rain

Still a few hundred million years before they finish forming.

 

 

 

If . If . trouble.

 

Pink Light

very nice of you to first calm me then warn me. sweet

:lol:

I'll just continue reading you are right there certainly is alot of mythology

You arent being very clear about what you want me thinks,.

 

Electra, but you dont want mythology,. So do you want Chinese mythology?:

 

Well as I know it is one of the seven moon stations of the White Tiger constellation.

The key star of the moon station is Epsilon Tau.

Chinese character symbol for it is: having to do with water. Maybe rain catcher? haha. Sorry.

 

Electra would be part of this moon station but the mantra and hand seal eludes me right now. haha,.

 

 

Divine mother? Doesnt that sound like Kwan Yin?

 

 

 

North American Natives especially plains peoples claim "White Buffalo Woman" was from pleiadies. Notice the simliarity with Kwan Yin and the previous?

"White Buffalo Womans the Teton Sioux their "Seven Sacred Rituals".are they related to the seven stars? btw someone spoke about our sun being the brother of these seven sisters.

Am I trying to contact someone? Brother you are way beyond me.

 

Placed on the back of the sign of Taurus...I find she is invisible yet biggest and brightest, this is odd?. I find she is huge due to expansion by exhausting her hydrogen core/cernel. She spins so fast her core denses and she lasts longer. Mythologically She is connected to Troy and the phoenicians. Like the norrøn tales about the Jotne she is connected to the mating of gods and humans.

 

It has a few different uses in Folklore/Chinese magic.

 

I guess I am not understanding what you are trying to do. Are you trying to perform a specific ritual? Are you trying to contact someone?

 

More Links:

 

 

http://www.crystalin...m/pleiades.html

http://en.wikipedia....onstellation%29

http://en.wikipedia...._constellations

http://en.wikipedia....ctra_%28star%29

I checked and didn't see how to send you a PM. I have my PM turned off, but please email me, you can do that through my profile page. Anyway, you have already written the answer to yourself but missed it Look and you shall see

I have?

where where where?

chasing tail..

 

I have some info for you but I see you have email and PM turned off. You can email me if you wish.

I believe you have some information about Electra?

Thanks for noticing the pm setting.

I mostly navigate by intuition. Thank you for your patience.

I've learned a lot today surfing, very curious of what you have to tell

BTW your PM system aint working either ))))) but I hope I fixed mine

G

I know there is a lot of "info" out on the Pleiades but I just discovered that a Star there is called

Electra.

Maybe some TBum knows Electra? I would love to learn as much as possible about this star...?

(and not the myth around the electra/oedipus etc complex thank please & thank you)

Thank you... you are beautiful back at you!

 

 

Here's something else that just went into my little bag of tricks... A new crop circle appeared in June, which aficionados of this art form have been interpreting as a coded message related to the BP oil thing. However, to me it deciphered itself as the I Ching hexagram 23 with a changing line in the 5th place, giving hexagram 20. Of course it's just one layer of the overall meaning, but that's interesting enough. Apparently we did wrong by the fish and it was noticed in other worlds, possibly by beings who are far more interested in dolphins and whales than they are in our species. Now these being are watching the developments closely.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=dwCuHj4ENQg

alerts & gives me the shivers

and swings my attention back to lovely mr. Peter Kingsley's writings on the Pheonicians.

aaand the fixation we had on nagas and serpents aaand...

bbrrreathe

sigh...

It feels good to be understood... thank you!

 

Pattern recognition anyone?.. It doesn't matter if you "believe" in any of the pattern's constituent details... what matters is, can you see any patterns at all on your own?.. without repeating the repeaters?.. 'cause you know, this pattern recognition thingie happens to be the main, if not the only, way to get any "meaning of life" out of the human experience to begin with?..

 

The cauldron, meanwhile, bubbles, bubbles...

Great. you are beautiful ))

No doubt petitions influence politics.

Sign and feel foolish

Feel foolish and look for more action

Meditating?

My time in this forum has come to an end.

 

I wish all the best to those who are truly spiritual seekers, to the rest same thing from a fun perspective.

 

All the best,

 

Gerard aka Durkhrod Chogori.

thank you, be blessed

Sounds good to me.

" When thought returns to stillness then that is stillness within movement of the mind, which is much harder to achieve than stillness within movement of the body."

