goonis38

First and foremost fasting is a way to cleanse the body of toxins.

This is so right... And I have done this myself, it takes a lot of control to eat right. But it is so worth it... I think it is something I am proud of myself for. Doing without, will others are not. Isn't easy, but it was, and is rewarding. And I lost weight...lol

Hugs Mel

Buddhism offers the most comprehensive and systematic path that leads to freedom from torment, guilt and angst. Freedom from such states instigates a return to affliction-free sanity. Being free from afflictive emotions and thoughts, there is no longer any relevance to question whether this man, The Buddha, was fully or only half-enlightened (half?). What matters is its a workable, sustainable, peaceful, non-harming, ecological philosophy, on so many levels.

 

Its a daring statement, but i would say that anyone who believes in philia, and who strives for peace and harmony, is, in my mind, a Buddhist. For me, 'Buddhist' is a way of being... not merely a label that lends a certain image to people. There are non-Buddhists who behaves in very buddhistic ways, and also, there are Buddhists who behaves otherwise. Its all about realizations, and how we treat and respect ourselves and others, and also, what our motives are. The Dalai Lama once met a Christian mystic (it was in France, i think... not sure, as i heard this a long time ago) - he gazed into this man's eyes, and immediately recognized that this man was truly an enlightened individual.

Hi there,

I agree with what you are saying here so much, and can relate to the truth of it. I really don't label myself to much. I find that not for me. And do not judge those that find labeling good for them.

I have found in my area of where I live, this is not the way people want you to live your life. And they seem to resent a person for not slapping a label on him or her self. I don't know why it bothers people so.

Why can't a person just be...

Melanie

Thankyou for starting this topic off there are many question surrounding this subject & if you could go into a little more detail that would be fabulous, thankyou.

 

Also anyone else chiming in would be great as well

Hi there all,

I just wanted to add, I do know that there are things going on with OBE and ream sleep work, that have and can be used to cultivate your whole body and mind...

There are people out there who have become so good at this it is amazing... I have had people OBE right to my house to look for an unfriendly spirit that was hanging out. And they not only sent him away. They told me things that they would not know if they where not here. Like we had a leak last Summer, and they let me know we had bad mold under our house. This was true... I don't even know who these people are, any more than I know who you are... But I was helped just the same...

Now back to the subject at hand... There is also a group of OBE people, who know how to exchange there healing knowledge for Qi or Chi or other things they may need. In your spirit body you can do, and take more from another. Than you can in your human skin. Still there are limitation to this. Such as you can only stay in OBE state for so long before your body wants it back.

But I have found dream walking to be a new thing for me. But again your ream sleep only last so long. You can take things to keep it going longer like meletonin, or other things. That I myself haven't used yet, but know of. Like there are some that use. the plant bella to stay in ream. I know little about all of this really next to some, but I know it is growing the knowledge of all of this, and it is going on...

Your friend Melanie

P.S. I would like to add that a person that takes from another should always have an agreement with the other to exchange something in return. Or you would be hurting yourself more than them in the end...

From:

http://lifeandstartr...modern-society/

 

 

How would replicators change modern society?

 

 

 

"The replicator can make anything you desire". This was how Data explained replicators to Q, and he's right. Replicators convert energy into matter in the form you specify. They can create food, clothing, and small children (okay, maybe not). The ramifications of such a device are enormous. They would completely change the dynamics of society, especially the economics of it. Forgive us as we wax prophetically and imagine how replicators would change everything if introduced into our modern society, from their conception to their complete integration in everyday life.

 

Conception

As many forms of technology do, replicators would most likely slowly accrue component technologies over time, small, seemingly unrelated advances here and there. In the Star Trek universe, replicators are the direct descendants of transporters. Honestly, I think we'd have some sort of replicator technology before being able to transfer matter across space. And so in modern society I think this technology would evolve from another related technology such as 3d printers. It would at first only be available to the military and high profile applications but eventually someone would recognize the potential implications of the technology.

Similar to how the first computers evolved, I believe the first replicators would be very large and few and far between. Used only for research at first, the scientific institutions would eventually realize their value in the economical sense and would begin charging people for use of the replicators similar to how colleges sold time on their mainframe computers to those who could afford it.

 

Charitable Intentions

Depending on the breadth of the early replicator's abilities their applications could be extremely useful in the developing world. The ability to produce food and clothing at will could provide millions of people who didn't have access to such amenities we take for granted. The replicator would be the charity worker's swiss army knife. The Federation always had claimed to have wiped out starvation and the replicator could go a long way to making this possible in our world.

