goonis38

I'M BAAAACK!!!!!!!!!

Hi there,

This just breaks my heart. I am so so sorry for you, and your sweet boy... I have a nine year old daughter,one and only, I will be watching. Thank you for your courage at this time, to think of others and warn them.

Love to you, and your family...

Take care, Melanie

Your previous submissions sound like a different person compared to the apparently new you? Granted, I may have had some of that coming in some way or another, which btw. I have more or less mentioned once or twice in passing, I just forgot for awhile that, "hell hath no fury that matches a woman's scorn". (or something like that)

 

Blasto and I (and perhaps a couple of others) have had some differences but nothing unbreachable I believe,

Frankly, and if you ever want to - I don't mind trying to talk, or say nothing to me which is obviously your choice. For what it's worth I have been to where the sun don't shine, or the stars, or the moon, and the horror where souls scream and weep without voices, and I have also been in the other direction where things are more workable and amendable.

 

Namaskar

Don't hold your breath on wanting your advice anytime soon... Things are not workable and amendable here... Fuck Taoism!! Hail Common Fuck'n sense!!! Melanie

whoah....

 

One lesson that Taoism makes clear is that we are all involved in a vast process, a cycle between being and non-being, and that we are obliged to consider how our behavior can effect the behavior of others. Since this is a forum that deals in the currency of written communication, we are limited to the legitimate criticism of each other's ideas, not our personhood. In a culture where most people live in their heads and cannot distinguish between their thoughts and their selves, making this distinction can be difficult.

 

I'm on record as someone who has no qualms about leveling fierce attacks on poorly constructed ideas, and of course I get defensive when my ideas are treated in kind, but personal attacks are usually a sign of an empty quiver. We are responsible for the quality of our ideas and our ability to express them clearly in writing and must accept due criticism when we fail to uphold this simple standard. Barring that, the best defense is a strong offense; good reading and writing habits will make you a stronger thinker.

An empty quiver perhaps? Well I'm slowly reloading it thanks to pretentious ex-hall monitor douche's such as yourself... I live in the real world working my ass off getting shit done, not sitting in some coffee shop talking about how to get things done instead of action... Take what you think as intellect(mindless babble) and shove it up your ass...Melanie

You've got to be kidding. For months now you've contributed nothing of any substance to the subjects at hand, save for the endless stream of quotations, however inspiring, that could only be characterized as tenously related to Taoism. When you do see fit to contribute your own thoughts, they are shrouded in an impenetrable fog of fuzzy thinking, sloppy writing, and flat out silliness.

 

Now a newcomer shows up who is, by obvious criteria, unschooled in this subject matter, perhaps deeply so, but hungry for knowledge nevertheless, and you've suddenly become a member of the warrior class, the forum's new voice of discernment?

 

Give it a rest, why don't you.

Lol Blasto, love it...

Do you see what you are doing gal...? There is no "kinder than thou" need to dismiss people you are now seeing as "negative" by posting certain parts of the message above, a message (or parts of) which you could have sent via a pm to Junbao or anyone else that you prefer or hope to console with. Thus recognize your own form of negative and deal with it. Btw, if you feel or think it gets "negative" in here then imo and for what it's worth you are grossly unprepared to deal with the possible problems of the physic stuff (like obe/projection, levitation, 3rd eye openings, spirits, etc...) that you say you are seeking and or involved with.

 

Good luck Mel,

Namaskar

Om

Listen here 3bob, Namaskar, Om

I am no gal, surly not to you. You are a nut case, and a bug. You keep at me for some reason. Just leave me alone. I have no use for your negativity... So go take it to another place that enjoys it. Because it seems to me. No one like it.

And another thing, you don't know jack shit... So stick that in your pip and smoke on it... And take your good luck and stick it where the sun don't shine... Don't ever talk to me again. You are a total ass, and it looks like everyone notices, but you... Melanie

Practices are good. I think you learn them by doing them. They teach you. No requirement IMO and small experience to fold yourself into a group. I guess being thankful to those who gave you the practice is a nice (the right?) thing to do. If you can help yourself and other people, I think that is a nice (the right?) thing to do.

 

I personally would not hang with a group as I know/fear the dark nights and other things could give people who might not otherwise legitimately get a let in, way too much sway over my own path.