 

Thank you for this sentence Starjumper. It means a lot. I've enjoyed your thoughts.

Hi Rain,

 

thanks for your thoughts... and it's definitely a good idea to watch out for when we tense up in response to a subject... relax and don't let the bastards grind us down.

 

What information do you mean my sources are of? If of the happenings in the Gulf in the context of other happenings in the world, that's thousands of hours of prior research, some ten years invested into trying to "get it," with zero reliance on syndicated media sources at that --

so I specifically asked everybody to keep the thread politics-free because I don't want to talk outta you know what and to talk out of my research would hijack my life into something pretty endless, and that's what I was trying to avoid. If your question is about where I get the information that the process in the Gulf is alchemical in its nature, which is exactly what I wanted to explore --

well, that's the kind of recognition you get from having been exposed to alchemical processes yourself, you don't youtube that, nor google, you use your pattern recognition skills... or rather, they use you?..

 

The reason I want to get input from similarly pattern-recognition-trained folks is that there's many blanks in the picture and many disinformation sources and non-information sources that I want to bypass, and to be able to do that, I have to understand the logistics of the process myself. E.g., Gerald Celente, a rather famous and very accurate American trend forecaster, publisher of the Trends Journal, hasn't dis- or mis-informed me in the past, unlike CNN et al... so when he says the disaster itself will generate trillions of dollars for the very people who have created it, the taoist in me makes note of a "gold making process" and hypothetically phases it in. Then she (the taoist in me) looks at Western external alchemical tradition and notices that fire-water are used in conjunction with lead-mercury, e.g., and starts looking for lead-mercury in the process unfolding to see if it fits the picture. No information is available, e.g., about the composition of Corexit, the formula is secret (and the name orwellian, and the obligatory x in it disturbing), but I know that any hint from anywhere of lead and mercury in it would corroborate the alchemical picture, while a definitive absence of any from anything used would make me question it. And so on.

 

I have to look at multiple sources "holographicaly" to get it, something very complex can't be simplified to any simple explanation without generating a lie. And what's going on is easily the most complex thing to ever go on. I worked as a technical writer for oil and gas inustries for a few years in the beginning of my working life, and my both parents are professionals in the field -- my father headed a research lab and my mother designed major pipelines. So when I say "complex" I mean I have somewhat of a frame of reference...

w a y complex... so I can't call what I have "information" yet... just a feel for its nature and dimentions, more like...

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get your drift. posted a lengthy response that a new firefox alert chased away. I forgot to mention the sweet qigong water the grandmasters are making, what do you know of this Taomeow? is there saccarids involved?

I've been wondering if there is some connection btw natural oils, being "liquid consisting of a complex mixture of hydrocarbons of various molecular weights, and other organic compounds, and

how will the oil and groce amount of plastic pollution already in our oceans influence our organisms?

("The hydrocarbons in crude oil are mostly alkanes, cycloalkanes and various aromatic hydrocarbons while the other organic compounds contain nitrogen, oxygen and sulfur, and trace amounts of metals such as iron, nickel, copper and vanadium"

"Two petrochemical classes are olefins including ethylene and propylene, and aromatics including benzene, toluene and xylene isomers. Oil refineries produce olefins and aromatics by fluid catalytic cracking of petroleum fractions. Chemical plants produce olefins by steam cracking of natural gas liquids like ethane and propane. Aromatics are produced by catalytic reforming of naphtha. Olefins and aromatics are the building blocks for a wide range of materials such as solvents, detergents, and adhesives. Olefins are the basis for polymers and oligomers used in plastics, resins, fibers, elastomers, lubricants, and gels.")

Are we slowly turning into cyborgs? from what I've heard millions have already implanted or injected silicon..

how will this influence our ability to perform alchemical process?

ahem. feeling silly.

I'm looking for some input from alchemists -- primarily taoist practitioners, but Western alchemy literati are also welcome --

and I'm opening this thread in hopes of keeping it to the point, to wit, limited to alchemical concerns. If anyone wants to promote or debunk anything political in relation to the issue, please open your own thread for the purpose or contribute to the one (not this one) already in existence on the board.

