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OK I will try to work out how to do that.

Woah sexy diagram - not sure I agree with it all though, but hey. I think the basic idea is we are composite beings until we integrate - then we become 'selves' in the true sense. Until then we are just a bundle of stuff and inconsistencies (!)

I don't think it is possible to hold it at arms length - I don't think I implied one should do so did I? I think that most people deny its existence but that it still operates within them. But that is provided we take the Yin aspect definition and not the negative block one. People on here seem to use either. In my case I was comparing it to the Egyptian 'shade' which is an aspect of a person. The collection of negative blocks was called either Rerek or Apep (depending on whether it was seen as a kind of host of inimical forces or as one negative being). I think perhaps our ordinary consciousness (ego?) reacts to the presence of the shadow self in a negative way, because the ego is built on defensive positions about ourselves as socially acceptable beings and does not like the idea of a darker side to our nature - something which is unrestrained and carries a certain danger (?). Our culture reinforces the light versus dark narrative I guess - and this gets mixed with good versus bad. Nothing - I wasn't saying that. And I don't know what the Buddhist terminology for these ideas would be - but perhaps it would be something to do with shunyata. Not sure because I am still trying to understand what Jung meant anyway. I think the idea is to integrate the dark and the light isn't it? I see the integrated being as the source of power and not the dark exclusively - it would be as much of a mistake to go completely Yin as it would be to go completely Yang (?) - do you agree? Perhaps mirage was the wrong word - what I meant was that to go completely Yin would give a feeling of power which is not equal to the Tai Chi integration ...maybe. I'm not being dogmatic just searching for the right terms.

its called almendres near evora in Portugal dated to between 6th and 4 th millennia BC - very impressive and large stone circle google almendres cromlech on wiki

I think there may be a fundamental difference in the Egyptian concept of shade and the shadow self - if it is true that the idea is that it is completely destroyed. In Egyptian thought opposites are resolved and the ‘foe’ is overcome but assimilated rather than destroyed - as in this quote from the ritual of the divine cult: ’ and the power of Set hides itself straightway before the eye of Horus which seizes it, brings it, and sets it upon the seat of Horus’ in other words the wholistic awareness of Horus assimilates the power of Set.

Please expand a little.

Not being familiar or straightforward denial which probably the usual choice for many.

There's quite a lot in Ancient Egypt about the shade or shadow as one of the aspects of a being. Unfortunately as usual with the Egyptian stuff they mention it a lot without explaining what it is. However it is clearly the part of us that relates to the dark rather than the light. I don't usually like Jungian stuff but on this occasion he is clearly on to something and I would say that for myself, facing into one's dark side is one of the first things that happens - and it is quite scary. There is a risk of over identifying with it because it seems powerful in a way - but you have to realise that its power is just part of the general mirage of power itself (if that makes sense). Becoming unified or whole - a whole being - is an enormous task - until then we are made of parts.

touching base

you know very well that I only exist as a figment of your imagination.

do you delete because you think your thoughts are not worth posting? Cos I think this place thrives on everyone sharing their ideas freely.

You know I’ve been on here since 2007 and I don’t think people here were ever as nice as they are now. It’s quite a lovely atmosphere sometimes. I know there are still spats occasionally but nothing compared to the old days. Perhaps we had to go through all that to get here but which ever way it’s quite an achievement I think.

sorry for asking I was just intrigued ….

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I hope @liminal_luke will tell us what a spirit calendar is !

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you love to delete - she person

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I read somewhere, possibly on here, that the difference in Latitude (i.e. North- South position relative to the equator) affects the position of the LDT - and therefor by extension the configuration of our subtle bodies. Not perhaps a fundamental difference because we are all more or less the same in that respect, but perhaps in the more subtle tensions and flows etc. which occur. I have long held the thought that the same is true of East - West location but in a different way. There are difficulties with this because of course East and West are relative directions and not polar ones. The further West you go - you end up in the East (like Christopher Columbus travelling West to try to find the East). The best conclusion I can come to is that it is to do with the inner or outer focus of attention. A more Eastern position is more inner and more 'mental'; while a Western position is more outer and more body focussed. Of course one would have to debate where exactly is the most Eastern and where is the most Western - and I would suggest India and America respectively. With respect to empires and colonisation etc. there is no doubt that these things bring harm to some, but on the other hand without the movement to a global perspective we wouldn't have the ideas and insights that we do have at our disposal. DaoBums would not exist for instance - or its hard to see how it could. Unless you are an ethno-nationalist then you have to accept that all cultures involve some mixing and interaction. Without that we would all exist in our own little domains knowing little of each other. Westerners doing yoga and Tai Chi are culturally appropriating something not natural to them - but surely we would argue that this is all to the good - other wise give up now