 

However, this is not IMO the same as seeking support and help when practice issues come up (and I think they almost always do, unless there's someone here who can say otherwise.) Strangely IME, when things have come up, there's always been help of some kind (and often in the form of someone).

 

Hey Kate,

Thanks your always great, Are you going to moderate? I was wondering, I saw that post on Sean looking for a moderator. You sure would be good at it, as you are not harsh acting... And are always positive...

No worries. Just looking here and there. I will get the good from all that I can. Most everyone has been very helpful. And I appreciate it. Sometimes people have spiritual growth with out asking for it, as in my case. So I am just looking for answers... And i appreciate the people with kind concern. There only seems to be one trouble maker. And I will finally address him, and only once.

Thanks for all advise Kate, you always have something helpful to say... Ok take care Melanie

Hi Mel,

 

I don't think you should have to apologize to anyone! Obviously, you and almost everyone on this planet are searching for meaning and existential angst is part of that quest. Everyone I know, including myself, have investigated myriad belief systems in the hope of answering the questions of existence.

 

Discussions on this forum can at times be contentious. I was banned for a week this summer for stating my opinions. I apologize to no one for what I write.

 

Thanks for bringing up Falun Dafa. I investigated that movement when it was first revealed about the Chinese state persecuting the Falun Dafa followers. This was about 15 years ago. I ordered the tapes and books and on initial reading, the authoritarianism of Li Hongzhi did not sit well with me.

 

You might find this free pdf useful.

 

 

Hey there,

Thanks... I think your right... That poster underneath you is about to get a piece of mind...lol I'm not his gal. In his dreams. But I am likeing the joker, great pic... He was a great actor, and what a lose...

 

I like your threads, and the way you always add some you tub, that is cool... Any how. You are right, just getting started, have along way to go. And good point about not being closed mined, I live in the bible belt talk about closed mined... So thanks for being a good guy. and taking up for me. I guess I will at last give this bug 3bob what he wants...lol

Ok take care Melanie

http://members.shaw....horitarians.pdf

I AM SORRY TO ANYONE, I HAVE UPSET... IT WAS UNKNOWINGLY DONE.

Hi there to you my friend,

You are a nice person, I can tell. I thank you for being kind and understanding. I have not took up with anything as people say, they do not know me as well as you seem to. I had no idea the word "Gong" was like saying I was going to worship the devil. My goodness. A person just sent me this information on here, I had no idea it would upset everyone so. I have been in touch with some higher thinkers since this because of this though, that have offered me some help with things that would be more in The Tao ideas. I am learning for goodness sacks... I'm glad you understand that.

I will just look into all, and in the end i will come up with what is good and true. And is full of love, kindness... And my goal is to help others and myself. I haven't any selfish reasons but to learn, and this is how we do it... Thank you again... And to all the people that have been kind and helpful. On my way to learning.

I have been on a spiritual growth path before coming to your site, with my OBE's and sleep pralysis, and things. So this is what brought me here to find understanding... And mostly through pm. I seem to find the deeper people, and of course you are a great one. But I will not respond to these negative other people there is no reason in it...

Lots of love, Take care Melanie

Hi Mel! Just wanted to add my thoughts here since I have practiced this before.

 

I agree, I did find the book very good and the teaching very good and the exercises very good too.

 

However, when you get past that, to the heart of the "movement" that is Falun Gong, there is a whole lot I can just not understand or agree with.

 

Once you get past the exercises and the book...well there is a long history there of Falun Gong in China and accusations of abuses and the leader Master Li had to leave and come to the US. Now there are accusations of members being tortured, jailed, and even harvested for body parts.

 

IMO Falun Gong has come to the point where at its root it has become more about a crusade against persecution than about cultivation. In fact Li has gone from teaching only the exercises, to adding the teachings, and now according to him you can not cultivate anything in his school without making "validating the Fa" or "rectifying the Fa" one of your main priorities. There is a news paper they have for this, a traveling theater production, flyers, all kinds of ways you can make yourself useful to the cause.

 

I guess what I am really trying to make a point of is that if you are looking to work on yourself and learn about yourself there are a lot of ways to do that. Falun Gong has some good tools I guess, but just be aware that you are getting into what is much more of a movement than strictly a cultivation school or technique. In order to be part of that school and succeed, according to it's master, you will have to become part of that movement and part of that cause. The feeling I got from reading the book and practicing was pretty good, especially when it was new. The feeling I got about the whole movement was kind of dark and weird. Once I decided to just let it all go and find my own way it was very liberating and freeing.

