Vipassana with the exclusion of “while laying down”.