 

So here goes. Far as I can see in terms of raw primal energies involved, BP et al are engaged in a Water-Fire alchemical process for the purpose of producing Gold, in the classic traditions of Western external alchemy but on an unprecedented (far as I know) scale. I will not debate whether it was "done" rather than "happened" (please, another thread, anyone who would like to debate this), my premise is that it is in fact taking place, why it is taking place and whether it is taking place spontaneously or as a result of careful preparation prior to the fact, I leave entirely out. I would like to focus on the actual alchemical dynamics involved and enrich my own budding understanding with what others can see, sense, intuit, intellectualize, connect, and so on. What do you see happening, alchemically speaking?

Taomeow, this is an intensely fascinating subject that instantly makes me tense up, which I try to avoid,, so I will post quickly and resume to my calm silent work.

I assume there are several taoists on the board with chemical expertise, all I want to say is;

What were your sources on this info? Would you care to share them with us?

(There has been discussed numerous variants of water, connected to taoist alchemy, we have the fusing of water and fire from Chia and other systems, ..one speaks of the Water method with the cool downwards flow..there is the ether/moist/vapour following qigong & primordial breathing.. in my experience I have now mentioned atleast two different kinds of water..then there is the water that is produced in the brain that Drew talks about in the bigu thread. I don't know if the distillation of nectar would count here?) ok. withdrawing now.

This is significant, remember the twelve storied pagoda?

 

There is a poem in the nei jing engraving about the bridge of the tounge and a pagoda I will look it up:

bump

most interested

death awareness

 

 

Nevermind I mis interpreted the word

but I still am deeply insulted

I will probably be insulted at least for one loong week.

and the fart

gonna do you good

snort

haha of whats potential?

your brain prhps

Good. Well if fac ..what did you say again..if I was being Facetious..or not..? MM.. YaMuyou are to slick for me.

I guesswhat YaMu is saying is..something like..all fascists areidiots and being an idiot you are fascist? Right no?

 

Your answer was meagre. I am not offended. This was not smart enough.Ther is a lot we don't know about alot of things andyou have in my eyes belittled yourself.

" As th Phytons say "I fart in your general direction" and you should feel honored

I have smelled this "If you don't think as I do " energy from you a loong time now.

I would NEVER chose you as a teacher just because of this.

If the choochootrain of moderators are a comin to kick me out again they sure should

chop your head off for choosing to gravely insult a fellow taobum as well

There are frequency lists somewhere that show a variety of frequencies their synonomous manifestations (ie the orbit or Uranus) and effects on consciousness and physiology. I'll have to dig that back up. It had everything from the Schumann Resonance (heartbeat or breath of the earth) to the pitch of bonemarrow.

In the Pentatonic system each note is related to an element, and in this regard one could perform singles, couplets or tripplets, etc; it's important to note the Chinese and Japanese pentatonic scales are not linear, starting from the center outward, so in the following elements, Earth is actually the 'first' note with the rest cascading outward from this center or 'gung' note.

 

Wood Fire Earth Metal Water

 

Thank you for beingso generous and...patient with a student who is obviously a little ..denser then yourself.

and thank you for not tuning in on the

fac f

 

good water good water. My Sei Gung in Taoist arts uses a similar homeopathic method for charging individual curing water. Again, as Ya Mu explained, works well for single cures. I will not expound on this as Ya Mu has been gracious in sharing with us and in the spirit of service I wish to send gratitude in his direction.

 

I am curious if I can taste differences based on exposure to the individual elements in the pentatonic scale .... although the 'saturation' effect of the sympathetic harmonics is what seems to really 'charge' the water energetically exciting the molecules. "In my experience of having the water in my body charged the whole scale is used............"................................

.....................................

.

:0)

The charge lasts about a week, this is similar to what people w water machines experence when ionizing and alkalizing water. After this, the Structure remains, the smaller cluster groups of ionized water means more complex crystal structure, a deeper 'imprint' if you will, the benifits from structured ionized water being super hydration and an increased sense of well being due to being properly hydrated.

Transmitting

universal information?

to

structured water

would mean the already superior (pre atmosphere?) water has imprinted into it's memory (molecular organization) these universal harmonics.

THis I do not understand what is pre atmosphere water (clean water from a whell?)

Interesting theory, if you sat around in a cloudy mood w a glass of water next to you, when you drink it, would you be reminded of what you resonate? Likewise you receive harmonically structured water, get home from the post office and set it ontop of your sons loudspeaker blasting heavy metal .... Probably won't have the same effect.

exactly..so..;

I should be able to ship in a small Faraday Sheilding (similar to shipping electronics) which prevents exposure to EMF poolusion, and Sound Proof barrier would Hermetically seal it.

