Antares

WHAT IS REALIZATION in your opinion? You say about Buddhist understanding of it. That's fine. No problem for me you have your own opinion Okay, what lineage IN THE WEST do they represent now? I would like to talk to a person from that lineage personally but not to someone who only saw walking master

If you mean this one https://yang-sheng.com/?p=859 I would say his hands position is wrong. As for seated practices I wrote about it here many times.

It is not Dao yet. But might be state of Wuji. For authentic Daoist methods this is a requirement for further cultivation. In majority of Buddhist schools this is the point where they stop practicing. But as I said earlier in some authentic Tibetan schools they have authentic tummo that is not what you can find in western schools which in fact are commercial projects where one can get some benefits too. So I would not say they are completely wrong It depends what you are looking for

I believe Daoist and Buddhist practitioners see the DDJ differently. But correct translation of it matters. The problem is that was written in old Chinese that far not every modern person can understand. Also I can not say that all these modern versions of Dzogchen, Cha'n and Zen are the same. Non - dual state can be the same but what matters is what you do next after it has been achieved. Some people tend to think that all teachings are the same. In fact they are not. I am not sure what you mean by great realization. You said Buddhists understand everything they do. That is why I asked you about your understanding of Dharmakaya and Sambhogakaya. I would say your understanding of it does not fit Daoists masters understanding of it - that is what I said. Buddhist people only say that they reach "liberation" but in fact...

The most important thing is HOW you do it. In YXP they actually do "warm up" before they do 5 organs exercises. That warm up is part of daogong system that is comprised of a few IMA exercises and if you do it right it is good way to activate your channels before you do anything else. Also there are few more secret exercises from neigong/XingYi some instructors taught which are very good to mesh with anything else you do. Nothing wrong with channels activation if it is done correctly. But if you take some random exercises from other systems and mesh them randomly there can be conflict of course. Correct warm up is quite important but it is not easy to find it, in most cases people do it incorrectly and also they add other exercises not having understanding of what they do

That's the final goal of it and this is fine but devil is in details. Daoist methods don't use visualizations bcoz it can't produce zhen qi. Also how can one see the chakra and lotus there if all channels are not active yet? Just concentration on points of physical body can create blocks in channels and even lead to deviations Also original conversation was about Xing AND Ming. And it was not me who brought up TWR theory here. Change my gender? Meet fake Buddha? Definitely nothing to do with Daoist methods, I am sorry

I recall how I tried to discuss some Daoist concepts there, and they told me that I had to stop writing about it, otherwise, I would be banned. So now I'm trying to avoid that section of the forum

Here we have Buddhist section on the TDB. I personally do not go there and do not impose my ideas there, why so many Buddhist/Esoteric people come to this discussion and impose their ideas here?

How can this mental masturbation (lucid dreaming) produce Zhen Qi? More over that, that is direct path to the Yin reality and entities possession