Can't you just see Bono replicating thousands of pounds of clothing and food and flying it to those in need? Hah, sorry U2 fans. But the point stands. Much of the issue of starvation is due to money and availability. The replicator solves the money issue, all that would be left would be to make it available to those in need.

 

Economic Repercussions

Any company producing any kind of physical tangible product would instantly have their eye on the replicator technology. Until personal replicators were affordable by people on an average income companies could take advantage of replicators as an extremely cheap way to produce their goods. In the process many people would unfortunately lose their jobs to be replaced by replicators (such as when robots replaced many people on the assembly line).

In comes a Steve Jobs like character (yes, I'm taking this analogy all the way) who realizes the potential of replicators as a consumer product and is able to package and sell them to a mass market. This shakes up the entire economic landscape. Stores would become irrelevant. Suddenly consumers can create food, clothing, gadgets, anything from the comfort of their own home. Producers of consumers goods would fight for restrictions of the sales of replicators but eventually consumer demand would override everything. Many companies would go out of business. Some companies will spring up around the idea of selling replicator patterns for clothing, food, etc. An economy would develop around this idea. This shake-up is similar to what the newspaper and book publishing industry is experiencing with the introduction of the internet. There's a lot of push back but eventually they realize they have to adapt or perish. This would be an enormous socioeconomic change and our society would never be the same.

 

Total Ubiquity

Eventually replicators would become a toaster, a completely ubiquitous device in households. People would become dependent upon them and cook less and less on their own (even more so than today). The chef would rise further in stature. The home cooked meal will be coveted and a special event. The replicator would even be seen as a basic human right since it provides access to all of the basic survival necessities. Finishing the computer analogy (I swear okay, I'm done!) the replicator would be in every home.

Even small children...lol You are on a roll tonight. I went to a technology conference years ago and they said that this already exist and the military uses it, on the war front. I don't know if that is true. My Military family "would tell me , but they would have to kill me" I don't know how many times i have heard that in my life...

It is something to think about though...

Mel

But there would be a place for everyone, its all one world.

 

Maybe a Hermit city, where no one sees anyone else?

 

Peace!

You are so making me lol... That was good. Can you imagine a city where no one can see anyone. That is so funny...

Mel

Hi TSoDE!

 

Just to interject:

 

The premise of "Logans Run"

 

It is a future society of a city under a environmental dome.

They are the remnants of a society destroyed by nuclear war, I believe.

 

The inhabitants of the city are born test tube style, normal conception has been eliminated.

 

There is a celebration called "renewal" in which all members of society are forced to participate

when they reach the age of 30 years.

This is shown by a colored star imbedded into the palms

of every inhabitant, the color of the implant changes as you age, when reaching 30 years of age

it changes to red, I believe, and signals renewal or execution. The thing about the renewal ceremony

is that you are supposed to float upwards and receive renewal and live your life continued, with your

colored star returning to the color of a youth, renewal of your life.

The truth is that the ceremony is a staged execution of all who reach 30 years old, made to look like

a beautiful religious ceremony of renewed life. Only problem is, no one ever seems to know anyone

that has been renewed.

 

It is because the city is self contained and has limited available resources to it's automated computer

systems, that the original population numbers had to be controlled for the survival of the other inhabitants.

 

Logan (played by Michael York) is chasing a runner that is not going to willing participate in the renewal

ceremony because she says it is suicide and there is no renewal only death. She tell Logan about escaping the city

being possible and he begins to question his reality. When he does this, the controlling computer of the society

messes with his own star implant and triggers it so he is due for renewal, so he takes the girl and runs!

 

What follows is the struggle between him and his former police partner trying to kill him, trying to escape the

confines of the city, to reach the outside world.

 

It's a must see sci-fi movie as far as I'm concerned.

 

Not sure how this reminded anyone of the Venus project, but is a great movie to watch!

There is talk of a remake in the works!

 

 

Peace!

Lol man I don't know why, it just did... I was looking at the pics of the city I guess that triggered the movie in my mind. It is an awesome movie, that is cool you know it. I was wondering if any body would know what in heck I was talking about as far as the movie. No please don't take anything I'm saying wrong. I always have a good heart in it. You know that... Just something about the pictures more than the idea of what the city is about...

i actually think that is a pretty cool idea for people who like to be around people, and work well with them. I just am the hermit that lives in the woods. I know i don't look it. Your like, "did you use someone els's pic or what?"

