Goldleaf

Hi daobums, Again I implore your help. I was sleeping well, but then something happened in the room, I started getting severe reactions - dry, bloodshot eyes, nightmares, wet dreams, even though in the rest of my daily life I try to live it with my health in mind. So I took the mattress out and didn't get those reactions. Unfortunately, without the mattress I sleep even worse since I am unsupported. I am beginnning to feel hopeless. How can I figure out what it is I am reacting to, and then, how can I deal with it? (Do I need to wear industrial gas masks while sleeping lol). I am sick of watching my life go by while I struggle with unrestful sleep every day, walking around like a zombie. I have tried many things: visit doctor, blood test, using air-cleaning pot plants, etc. I feel I am simply running out of things to try, and/or don't have the resources to try them. Why do we not have the friggin technology in almost the year 2020 to allow our fellow man to sleep well? On average 3.5 million people a year die as a direct result of indoor air pollution, according to the WHO. We should feel refreshed after spending time indoors, not fuken cancerous and sick. I swear I would make a business creating healthy, proper, inexpensive breathing masks for people to live and sleep, its a joke that we don';t have clean air and it makes me angry. If anyone is interested in helping me with getting this business started, I will drive it all the way, I will help heal our fellow man I just need your backing. Air quality indoor and outdoor is only getting worse in the future. Every human being should have access to clean air, clean water, and clean food. No compromise. Its time for a change. Regards GL

Rideforever, thanks but to be honest, since doing all the blood tests, sleep study, allergy test, visit naturopath... I have come to believe the major issue is environmental. That doesn't mean I want to dismiss internal aspects. If I was healthier, doing yoga, could stop overthinking at will, was getting the reported benefits from my daily chi kung, and not as sensitive to chemicals as I probably am...then I have no doubt this would help. But the fact that I have had amazing sleeps just after moving to a new house and new mattress (literally amazing, I had girls stare at me as they walked past), what else can I believe but it is the environment? Maybe I just need to air my mattress every two or three days. I will try that and update. gl

Everything, that is the funniest thing I have ever read. I was laughing so hard my stomach hurt. Thanks

Thanks kind daobums. \Can't open a window, it drops to freezing temps at night. I've seen a doctor, done a sleep study, I don't have sleep apnea. Done blood tests, I don't have any diseases or allergies as far I know. Slept a little better last night, don't feel as frantic. I had dreams. If I could just understand, why some times I have good sleep and sometimes horrid (like when I wrote my first post), I could have some control over it. I even lost my job thanks to unreliable sleep lol. And how the f*ck does it change so easily, its so volatile. Anyway, perhaps a part of me secretely hoped that someone here would have some near-psychic insight into my problems and/or have some relevant experience with it, and I apologise to all you Dao Bums for approaching it this way. I have at least made progress since a decade ago when this first happened, and I am determined to keep posting any new insights I have for posterity. gl

Yes it could be, but honestly, after sleeping so amazingly well in this current place I thought I had made it. Even with my doubts at first about sleep I still slept well. I don't mean to bother this forum. I am just really tired and appreciate a bit of extra help. I am so tired I cannot relax lol.

Good point, the mind is powerful. But the thing is, I wasn't thinking about it much before the bad sleeps begun happening. It just crept in.

