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  1. Probability of Change

    So I'm curious about the probability of receiving a changing line in a casting. From the wikipedia page is a nice chart with probabilities: With both coins and milfoil there is a 50% chance of getting a yin or yang line. With both coins and milfoil there is a 25% chance of getting a changing line. Within a changing line: With coins it is equally probable for the change to be yin-to-yang or yang-to-yin. However with milfoil it is more probable for a yang line to change than for a yin line to change. So it would appear that different casting methods draw on different principles to calculate change. Milfoil appears to use the principle that it is more likely for yang energy (firmness/substance) to change and become used and form yin. While on the other hand it is less likely for yin receptivity to cultivate enough stillness within its field for what is in motion to settle and gather back into firmness / yang. While with coins it would appear just as likely for a yin to settle into yang as yang to settle into yin. I know a lot of people prefer to use coins as milfoil takes much longer. However given the above differences, I wonder if we can really consider these methods to be interchangeable. Earlier I was also reading about the marble method for casting, which appears to duplicate the probability of milfoil castings while making the process much simpler. Marbles are nice and simple, but any objects could work once marked appropriately, like these. I am curious if others have explored this difference in principle behind change within casting methods.
  2. Rebirth

    There is dao, and there is creation from dao, and there is return to dao. Within this are myriad cycles of transformation, such as the cycles of transmigration within the planet earth. The "daoist cosmology" reveals many complicated symbolisms, which when studied with the model of nature, may or may not help one to intuitively grasp the workings of the celestial mechanism, including transmigration. Separation, heavy sinks, light rises. Integration, heavy and light merge. Patterns and shapes, the motion of the planets, the current of a species, all are connected. One whole, life and death, the whole separates. Patterns find like patterns. Conception has its own pattern, patterns find like patterns. Rebirth. What is on the surface must not be taken for the real without examination within.
  3. I feel this thread sorta reveals the core essence: Zhuangzi, in chapter 1 poses the question of what we depend upon... and what were to happen if we were to depend only upon heaven and earth? Everything else is in-between, and in between can be gauged by how fluidly something is able to adapt to the changes occurring between heaven and earth. When this adaptation becomes stagnant, the flow and harmony become obstructed. Rather than trusting decisions to our intuition, our ego comes to decide right and wrong based on attachments. When the flow is not hindered, the intuition marks a fluidity that naturally balances between yin and yang. This is being close to dao. When when the flow is hindered, we enter a buffered state where there is separation and stagnation to this way of seamlessly flowing with dao. The entire manifest realm is such a stage of buffering, and yet even it has an ebb and flow, a beginning and ending. In buffering, we lean to the extreme. In cultivation of balance, we lean to where we may surrender to intuition of what is right and wrong in any given moment through divine knowledge and connection to refined vibration.
  4. indoor training vs outdoor training

    Die how? In the flesh? Does that prevent another from receiving the transmission? Is direct inheritance by a so-called "indoor student" better? It would appear that sometimes such students transform the art in beautiful ways, reinvigorating its heart... while others may not have understood much beyond the surface, or beyond their teacher's ever present guidance. Does the "name" make inheritance more official than the ability to reach the heart of the teaching? Once a pattern exists, it has an essence, like a musical theme. It may not bear the name of its founder, and may not be applied with the same steps, but that essence may continue to be expressed through the changing medium of time and space for as long as people are willing to listen. In some cases it may simply be a matter of timing and sincerity. In other cases it may be more intentionally tended through guides. Perhaps both at once is common. Easy to forget, all that about how something is more easily brought down after it is raised up; how cultivating the "value" of something or of one's self is to limit one's freedom. Those who study the art of energy movement would do well to continuously study the daodejing and zhuangzi. IMO.
  5. indoor training vs outdoor training

