gatito

11 hours ago, chino said:

Hi, greetings from Auckland. 

 

I read about this site after searching up John Chang. I am interested in the path of self mastery/The Great Work/kung fu. I hope to learn from you and support you. 

 

Thanks

Incidentally, how are you finding Auckland during lockdown?

Working from home ATM?

3 minutes ago, ralis said:

I have been on here for years and will speak out against this forum being overrun. Whether it is MoPai, alt-right, and all the problems this site went through for years with right wing extremists. Obviously, you don’t know the recent history of such egregious problems.

 

Perhaps start a thread of your own devoted to that topic (instead of riding this particular hobbyhorse incessantly on every newbie thread that mentions the term MoPai)?

Just now, ralis said:

 

Here are the rules as posted years ago which includes spamming. You reported me for that? Have you read the MoPai threads over the years on this forum and see that it lead to nowhere?

 

 

Thanks ralis!

I'm now going to report you for spamming, as well.

Just now, ralis said:

 

MoPai freaks are guilty of spamming to the nth degree.

The use of the term "MoPai freaks" appears to be a personal insult - reported.

Just put ralis on ignore @chino, you'll find that function in your control panel settings.

10 hours ago, chino said:

Hi, greetings from Auckland. 

 

I read about this site after searching up John Chang. I am interested in the path of self mastery/The Great Work/kung fu. I hope to learn from you and support you. 

 

Thanks

 

Welcome!

Enjoy your sojourn here.

May it be both Happy and Peaceful!

1 hour ago, ralis said:

 

If you are looking to discuss MoPai then please reconsider your reason for being here.

Is there something either in the rules or in the Founding Principles that places a moratorium upon MoPai discussion?

2 minutes ago, freeform said:

 

Ok.

You're welcome. :-)

1 minute ago, freeform said:

 

I probably did, yes

 

I wasn't sure who the 'he' that you were referring to is - Mikey or old oil arms...

 

Are you saying - what if I was wrong, and in fact, Mikey is super well-developed and I'm wrong?

 

No.

1 minute ago, freeform said:

Impressive form - but developing a body like this, essentially stops any possibility of development in the internal arts!

You seem to have misunderstood my response - entirely...

4 minutes ago, freeform said:

 

Not trolling - I promise.

 

Just a funny example of someone hacking their body to get the results he wants. (He injected oil into his arms)

 

It's funny, gross and tragic - but it highlights how 'what we want' is often so completely delusional and based on a very narrow perspective - and we don't even realise it.

 

On the other hand, maybe he looks like this IRL:

and you don't realise it..? :-)

26 minutes ago, Mikey_Power_Up said:

@gatito I think they experience overload because they don't spin enough time with grounding techniques and reversing the flow. It is mostly along one circuit path. 

I have a hunch with their "deep meditation" that most end up 'placing' the mantra in the head and overcharge an already upper center collection of practices, then take that on top of  the self-pacing which is okay, but ppl would be better served by balancing the 'energy' they build. 

With that said, I actually like AYP (politics and deficiencies aside) it is(was) one of the only open source systems  that got results for me. 

I've no idea why they get "overload" but, as I inferred, TM isn't a "legitimate" practice.

However, I'm not going to hammer this issue further than that with you, especially as there's now lot's of info. out there that's easily accessible for anyone to do their due diligence about both AYP and TM.

Furthermore, if you "got results" that worked for you, W(ho)TF am I (or anyone else) to nay-say your "results". :-)

Just now, freeform said:

 

I agree with most of your post, but the above is a weird addition...

 

Teachers must eat, pay rent and clothe themselves like anyone else. And whether that comes to them from institutionalised systems like being a monk and collecting alms or directly through a teacher-student relationship - there is always some exchange. And if there isn't - then, in my opinion, its a parasitic relationship.

 

This could be a very interesting discussion (and a very useful discussion) because this issue comes up time after time and it will certainly help me to clarify my position on the matter (even it's of no usewhatsover  to any others :-)).

I'll ponder upon it and return with my thoughts in a couple of days by starting a separate thread.

AYP is based on Transcendental "Mediation", a technique that is both nonsensical and potentially extremely harmful, as evidenced by what they call "overload". Couple TM with unbalanced pranayama like AYP's so-called "Spinal Breathing Pranayama" and its a recipe for potential disaster.

In contrast with TM and AYP, genuine meditation can be practiced for a dozen or more hours continuously for days or even weeks with extremely beneficial effects. To learn such practices you'll probably need to find an expert in them (and no genuine expert in such practices will charge anyone a cent for passing-on such techniques). For the classical historic example, the Buddha didn't hawk Liberation in the marketplace like some tawdry merchant.

9 hours ago, Mikey_Power_Up said:

Is there some sort of karmic goodwill with only using techniques from teachers you have paid to learn from?

Without knowing the specifics, it's impossible to answer the question in detail.

Generally, many people purloin open secrets and then set up their stalls, attempting to market tawdry trinkets and baubles cobbled together from such open secrets as though they have exclusive access to the Truth.

You'll sometimes even see hawkers of techniques based upon purloined open secrets screaming about infringements of what they may even believe are their copyrights.

The Truth is eternal, open and both literally and metaphorically priceless.

It is neither some whore nor some gigolo to be bought or sold.

6 minutes ago, gatito said:

 

We can all be like that Steve.

 

Drop me a PM if you want to setup a VoIP call.

 

By "we" I mean to signify all human beings. :-)

4 minutes ago, steve said:

It most certainly would.

I can be a bit literal, even naive at times.

👶🏻

We can all be like that Steve.

Drop me a PM if you want to setup a VoIP call.

7 minutes ago, Apech said:

And ensure that Apech uses the cat-flap and/or cleans out his litter tray regularly.

Of course, the combination of this:

and this:

in the same post is intended to indicate minor and  light-hearted irony.

Still confused? :-)

3 minutes ago, steve said:

Now I’m confused,

Perhaps it would be clearer if I use this:

if I'm being sarcastic?

1 minute ago, steve said:

Now I’m confused,

I thought I now have your mandate to speak for everyone...

🥳

Go for it if you want. 

1 minute ago, steve said:

 

Perhaps

 

I cannot provide any further evidence in writing but, if  you want to VoIP, you'll hear the evidence in my voice.

Just now, steve said:

 

Maybe it’ll even eliminate all sarcasm!

 

Speak for yourself...

Just now, steve said:

 

What is the point of so much projection and animosity? 

 

You're misreading the situation Steve.

Just because you're feeling those emotions yourself, it certainly doesn't signify that I'm feeling them myself (or projecting them - whatever that actually means).

55 minutes ago, steve said:

Bringing some moderation back will help.

 

Hopefully, it will stamp-out rule infraction entirely.

1 minute ago, steve said:

 

We refers to the DaoBums community as a whole.

 

Gr8!

In future, I can take it that when you use "we", you'll be referring to yourself as representing the entire membership of this forum in general.

Thanks for clarifying.