Very good.

So good water, treat it like mailing a disk? No xrays?

Honestly can't tell if you are really asking or being facetious. Please excuse my inability to discern what you wrote and I mean no disrespect in saying this. If you are being facetious then HA HA I will laugh too. On the premise that you are really asking then here is what I can tell you of what I know.

 

There are several here posting opinions on this; I am referring to medical qigong method.

 

It works really well; is not limited to any one thing; the more complicated a situation the more difficult it is for ONE water "tonic" to do everything; appears to work optimally for one thing but can address several things; water alone appears to not hold as long as within a liquid herbal mixture - how long this is depends on way too many factors to say; continues to work long after client/patient has drunk the "tonic"; have seen a Dit Da Jow that one of my students makes (adding this medical qigong method to it when bottling) still "hold" after 2 years / his Jow appears to work better than others but impossible to put any empirical evidence to this and I haven't tried all Jow's; I have really NEVER seen this method fail to have a noticeable positive effect; I do not sell this as a separate thing but use it as just another tool in healing at clinic and in workshops; there is a lot we don't know about this as currently these things can't be measured.

AND

 

Good. Well if fac ..what did you say again..if I was being Facetious..or not..? MM.. YaMuyou are to slick for me.

I guesswhat YaMu is saying is..something like..all fascists areidiots and being an idiot you are fascist? Right no?

Your answer was meagre. I am not offended. This was not smart enough.Ther is a lot we don't know about alot of things andyou have in my eyes belittled yourself.

" As th Phytons say "I fart in your general direction" and you should feel honored

This reminds me of little nicky alot lol

I take that as a sign from your subconscious that you doubt the ...the...profoundity

of IT*S potential

bottled?

water

it's us 70%

can anyone tell me

since soulthings and sacred healing and spirituality seems to be

tuned &

gonged & targeted, vibrated, aligned with

particular chakras,

meridians,

pathways btw organs..

just how do you stir water to make one particular student, say colonally content?

what exactly did you do?!

and

when gonging the emoto into the water, do we buy..compassion, calmness, happiness, emphaty or is there one concoction that alchemically alignes to the individual needs? how long doeswater keep memory? like ...Love fex.

:0)

will it be forever charged or will a wave in a bag when someone bumps into you and your purchased remedy on the tube neutralize it into

extinction?

should one need a crash course or ten, some chinese medicine and a tuning fork to ensure stable success?

So many questions. So much to learn.I am so curious to learn.

You are victim of continual misplaced emphasis. Forget about others, and forget about them and forget their problems and their ways. When you catch yourself thinking about how much others suck for this or that reason, and what you want to say to them, forget it. And forget it, and leave it alone. Its a trap like a maze with no end. Your ego is acting like a mirror, and just leave it. Imagine yourself thinking about them now, and now chop the thought off. Practise stilling the mind like the proverbial zen monk who sits for hours, and keep the focus on yourself and your own mind. The unbearableness of keeping ones on focus on ones own mind is expressed by critizing others, its a trap and you have to stop it. Its a slow process.

de_paradise

I believe you are accurate on this. Also being able to read the karmic patterns can be as you put it

a sinister trap - a neverending tricky maze.

Compassion and help is also tricky very tricky. One should be so lucky as to actually be doing good

Raymond Wolter

If you pose the question like this I have to say No.

My personal route was from hatha yoga to tkd, and tkd introduced ZZ.

I re encoutered the ZZ stance in qigong, less heavy, but the combination of

neigong and heavy static luohan stances released hormones in my blood that led to involuntary movements

when "locked and circulated" in the ZZ.

 

Kunlun came so much later. I was trained by then and used to standing spontaneous reactions, so

the strain in the sittting poses (for those who never trained ZZ) and groupmechanics

didn't get to me.

 

To me it looked like the announced powerful reactions kunlun initiated in a few

was a mix of expectations, groupsynergy (read grouphysteria)

and weak untrainedd legmusculature.

But I am such a sceptic.

I see spontaneous as an outcome of another qigong practise, as qiflow working in a closed circuit.

thinking..rather than flow better say qi working on the whole

making you feel like flow