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How does one practice celibacy proberly? Drew is active in this field (more or less). Anyone else? Any must have books/techniques for this? After reading drew's posts he says full lotus+mco are enought for his version. But he had also the magnetization, fasting, he talks about the automatic universe when in fullotus and so on. Any other practice/system to transform the sexual energy when celebate?

1. Do they the annealing? As far as I know nearly no ones does this part as its to expensiv but from Hudsons description it was probably the most important. 2. Most people in the ormus group say the description from Hudsons patents isn't complete how do they know that it is the same method?

Is it only me or wasn't one of the main points in the documentation you are refering to that they have started to go more into public so their techniques won't get lost as the world around them has changed?

Plants, Animals and so on have a great variety of chromosome numbers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_number_of_chromosomes_of_various_organisms Reeves's Muntjac have also 46 chromosomes. To say there was a genetical manipulation because we have 46 chromosomes instead of 48 like other primates sounds to me like there was a genetical manipulation because we are not like the animal primates. Strange argument for me. Cant say something about the Annunaki or if the last two are fused but from the posted link it seems some animals have the same 2 sex chromosomes.

Imo at least 50% around ormus is more or less scam.

Concerning the "workout"/strengthening of memories by repetition: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdgqZb5HMfI

It seems you are interpreting the chatter in ones head as a workout for the brain. The talking in the head uses just a smaller part of the brain and it is not necessary to remember or understand something.

Well my original intend was to send one of the members a pm for this but I got with every try an error message so I will post it here. As I'm currently not able to attend to a seminar where one teaches Red Phoenix I was reading over the last months most Kunlun/RP related posts on TTB and some other sources to get an idea about RP. What I have reconstructed from this so far is: One part seems to be a mudra: Right hand in front of the chest(facing to the left side) and the left hand below the navel (facing upward). The middle finger from both hands touches the related thumb. I think you have to place also the tongue up behind the front teeth. There seems to be also a concentration/energy part in it around the head area which so far I haven't decided from the different information pieces what it is. The close down seems to be left hand placed on dantian and right hand placed on the left. Could anyone deny or confirm for me if what I have reconstructed so far is correct or even close to RP as I will try next to figure out the rest and it would help to know if the basis is correct.

Ah thx, now I see what winpro07 was refering to.

I haven't seen him posting this and I'm quiet sure he didn't as I don't know him any better than you. Mal, no offense but are you posting already around we are friends? You shouldn't do this in such an early and critical phase. Hehe, sorry I'm just joking around so cut the last two sentence. I'm from Europe so no we don't know each other. The Aaron I was refering to is around 14 year old and it was just a person I know with the name Aaron - no connection to Kunlun. That's why i placed the smiley there.

First Steve now Aaron? I'm pretty sure we have never meet in real life and most probably not in another taoist forum. This is also the first account that I use to discusse more or less actively on TTB. So I would be extremely surprised if you would be able to guess my name. And no my name is neither Steve nor Aaron but I know of at least one Aaron if this helps.

Not in my reality. 1. I never claimed to post an instruction or teaching anything or that anyone has teached me this. So no one can claim I was teaching or have instructed them wrongly. 2. The information I posted is already available in public. If I was able to find it everyone will be able to find it with a little bit of time.

Imho one can easily cheat himself with a "strange its the same time again there must be a significance" mentality and your subconciousness will even help you with this. Nevertheless we aren't intending to throw the baby out with the bath water because of this or do we?

Burning a CD/DVD is normaly straight forward - likely reasons with the given information for such an error are limited to the basics: His Notebook/PC isn't able to burn dvd's (or only dvd-r dvd+r but it seems he has tested both). The dvd has already content on it. He uses a software that doesn't support dvd or he selected something differnt e.g. create data-cd. If he uses a common software there aren't much other options left.

I respect your opinion in this matter but don't agree currently. Nevertheless maybe I will remove some parts later. I haven't decided yet. http://www.kunlunbliss.com/teachers.html http://www.primordialalchemist.com/facilitator.html You can ask them if they teach RP. I can't comment if Red Phoenix is needed but this is what someone posted: Kunlun opens the energy Red Phoenix directs the energy Red Dragon amplifies the energy So what do you think would have been different with a transmission? I have seen some posts from people with transmission of the kind: to strong for me - i will not continue until a longer period of kunlun basics - hard to think clearly with it running - shouldn't be taught in the beginning - its advancing to fast/running on its own - and so on. Sounds for me similar.

Doesn't sound like it's the same practice: "Eva will also introduce the Red Phoenix Callisthenics System [...]" http://www.shambhalamountain.org/programs/773 I have seen different interpretations for this number and stumbled also once over chaos. Some people interpret it as a number of fortune, number of christ, all possibilies, wealth and so on. Lots of possibilities to choose from. It seems with all the posts on TTB it is hard to find the right one. I have seen someone posting the same hint in an old thread but so far wasn't able to find the mentioned post with the complete description. Only complete Kunlun 1 descriptions. For RP there were mainly information pieces like - it is somewhat similar to third eye breathing - you don't take energy in from the outside just move it - no visualization only feeling the moving - move energie between two points in the head - activate third eye, center of head and top of head - and so on. Its like a small puzzle. I would appreciate it if you could hint the direction for the post you were refering to.

Can you explain why it was in a inappropriate manner?

I haven't sen't the message to you so even if it got through why are you posting as if you know anything about it? Yes I have sent the message yesterday and also I have created the thread yesterday. At least in my timezone it was yesterday for both. Is this a witch hunt?

Not sure about this but in the description of the last seminar and the new ones they haven't mentioned RP. There are two reasons why I haven't been on a seminar so far. First I'm a little bit short on money but this "problem" would be only a question of time as after one or two years there would probably be enough for a seminar. The other problem is the transmission. I don't like it if someone teaches you only after you allow them to zap you. Even after finding an faciliatior whom I would fully trust (if this is even possible without knowing someon personally for some time) it would give me a hard time to allow this.

They say you can tell a child as often as you wan't "the plate is hot and you will burn your hands" but still they won't learn it until they have experienced it once. I guess for the matchbox the only question would be if the child burns only himself or the complete house down. I know some/most will think this is stupid but for me it can from time to time be helpfull to fall until I have learned something or got it my way...

Yes I got it just a moment ago. Thanks for the answer. It's not what a person told/wrote to me, all what I have posted above was from freely available resources and a little bit interpretation. I had also something like a vision from what I thought is the last part (the one where I wrote that I haven't decided yet). But as you wrote if not even the basis is accurate I will have to reconsider the next days if I'm onto something different than RP that is worth to experiment with or not. Maybe I will see in some years when the time is right a facilitator, I don't know. So again thanks for the answer, I think this should be enough for me to research/experiment again on my own.

What are you talking about? My "I will try next to figure out the rest" wasn't implying I will pm anyone or ask here around. Please don't interpret into my text something who isn't there... And who did I "IM'ing" about this? As I wrote there was one message i tried to send two times to one person today but got both times an error and the text was the same as I have posted here. The same yes no question was in the messag, not more and not less.

I haven't asked directly for a sharing of rp. All I asked for was a yes or no concerning the last line.

Paying 3500$ to be one out of 260 people for some days - without any real preconditions for the attendees in connection with the system - even if they have more than a hand full of assistant teachers who exclusively are for the peoples there I'm not getting the impression of a highly complex rocket science where a teacher has to correct you every other moment. At least it seems they don't think that it is one. Of course this is only the impression I get from the event description.

Mantra posted once about the long shipping duration and from what he wrote lulu hasn't any of the books in stock as they(mantra) produce them by themself depending on orders.