Hugs Mel

Based on some responses to the initial post, I see that many people are just

assuming to know or understand what is being presented.

 

The Venus Project is a NEW Idea, there is much to learned by reading the available

information. This is not a fly by night idea, the founder Jacque Fresco has been

actively involved in the design and philosophical leap being presented, for the last

35 years. It is because of the nature of this project wanting to leave a profit based

economy for a resource based economy, that those who control governments and

power and the world monetary system, want this information to not reach you.

 

Please take some time and read what this project really is.

 

Those that are criticizing this Idea have obviously not taken any time to read and comprehend

that the approach for a new paradigm in a world society has never been attempted on this scale.

Nothing is written in stone, change is constant, but the base of this concept is sound.

 

I see it is necessary to repost some of the links:

 

 

http://www.thevenusp...ntroduction/faq

 

 

 

What is The Venus Project?

Very Briefly, The Venus Project is an organization that proposes a feasible plan of action for social change; one that works toward a peaceful and sustainable global civilization. It outlines an alternative to strive toward where human rights are not only paper proclamations but also a way of life.

 

The Venus Project presents a vision not of what the future will be, but what it can be if we apply what we already know in order to achieve a sustainable new world civilization. It calls for a straightforward redesign of our culture in which the age-old problems of war, poverty, hunger, debt, and unnecessary human suffering are viewed not only as avoidable, but as totally unacceptable. Anything less will result in a continuation of the same catalog of problems found in today's world.

 

The Venus Project presents an alternative vision for a sustainable world civilization unlike any political, economic or social system that has gone before. It envisions a time in the near future when money, politics, self and national-interest have been phased out. Although this vision may seem idealistic, it is based upon years of study and experimental research. It spans the gambit from education, transportation, clean sources of energy to total city systems.

 

Many people believe what is needed is a higher sense of ethical standards and the enactment of international laws and treaties to assure a sustainable global society. Even if the most ethical people in the world were elected to political office, without sufficient resources we would still have many of the same problems we have today. As long as a few nations control most of the world's resources and profit is the bottom line, the same cycle of events will prevail.

 

As global challenges and scientific information proliferate, nations and people face common threats that transcend national boundaries. Overpopulation, energy shortages, global warming, environmental pollution, water scarcity, economic catastrophe, the spread of uncontrollable disease, and the technological displacement of people by machines threaten each of us. Although many people are dedicated to alleviating those conditions, our social and environmental problems will remain insurmountable as long as a few powerful nations and financial interests maintain control of and consume most of the world's resources and the monetary system prevails.

 

If we really wish to put an end to our ongoing international and social problems, we must declare Earth and all of its resources the common heritage of all of the world's people.

 

Earth is abundant and has plentiful resources. Our practice of rationing resources through monetary control is no longer relevant and is counter-productive to our survival. Today we have highly advanced technologies, but our social and economic system has not kept up with our technological capabilities. We could easily create a world of abundance for all, free of servitude and debt based on the carrying capacity of Earth resources. With the intelligent and humane application of science and technology, the people of the earth can guide and shape the future together while protecting the environment. We don't have enough money to accomplish these ends but we do have more than enough resources. This is why we advocate a Resource-Based Economy.

 

 

http://www.thevenusp...roduction/about

 

 

 

Resource Based Economy

 

All social systems, regardless of political philosophy, religious beliefs, or social customs, ultimately depend upon natural resources, i.e. clean air and water, arable land and the necessary technology and personnel to maintain a high standard of living.

 

Simply stated, a resource-based economy utilizes existing resources rather than money and provides an equitable method of distributing these resources in the most efficient manner for the entire population. It is a system in which all goods and services are available without the use of money, credits, barter, or any other form of debt or servitude.

 

Earth is abundant with plentiful resources; today our practice of rationing resources through monetary methods is irrelevant and counter productive to our survival. Modern society has access to highly advanced technologies and can make available food, clothing, housing, medical care, a relevant educational system, and develop a limitless supply of renewable, non-contaminating energy such as geothermal, solar, wind, tidal, etc. It is now possible to have everyone enjoy a very high standard of living with all of the amenities that a prosperous civilization can provide. This can be accomplished through the intelligent and humane application of science and technology.

 

To better understand the meaning of a resource-based economy consider this: if all the money in the world were destroyed, as long as topsoil, factories, and other resources were left intact, we could build anything we choose to build and fulfill any human need. It is not money that people need; rather, it is free access to the necessities of life. In a resource-based economy , money would be irrelevant. All that would be required are the resources and the manufacturing and distribution of the products.