Hi everyone, I previously posted how I bought a latex layer for my mattress and that solved my not-nice sleep problem..until I moved house. But at least my sleep now is nowhere near to how bad it was before. No bloody nose or painful diarrhea. In this new house, I have struggled to have a good sleep. I feel scared instead of confident, feel like hiding instead of taking on challenges. The difference between sleeps is so vast!! I don't expect that anyone will know how to help me with this, especially given all I have tried and learnt. But I hope at least you guys can help me gain some clarity about what to try / not try. My gut instinct is that its an intolerance or allergy of some kind to the new room. Once I leave the house for the day, I clear my nose a few times and feel like my throat is clogged with phlegm. The room itself doesn't have a smell, but then again I should be able to smell something in the room shouldn't I?? I vacuum and clean my sheets regularly. The great advice you guys gave me before about not taking things too seriously has helped: i'm now doing volunteering twice a week and a yoga class and it feels great. the days I do yoga I feel a bit more "nicely exhausted" and it might help me fall asleep quicker , but sleep quality is the issue. I also went to a sleep study and had electrodes and I don't have sleep apnea. My only other concern is that maybe these years of poor sleep, and past years of drugs and sex, plus overthinking and negative attitudes, have eroded my health so much that even a friggin molecule of dust might cause my body concern. I sincerely hope not. My acupuncturist says I am yin-deficient but he never says to what extent, but I know one thing: whenever I do acupuncture I feel deeply exhausted. (And no have sex drive to speak of even though relatively young). So the deep concern I have is that how can I restore my yin to strengthen my Wei Qi if I have trouble sleeping well in the first place. I welcome all thoughts, however small. I will compile these ideas plus the ideas from my last desperate thread on sleep and then distil them into another post and lets help many people who have or will have sleep problems.

Excellent, thank you.

Thanks so much for sharing @silent thunder. This is your home sleep setup? If you don't mind, Aren't you concerned you roll around during sleep? Doesn't the setup look much different in the morning? Ta

If you don't mind, how did you come to realise these things? I find it hard enough to drag my real self away from my endless intellectualizing for more than asingle moment. Did you ever struggle to go beyond your thoughts and if so what did you do to help separate yourself from them? Cheers GL

I am sure there are already technologies avaialble to clean both the air and seas. Bottom line is that those things will destroy the oil business which means less money for those elite greedy few at the top. Hence I believe it starts with each person finding and feeling happiness in their lives. When we are happy greed is not necessary. The war and conflicts that rages in the world will end. But the war inside a human being, can go on for their whole life and not be resolved. Unresolved human beings are the biggest cause of the worlds problems, regardless of population.

I've learnt tonnes of stuff. But whether I implement it, is another matter... The best thing for me of daobums is feeling supported when I ask a question respectfully about a relevant topic. I hope that the "elder" daobums stick around many more years to share their unique wisdom that this current generation often does not have the privelege to learn. And hope that the daobum newcomers don't be shy to share their stories and struggles, because doing so not only helps others but helps yourself. GL

Still eagerly awaiting pics. (Of the mattress set up. Not your wife.) XP

Thanks for sharing this, wonderful info. (And hey, maybe you have lived in a male body in a previous lifetime ) Yet I noticed you never mentioned what mattress helps you have the best sleep? Yeah interesting you mention army sleeping since I recently read a book by Bear Gryllis where he says, he was so tired once that he fell asleep while walking. (...and dreamt he fell off a cliff !!!) I've had a look but can't seem to find a high quality coconut mattress. I've find hybrid mattress of coconut / latex / spring, etc., but that's it. I'll keep looking.

Doesn't that cause neck blockages? Your neck is twisted to the side while the rest of your body is basically face-down? I've googled the answer to this but as always, the first bunch of results I get are stupid Western medical sites which offer me numbers rather than first-hand experience. Having said that I just read about sleeping face down benefits. https://medium.com/@drstephanie/this-one-sleep-position-may-be-destroying-your-health-477f351e9b44 This wonderful and gorgeous chiropractor writes an interesting article about it. (She also writes how women make better leaders because of the way their brains are wired compared to men, and that women need twice as much sex as men. Good news for women and women's lib, bad news for daobums who overvalue semen retention XD)

As long as you don't do it too often if you don't mind me sayin'. A loved one I know has been doing this, every night for most of his/her life, and they look so weak and their brain is slow and fuddled, I feel sorry for them. I read a good article which I can't find now that long-term marijuana use drains the Lung Qi and then eventually the Yin Qi chronically. Apparently if you reach a point where you feel like you are "swimming underwater", you have gone too far with your blazin'. The danger of weed is that it lets you down easy. You don't actually realise how much damage is done until you stop, and the drug is out of your system for awhile, and you can think clear again. Why not try a hot cup of organic decaf coffee for your drug of choice. Besides, nature, food, a good loving relationship, these are much, much better drugs, than weed, coke, or E, could ever be (and i've tried 'em all...)