 

I think there is really something you can pick up and learn from the book if the concepts and ideas are new to you, but it's true what others have said here that these are principals taught by many and not exclusive to Falun Gong.

 

Keep working on yourself! It is something I strive for too and it is an awesome thing! That's what cultivation is I guess. Cultivating your body and mind, health and virtue. Becoming peaceful and content with who you are and where you are at any given moment in time.

 

Good luck with whatever you do!!!

Yes, that's exactly it, it's very convincing the more you let go. If you were quite screwed up like I was it can be very confronting, you can feel much resistance to "letting go" cause you are afraid of moving on and finding yourself possibly adrift from your known place (even if that place is hell it's still more comforting for most in some ways rather thanthe unknown that comes with change ). Many things can happen, like your body starts spasming as the long-held tension releases deep in your muscles/viscera. A lot of my 'process' was like walking on rusty sharp razor blades while having sharp needles jabbed into my consciousness at first, then like blunt razor blades without the rust, then just things that hurt, then numb pain, then lessening of it, then it takes its own rapid course of quicker/wiser dissolving of issues/psychic pain without 'you' doing much, then you break through--voila! Hope I haven't put you off . You as an empath will have some issues to face that could be rather hidden under all the 'niceness', it's difficult to 'see' this sometimes when we are giving a lot (energeticaly and otherwise) to others all the time. All the best, Paul.

Hey Paul,

You are a good down to earth guy... You are a great part of this forum in my opinion... I have been so happy to share in all your experiences. You have been through a lot... But you are doing good now. This is hope for us all. I love the way you keep thing uncomplicated. This is good. At first when people don't understand and hear a bunch of words that they don't understand they can get confused, you where one of the many good ones that lead me to understand to look deeper than a word, and then I could look deeper into myself.

I am so happy for all the help people and I have received from this forum it is a wonderful blessing to the world....

You are very insightful paul to know that under all my smiles and helpful loving nature does lye some problems. I have had to learn and still am, not to take into much from people. I want to help as i can. But I am as a sponge and can take in and hurt myself. I am almost 40 now so I'm getting better. Also I notice negative people try and bring positive people down, I'm not sure if this is on purpose or just there nature. At last though they hurt there selfs so much more than they ever can me. And this breaks my heart for them...

Paul I stay for people like you. Thank you for your kindness and helpful words... Thats what it is all about. And i am so happy for you that you have gotten past all that pain you where suffering, it sounds as if it was a long hard journey. Now you can help others, and I know you do already. You have the healing touch... Yes? This is so good. Someone told me i had this to some extent. Just a hug to a hurting person can help so much...

Lots of love Mel

Hey,

Thought this was cool, check it out... That friend from Scotland sends me all the good stuff... Take care Melanie

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the light of day breaks my thought

a glimpse of heaven

A glimpse of Heaven

Is in our grasp, just once more

tell day break comes

Hey,

So nice to met you, enjoy all the great people, and information....

Take care Mel

Hey there,

Welcome to this wonderful site, I'm sure there will be plenty of great advise for you... Take care and feel better... Melanie

Their could be different reasons for the levitation. When your hole body flew, its most likely that a great heavenly circulation has been formed and you can fly because you are not attached to it.When some parts of your body raise up this could be because of an mechanism or because you were very good opened at that spot. Their is no Chi is taking over or something...

 

 

 

Kind regards,

Xian

Hey there,

Thanks for the post... I'm learning a little all the time... First the OBE, now this... The OBE was before I acme to this site just kinda happened naturally. The levitation was after starting my meditation after coming to the site... So great adventure ahead of me.

It's great we are all so blessed to be alive, and have a chance to grow upwards as we should... Thanks for all...

Take care Melanie

Diplomatic Craig,

but your words:

 

"...Falun gong has "real" qigong techniques"

 

imo should be changed to: Falun has stolen parts of "real" qigong techniques.

 

Om

"Everyone needs to have these qualities about there self's so we use it right. And some other things... I will let you know more, when I do. Lots of work ahead of me. I'm so happy! It just is so flowing into me, like it is meant to be there. Really isn't work at all... Cultivating Truth, Kindness, and Tolerance Simultaneously.."

Melanie

Please continue to research.

 

Know the root of what you are studying.