    Well put. Where I train... the teacher has gone beyond indoor/outdoor. When in class, the teacher observes the whole, and what is spoken is what each of us need as a whole. Speaking is very minimal, as too many words activate our human-minds and take us away from cultivating the mind of dao. When in private lessons, we practice harmonization with one another. There is a one-on-one, or one-on-two relationship, but whenever this is "taken" as the means to increase desire for a particular teaching, it impedes the operation of becoming spiritually whole, as one begins to emphasize horizontal connection to another rather than maintaining vertical development. In both cases though, I feel "indoor" training is readily available. We are encouraged to avoid missing classes, and each class takes place at a different time within the season, even though they are twice a week. Every day has a different energy, and every class has different instructions - sometimes harmony is emphasized, sometimes cultivating of roots is emphasized, sometimes we learn new material, sometimes we get a lecture, sometimes we are instructed to move at natural speed, and so on, according to what we need as a whole and according to how we may best harmonize with the environmental changes. There is much to be learned from this if one listens. For the student who diligently trains, the transformations come of their own. When in class, those changes are instructed with a work or half a sentence at the precise time they are needed. This matter of timing is where things become very indoor. Every other student may hear this instruction and find use of it, but for the one student who was on the threshold of a major transformation, it holds a secret that shows where the threshold is, and what to do upon reaching it. To me, this type of indoor instruction is appropriate, as it keeps things relatively natural, almost entirely avoiding issues that come from mental attachments such as enabling, entitlement, co-dependence. The indoor teaching is also largely invisible, preventing issues of inheritance and so on. It is not a model for everyone, but the principles it applies may be useful to some, in their own way.
  6. indoor training vs outdoor training

    Oddly enough, my first 2 years in training brought about some profound results.... it was in looking back upon them and studying them that I let my mind impede my progress. Humility and openness and surrender are what enable progress. Ego ever gets in the way. For those with talent, this is the hardest lesson. If you are talented, then perhaps something within the celestial mechanism is working out for you - your mind wasn't part of that. I recommend doing yourself a favor by not presuming you have the ability to control things better than surrendering to dao.
  7. Has anyone here switched bodies with someone?

    Hi @Spotless. I think it is pretty clear, but when you say "this" above, you are speaking about the intention of the OP, in regards to exchange - correct? Just wanting to help keep things clear. Also, the Shamanic passing that was described was not (as I see it) referring to mere information, as from Akashic records - but to the substance of momentum of a soul/consciousness - the literal merging of momentum and destiny of one part of the whole with another.
  8. Has anyone here switched bodies with someone?

    Several things being spoken of here... skillful navigation of reincarnation/transmigration (into newly conceived life) passing of soul/de/consciousness from one body to another the elder soul assumes control the elder soul surrenders to the new host This last is what I felt was being described above - is it possible? The new host would need the skills to navigate such potent energy, but presuming that preparation had been made, I imagine that energy being absorbed and assimilated into the new host, without the old being able to control anything after the gift had been given. Also brings to mind something explored by Frank Herbert - where a strong past life incarnations may take the reigns as one delves deep, if they are stronger than the current presence. Then there are channels and so on. I've been taught that we should avoid sharing the vessel with others - it is our responsibility. And that responsibility our spirit is burdened with is to dissolve the ego and heal the soul - complete the de and return it to dao.
  9. Interesting, @Taomeow. Now I recall how my mother used to raise me in a slightly more feminine fashion - the first day I went to school, I had barrettes in my hair... she always loved my corn-silky hair and I never had a boy's haircut, and so on. A feminine seeming name, not having a father - quite an outcast to my peers. Not having a father to role model masculine things was yet another form of protection from the patriarchal influences, I know recognize. It has taken some effort to reach into my own past and into the rare examples present around us, to really gain an understanding of the true potential of masculine power. Which of course is contained within its own balance of femininity, and thus, is "masculine" even the proper term. I've also not trusted others in terms of my own past... and yet when that rare person arrives in my momentum with whom such a gift can be offered, it generally can be trusted. In such.... I've been able to tap into the general theme of the momentum of the tapestry and the roles I may have played. It is interesting how extremes work. In "masculine" terms it seems that it is when the masculine power is at its weakest that it also is attempting to be the most forceful and dominant.... unable to contain itself, yet on trajectory to apply itself externally at all cost, it desperately clings to that brittle unsustainable path.... I suspect that if certain gravities are exercised, these energies may be dissolved upon the very foundation which they rest, without too much collateral damage. I don't know if that is where we are headed or not, or how soon.... yet I hope that whatever the change that comes, it is able to ply itself such that extreme trajectories and their future reboundings are not beyond the capacity of the deeper momentum to contain them. When all the historical layers of shaping are able to come into close enough resonance, something magnificent may be within reach.
  10. Has anyone here switched bodies with someone?