Hi Rodeforever, Awesome post you made on page 2. But with the above I am not sure it does mean this. Maybe they did understand their own realisation, but its just that others were not open and willing enough to understand... Its like, how do you tell a self-absorbed person they are self-absorbed?? In chi-kung terms it is called a (huge) mental blockage. It is only when you remove the blockage, that you realise it is was there in the way. And there is a LOT in the way for most of us... Cheers GL

Thanks Jeff, I PM'd you about this since I don't want to hijack this thread. But in the interest of helping others I realised it may be better to post your answer publicly, feel free. Cheers GL

Hi Apech, Do you practice lucid dreaming? How was it helped you in your life? Do you still get a good night's sleep? Cheers Gl

Hi Immortal4life, Sorry to hijack your thread but I couldn't PM you, I have had sleep problems. Your post about how to phrase an affirmation opened my eyes that maybe my sleep affirmations are not phrased correctly. If it suits I would like to humbly ask you how to best phrase what I want to do. What I want to do is have my unconscious tell me how to have the best nights sleep. Best mattress, best internal health, best nighttime ritual. So far I am just saying "I will have the best nights sleep, every night and my unconscious will tell me how". Thanks mate and thanks for this post. Please also let us know your lucid dreaming goes.

Hi there, please imagine the following. You have a health issue. You are also not sleeping well, reacting to something in the room. You try various methods and of course you try cleaning the room, using potplants, himalayan salt-lamp, etc. But still you do'nt sleep well and gradually your health declines to where you now wake feeling angry and have painful irregular bowel movements. Similarly, you now feel like you are in the best possible position to maek great stride in the area of health and healing others. You are learning so much about diet, self-health, chi kuing, chinese medicine, quieting the mind, it enriches your daily life. But at the same time, there is this thing in the room that is affecting your health in a violent way {you are unable to sleep in another room and do not have the funds to move}. You want to look into alternatives: tents {too flimsy}, yurts {too expensive}, futons {too hard for your lean frame}. So feeling cornered and overwhelmed, yet at the same time like you want to be a flower in full bloom, would you not start to question God?? I don't want to get into religion in any way, but I cannot help but wonder why now?? It makes feel like giving up, even though I will not ever give up, there's too much to live for. But some hope would really help right now I feel so alone with this thanks

Like, why do politicians get away with so much, when there are so many of us who can do something now (and we are educated)? How is it that we still can't explain how some aspects of nature work, (maybe because we don't include chi?) Such as how do birds follow the leader so quickly to stay in perfect formation? Finally, why is it that I still haven't had a nice sleep, despite different beds? I wake up feeling like my back is shredded. I am tired all the time and in spite of being the most aware and capable person I have ever been, am slowly losing the will to go on.

Sorry to necro and I'm sure you've found your answers to this but in the interest of posterity I will add, why not trying standing and allowing the sensations occur, in a form of spontaneous nei gong or chi flow? This is what I am taught with our chi kung - that it is the chi flow that brings the benefit to your body.

Did he also teach you how to paint the fence, and wax his car??

So many wonderful replies. Thanks to each of you. I can't remember who suggested it (I think a couple of you), but whoever suggested going to bed at 9pm, it worked for me last night, thanks so much. Finger crossed. I actually slept from 9pm to7.30pm. Maybe I need more sleep at the moment than most others. And i'm ok with that (too much drugs and overindulgence in solo sexual practices when younger). Rideforever, you're preaching to the choir with your enlightening post, but I have to subtly disagree with you with the above statement. I think caring IS innate, its just that we have chosen to let things like greed and lust override it. When I read the above about war famine childhood cruetly I instantly thought - greed. Taking it even deeper, I think it comes from us currently not being happy or peaceful as a human race. There have been civilisations that existed where the majority of people were in peace, and they flourished, and many advancements occured. We need this now more than ever, but ...