 

When education and resources are made available to all people without a price tag, there would be no limit to the human potential. Although this is difficult to imagine, even the wealthiest person today would be far better off in a resource based society as proposed by The Venus Project. Today the middle classes live better than kings of times past. In a resource based economy everyone would live better than the wealthiest of today.

 

In such a society, the measure of success would be based on the fulfillment of one's individual pursuits rather than the acquisition of wealth, property and power.

 

This is the very tip of the iceberg... The thoroughness of the Idea is astounding.

Please visit the Venus Project website for more info.

 

 

Peace!

Hi there,

I get you. I read it. and have heard of it before briefly talked about. And I did look at your web sites. I understand where you are coming from. And I am not against it. If it is for you. I personally am more like a wilderness, free spirit type. And I already resent any and all control over my life in any way.

I am a member of the NRA and have CHL, and my CDL... Just because I can. And it is my right to have it. I will take what rights we have left... They have hide so much pork under every bill we sign it is crazy... I guess for me, this isn't what I like. I would rather even now. If I had the money have a house out in the woods. I love being alone... And I would hate being trapped up with a bunch of people like that... Thats like my worst nightmare man...

But if it is for someone else thats cool... I'll just take the woods any day. I just got back from a trip to NM Woods, giant elk. It was awesome. I so wanted to live there... But sadly I can't right now. Someday maybe... But don't get me wrong "One man's meat, is another man's poison" thats all I'm saying. I have read some of the other post please don't think that I am bashing this idea for you or others. It could and would be a great thing for some...

Warm wishes... Mel

Melanie, what do you mean you "can live off the land"? How does being an army brat prepare you for living off the land? What was the premise of 'Logan's Run'? Thanks,

 

Mr Songs

You again?...lol Ok what was my premise for "Logan's Run" ? I already stated that, it reminded me of this topic ... It my not remind you, but it did me...

Oh and besides Army Brat, I forgot to say my husband is a farmer third generation, Well i don't know it depends on what kind of upbringing a person receives... And with a 25 year Special Forces dad, and a 25 year Special Forces brother, now Homeland Security... I was raised shooting, and out in nature. This is where I would find myself more in control of my life. And believe me this Texas girl knows how to make it. And this would be my personal choice over the topic at hand...

Mel

Hi there,

I couldn't help but think of automatic writing when I read what you wrote. You most likely know what this is. But for the ones that don't, it is when your guide, or what have you communicates with you. And then again it could be just what you said, you could of subconsciously wrote it your self in your sleep. But what ever the case, it is very interesting and enlightening. And something for us all to think about this day of "1/1/11 the New Year"...

We all have failures, and regret, everyone. It is a hard pill to take for everyone. Sometimes it just takes time, and sometimes it takes change in our lives... We are all on the same path together my friend, and I strongly believe that we will all understand things one day better than we can through the eye we see through now...

Hugs Melanie

Happy New Years... I wish you, and your family all the happyness the world has to offer...

Take care Mel

very cool date. i hope everyone takes full advantage and appreciation of it : ) 1/1/11 i look at it as a coming together of ones..in the i ching the sages used the numbers 2 and 3 to represent the yin and yang the heaven and earth as 1 was too abstract and complicated a number to use.

for me on this day it is one idea that has my waking mind's focus.

for me marcus aurelius said it most eloquently in his meditations. so we have a roman emperor, a beatnik philosopher, noted modern scientists , ancient taoist sages all saying the same thing

we are all connected, everything in this universe is connected, there is an inconceivable nature of nature, we have past this way before and much to be learned....

happy new year Melanie i am glad we are friends

Thanks man, I'm glad we are friend also. You are a great person with a positive out look, I think thats all it takes...

Hugs Mel

Hi there,

That so reminds me of that movie "Logans Run" I think that kind of control, and way of society really isn't to far from the direction things are going. I have seen things turning to more government, less people. For years now...

Is it for me, would I accept it. Absolutely not for me or my family. But I think that most of society could live under that kind of control quite easily...

Army brat here, I can live off the land and would rather do so. Than be under some kind of false eden, as that, but that is just me...

Take care all Mel

Hi Everyone...

Happy new Years... I wish you all the best that this world has to offer... To you, and your family...

Cool date isn't it?

Your friend Melanie

Well, it's that time of year again where we all pretend we are Daoist yet still do the Christmas thang.

 

I'd like to wish all of you here a very Merry Christmas and hope you all have the very best of whatever you consider important to yourselves (and not what others may consider important), that which helps you to grow and be more of what you are.