 

Falun gong has "real" qigong techniques.

 

there are many who are sincere and with open hearts. The "real" techniques will have energetic results.....

 

BUT. Please understand the origins of the teacher, from outside the doctrine and propaganda. Please research more about Taoism and it's roots.

 

Your destiny is yours. It's a big world. Keep researching

 

Craig

Thanks Craig,

You are very kind... It is great to learn from each and everything I can. I think almost everything has something to offer... I have had my of my own natural experiences, before looking into Chi, Qi, And Gong... And A person saw that I had went on an OBE and some other things where growing and happening in my life. Just going through a growing phase...

You are right, Sometimes things can have a darker side to them... On my OBE thread a person had wrote if I remember correctly" If it wasn't for his Gong, he wouldn't of been able to protect himself on the other plain" I know people that have never experience these things they sound strange to them...

Thanks again for your advise, I will follow it. But I'm almost done with this book, a friend on this forum gave me... And I relate to it all the way... But I will look into it, and everything more...

Take care Melanie

P.S. It was ironic that the post I had put up was about people and fighting on here, and baiting one another, flame wars, so to speak... And I got just the same response to the very exact thing... Strange... Melanie

I won't be growing in harmony with a co-opting cult and their baiting methods, which you are apparently into and now also passing off as undebateable truth - namely Falun Gong. (btw since those later words are not your own, quotation marks and a name would generally be in order) Let's see - you went from asking basic questions here to falling for a nut case and posting his doctrine almost overnight, amazing but such things happen all the time. Look up Mr. Moon sometime then maybe you'll see the pattern...

 

Om

Oh... I am in no way saying those are my words. Sorry for not putting quotation marks... That was an oversight on my part... I thought I mad it clear who I was taking from, and about. I guess you miss understood. I would never try and pose as someone else.... But as I said Thank you for being so kind, as to point out my error... I will always try and remember my quotation marks...

Lets see my first thread here was about having an OBE twice, Fallen Angels, Levitation... So I wouldn't exactly say I was asking basic everyday question... Like I have said before this is the beauty of a forum we can all agree to disagree and thats ok. Live, laugh, and love... OM... Take care Melanie

Hi everyone,

I thought this was good for us all, I notice people get into it with each other on here, or even try and bait one another. Not on this thread, just general... And I thought this is something we can all learn from... Lets all grow in peace, and harmony, together... Hugs Mel

"They should turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to them, and be unaffected by people and things. I often say that the thoughts of everyday people cannot affect me.

I won't become happy when someone praises me, nor will I get upset when someone insults me. I remain unfazed no matter how serious the challenges for my character among everyday people may be. Practitioners should take all personal gain lightly and not even care about it.

Only then can your intention to become enlightened be considered mature. If you can be without strong pursuit of renown and personal gain, and even regard them as something trivial, then you won't get frustrated or upset and your mind will always stay calm. Once you can let go of everything, your mind will naturally become clear and still."

Reminded me of Lao Tzu's "Three Treasures":

 

 

I have Three Treasures;

Guard them and keep them safe:

the first is Love.

The second is, Never too much.

The third is, Never be the first in the world.

 

Lin Yutang's translation.

Hi Mablehead,

I will send you the book if you like, it is for everyone. But we must read it all the way through... I really relate to it, you might too... Mel

"I like your saying"

Hey Mel,

So have you started practicing Falun Gong? How has the law wheel helped you to protect yourself? Jus curious. thx

 

-Astral

Hey,

It is awesome, It just took a very insightful person who read all my threads, and put them together... I have the OBE, Levitation, 11:11 now law wheel...

I understand whats going on with my body now. I have been opening that third eye, not all the way yet. But on my way. And I need the Gong, qi and chi to protect myself, and help others. When I get that far, I will tell all, I am just learning... Everyone needs to have these qualities about there self's so we use it right. And some other things... I will let you know more, when I do. Lots of work ahead of me. I'm so happy! It just is so flowing into me, like it is meant to be there. Really isn't work at all... Cultivating Truth, Kindness, and Tolerance Simultaneously...

Love that pic,

One thing you have to admit, this thread went on longer than i thought it would... It was just a passing thought... I didn't expect this...lol

This little guy had some legs... Good night all... Time to meditate... Yea!!!

No he didn't. He wasn't a wimp, and he didn't do Disney.

 

 

 

 

 

He meant this: