Apech

Whose? Yours?

They love a bit of suffering!

I’m more drole than troll 🧌

This is a q&a thread so I think that goes with the territory.

This is a shame.

No because some people are delusional and/ or dishonest - so why would you see them as they see themselves? I think being kind is moral - which involves respecting others - but beyond that you have to be true to yourself.

I’d never thought of it that way round

Anyway I’ve lost my budh it has been announced.

Do you remember which sutra that is from?

I can’t understand it explainerly.

I am being thick - I really can’t follow what you are saying.

@Maddie Given this is a forum dedicated to energy arts (for want of a better term) isn't it a reasonable question to ask what happens energetically when you transition - and in particular how changes in the physical body produce a change in the subtle body? Also from the point of view of rebirth/reincarnation - doesn't this contextualise the instance of being born in the wrong body in one particular incarnation. Do you have any thoughts on this?

Perhaps we should all swing both ways

Yes the name Judith Butler came to my mind too - I once tried to read some of 'Gender Trouble' or maybe it was an essay about it - but I got nowhere - the language was far too dense for me. If gender is performative - thus something you act out - then it would be quite fair to suggest that what is normative behaviour for a gender is socially determined. History is full of people who refused to conform - George Sand comes to mind but I am sure there are lots of examples. But even here there is a difference between some one who says for instance ' I am a woman but I refuse to act in the way that others (society) demands' and being trans- Or at least i suppose there is a difference. I worked in fairly 'normal' environments through the 70's, 80's, 90's etc and can remember the general discomfort among some when women gradually began to take on new work roles. In the long run people accepted it but initially a woman being anything other than a typist was quite rare - and professions were quite male orientated. (not that this is particularly relevant except from the vantage of the old man's bench ).

which bit of wanting a penis, a beard , a low voice and no boobs led you to this conclusion?

heck! when I do sitting and forgetting I have ‘memories’ which are not my own. Quite vivid and elaborate scenes and people which I realize I have never known or seen before. It’s quite weird.

what are the side effects?

man up nungali

Reminds me of a book you recommended years ago ‘The Shaman and the Heresiarch’

Hang on ... there's something about the formula 'old foggy = Apech' which I don't warm to. lol.

I think there are deeper levels to what constitutes a person than body and mind. I don't find the arguments made by these videos at all convincing - they seem very glib and superficial to me. This is not a criticism of you and what you are doing by the way - just how I see these important issues being addressed.

I'm not sure if this can actually be true. I wonder if you could say why you think this. Yes. Something deeper. Spirit likes variety I think.

I wonder if this has to do with moving focus onto the heart centre - rather than head or belly (which is where most men dwell). Why did cultivation make you sexually indifferent. This seems a strange thing to me - as most men get more sexually charged by working with jing/qi until it becomes a problem.

Maddie Yang- yin ! Can you tell us about any internal psycho spiritual changes you went through - or are going through?