    Something like this is mentioned in Chronicles of Tao. However there it was not described as something like possession, but rather the opposite: as though the jewel of the refined soul is passed from one spirit, at the end of its time within physical embodiment, unto the care of another spirit. The new spirit would have full autonomy, though of course the karmic gravity and momentum would also be transferred. There was not much elaboration, and I am not very clear on the purpose for such an exchange. It was described as a sharing between a master and a student, so perhaps as a very poignant tool for extension of lineage.
  11. Has anyone here switched bodies with someone?

    I offer the perspective that whenever something "was supposed to be different" with the way we were born, that we try to feel out the reason for this feeling. Were we born into a pattern that is seemingly very different from our historical transmigrationary patterns? This could be related to a need we had, to deal with a difficulty in balancing certain momentum based influences, while in our "familiar" role. So perhaps we are now gaining the ability to digest those lessons while embodied in a pattern that can do that more easily. Or perhaps we have now become able to face challenges that we had not been able to face in the past, which only seem new from a limited perspective. Perhaps both at once. This could be choice related and intentional, even though it may not seem intentional after embodiment. Could it be choice related to something like impatience? Feeling the need to embody and not wait for the right patterns to arise, when certain patterns did arise, perhaps we jumped at the opportunity - and simultaneously accepted the new and perhaps transformational lessons these fundamental changes in patterns would bring. I suspect this is common with gender imbalances - one who has difficulty in cultivating yin qualities while in masculine momentum may be led to try on femininity to learn more naturally before returning to the main momentum. Or perhaps a pair whom have shared momentum in the past now desire to embody in the same timeframe and locale. Whenever there are specific patterns that need to be matched, they are more difficult to find, and naturally come with their own shapings. It is common for the "ego" to project expectations onto the world in declaring what is supposed to be. In reality such control is only possible in a walled garden, which is then separated from the whole and also risks destruction whenever it begins to open again to exchange with the whole. When trust and acceptance are exercised, we may not get what we think we are supposed to, but often we get exactly what we need - a discovery soon realized after working through it rather than rejecting it.t It is up to us to both feel out what our challenges are and also walk the path of integration by working through those challenges. The more resistance, the more restriction - the more acceptance, the greater freedom. 61 THE YIELDING NATION A great nation, like a river delta, Receives the riches of the land. In being receptive - possessing the Yin, Receiving the Yang unto it, Overcomes all by its very peacefulness and quietude. So - A great nation, placing itself below a lesser, Absorbs the lesser. A lesser nation, submitting to a greater, Conquers and wins adherence of the greater. Thus - To absorb, conquer and win adherence, - One must yield. Truly - Those who triumph, do so by yielding. A great nation prospers by absorbing, A lesser by joining and participating. For both to so benefit, the greater nation needs be a yielding nation. tl. Alan B. Taplow
  12. Yes, exactly.... in my case I'm told I was mostly female in monastic situations or tribal ones. I'm not sure how much of the patriarchal exploitation I participated in given these 'protections.' And yet in this life I find myself very sensitive and understanding of these issues, and very connected to the importance of tapping into them. Part of this is being raised by a single mother, whom in the early 80's had much difficulty in raising me alone. Growing up I was very sensitive to her struggles and the inequalities which she so strongly fought. And yet there is something much deeper - I was often bullied physically and verbally, yet something inside did not know how to lift a finger in defense, but only walk in acceptance. The tapestry of change within momentum is vast and complex, and I know there are myriad origins for these experiences. The experiences of being female I only know were very important for me. You are probably right about how much time would be needed for every man to experience "his" feminine counterpart. I don't know, but it seems things are priming for something that isn't so far off... perhaps the earth herself has a new role to play in setting the balance.
  13. Not to derail, but I sometimes wonder if today many people are born the "wrong sex," for a purpose. Personally, I've been told most of my past lives have been male, but the most recent few were female. My read on this is that my masculinity was restricting my development and I needed a better way to learn qualities of receptivity and non-action. Now here I am male again, presumably tasked with bringing those lessons to fruition within the body of my main momentum. Perhaps for some the strong dilemma of being in the wrong body might mask - draw attention away from - the purpose this new paradigm of being might be helpful for. I wonder how these arts might help reveal the lesson.
  14. Jack Chiu has an english book on each of these arts: http://www.acmc.com.hk/Books.aspx I've only explored his book on Wen Wang Gua, but found it rather clear and more complete than other resources, without seeming to be intentionally withholding information.
  15. Tai Chi is a Bastardization of Daoism