 

But I would like to suggest maybe, just maybe, you do something that is strange, unusual or even ridiculous this Christmas just for the hell of it, break down that social acceptance conditioning just to get closer to the all that is. Don't go over board mind you!

 

I may be a bit premature (as usual), but it's Christmas Eve for me, all be it the early hours of Christmas eve. Anyway, Merry Christmas to you all and wishing you a very Merry Christmas!

Hi there,

I'm with you there... To much stuffy, stuffy... People are afraid to smile any more maybe there faces my crack...lol I will do that. But I'm not one to fall in place any ways, so I just never seem to be the robot the world is wanting at the moment... Oh well...

Heres to a Merry Christmas even for us that will not conform... Mel

where did you get my pic from ?

I didn't see that...lol you so funny my friend. I found you floating around my house all full of electricity... Just don't be in places you don't need to be...lol Mel

I think it would be to wonderful for a perfect sexy flame to be waiting and just find one another... Wow.

And then I would be married and have a child bummer for me...lol Melanie

Precisely.

 

As always, we'll see what happens.

Thats what I think we will see what happens... And don't worry. Live your life the best you can... Time will tell... Melanie

Marry Christmas to all... God Bless

Interesting, I hadn't heard about the 11 connection.

 

But my close friend has been obsessed with her twin flame for years now.. So, I've heard a lot about all that c*** (lol) secondhand. I say c*** because it apparently can be very long, drawn-out, powerful & torturous due to real-world logistics like long distance, if one's married, etc. And I get to hear about all this fun constantly - like an internal soap opera that never ends..

 

I absolutely wish her the best with it, though!

Hi my friend,

I'm not sure this friend of mine is close but not that close. But if I was to guess, and use my woman intuition about his deal, and what he wrote. That they are dealing with those type problems...

"Romantic though"lol

Greetings..

 

HI Twinner: For many years i have found the following to be consistent and without valid contradiction, it is very similar to your conclusion..

 

The One became many (we/us/Life), so it could experience its own existence.. Experience is the purpose.

 

Be well..

Thats what I think it is just beautiful and well wrote, You took a lot of time in writing that from your heart I could tell... Your a good man...

Take care Mel

Oh I asked my friend that wrote this today did he find his twin flam? He has after all these years. They live in two different country's but they are working it out..." How romantic is that"...

I wish I could have that, the way i keep seeing 11 all the time he might just be waiting for me... Awesome

Hi Mel,

This is a very common occurrence with flash or bright lights. It is either a dust particle or most likely light refraction within the lens.

That doesn't mean that something else wasn't there!

Oh I got the OBE goest buster team over here and did a clearing. One of the spirits called Allison when it was sent over to the other side and the man that lives two houses over five years ago was killed in a car accident, her last name was Allison then... Mel

P.S. Also we had a bad leak this summer in the garage, one of the guys that came over OBE let me know I have mold under my house... Wow

maybe its the ghost of christmas past checking out your decorations

lol, hope i was a good girl this christmas... oh well not much hope in that...

Nice orb. Some say it's dust, or water particles interfering with the function of the camera. You can emulate this by being near a waterfall, or by hitting a pillow and then taking a picture.

 

But why do orbs appear a lot for more spiritual people? Maybe due to their personal magnetics, it causes these things in the air to change their state...

 

Or maybe it truly is spirits making themselves known, due to the nature of digital cameras being able to capture frequencies of light slightly beyond the visual range.

 

Who knows!

Hi my friend,

To be honest I have felt a presence in my home for about a year now. And don't laugh but I ask to take those pics... Looks like they posed for me. That orb is full of electricity and has a face on it, looks like. I have seen those dust ones they are obvious... Those ones in the closet worried me... Mel

I went to

 

 

picked one of the photo's and copied the direct link url http://i1102.photobu...38/IMG_0739.jpg

 

Then if we put

 

 

i.e.

[img*]http://i1102.photobu...38/IMG_0739.jpg[/img*]

 

removing the astrisks (they are only there so that you can "see" the comands) gives

 

 

alternativly copy the direct link url, click the "Insert Image" icon (the icon is a pic of a tree) and past in the url

 

 

{ Cool orbs too }

Thanks Mal you made that look so easy... It was interesting. I have felt a presence in my home for over year, and just decided to take these pics. Well I have had a house clearing of anything harmful hopefully. i don't mind a lonley spirit hanging out... Mel

Thank the Lord and for all your help, now I will know. Zoom in Guys and let me know what you think... Mel