    Haha... in being informed I have been the Bodhisattva, I was also informed that that is not my task this time around. But I'm guessing that Bodhisattva momentum is not easy to transcend. I seem to have come into an understanding that cultivates both simultaneously. In any case, my period of "investigating principle" on these boards is quickly coming to a close, and perhaps time has come for some unlearning. I've discovered the keys I sense are easy to miss when things become more subtle down the road. If y'all are lonely, I suggest you look deeper. Blessings! The Road goes ever on and on Down from the door where it began. Now far ahead the Road has gone, And I must follow, if I can, Pursuing it with eager feet, Until it joins some larger way Where many paths and errands meet. And whither then? I cannot say
  16. Tai Chi is a Bastardization of Daoism

    Why do I share these things now, with this laser like intent? I don't know, but perhaps it is a matter of timing. For after I proceed to heal myself, and then proceed to heal the world, it will be an operation that makes no proclamations.
  17. Tai Chi is a Bastardization of Daoism

    And to be sure, we are all bridges. What I refer to is that people are blocked from fully operating ziran within the physical realm, due to constraints placed upon how one needs to care for the flesh. It is too much of a burden for many to actually go out there and wander, trusting that they will be taken care of, trusting that they will be able to maintain their higher states. We each are responsible for healing our own attachments within, healing ourselves. And yet part of our pattern remains based on what we have changed and shaped within this realm. The deeper work lays in trusting our form to naturally and spontaneously go out there and dissolve and unwind those traces we have left upon the physical realm, as well. This is truly achieving destiny, not simply escaping its grasp.
  18. Tai Chi is a Bastardization of Daoism

    A bridge is indeed needed, yet the idea that a bridge is needed gets in the way of being a bridge. I see too many dissolve the idea, yet fail to become a bridge. Yes, I see. Yet further, nothing needs to be said at all. The ones that appear in the right place, at the right time.
  19. Tai Chi is a Bastardization of Daoism

    Some of us return to the web, believing the web is worth returning to dao as well. Getting stuck within its flow, then helping that flow find deeper balance and connection to dao. My apologies, perhaps we don't define "web" in the same way, and I was not very clear either. I am just following my natural instincts, which believe in being a bridge between the dao and all else. So many seem to advocate disconnecting at various levels, and for whatever reason buried within me, I am led to leave no part unloved.
  20. Tai Chi is a Bastardization of Daoism

    Then why distinguish between being trapped by it and not?
  21. Tai Chi is a Bastardization of Daoism

    No, they revealed themselves a bit ago, and you didn't notice.
  22. Tai Chi is a Bastardization of Daoism

    Some of us return to the web on purpose, as we believe it is worth of returning to dao as well. Perhaps the point is to return what is missing, and to heal the loneliness. Someone once told me I've done the Bodhisattva thing before... I too am just waiting for someone else to get it, but most are too wrapped up in attachment to their own sense of freedom, despite the loneliness.
  23. Tai Chi is a Bastardization of Daoism

    You are beginning to listen!
  24. Tai Chi is a Bastardization of Daoism

    If that type of person was inclined to read threads like this. Is it in the nature of that type of person to reveal their self to you? If not, why do any looking at all?