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  1. 45 minutes ago, welkin said:

    My friend you are either delusional or crazy.

    I think I figured out what "Level 9 Magus" apparently is:

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    Delusional disorder is a type of serious mental illness in which a person cannot tell what is real from what is imagined.
    Grandiose. A person with this type of delusional disorder has an over-inflated sense of worth, power, knowledge, or identity. The person might believe he or she has a great talent or has made an important discovery.

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    Grandiose delusions (GD)

    According to the DSM-IV-TR diagnostic criteria for delusional disorders, grandiose-type symptoms include grossly exaggerated beliefs of:

        self-worth
        power
        knowledge
        identity
        exceptional relationship to a divinity or famous person.

    For example, a patient who has fictitious beliefs about his or her power or authority may believe himself or herself to be a ruling monarch who deserves to be treated like royalty.  There are substantial differences in the degree of grandiosity linked with grandiose delusions in different patients. Some patients believe they are God, the Queen of England, a president's son, a famous rock star, and so on. Others are not as expansive and think they are skilled athletes or great inventors.

    There are two alternate causes for developing grandiose delusions:

    • Delusion-as-defense: defense of the mind against lower self-esteem and depression.
    • Emotion-consistent: result of exaggerated emotions.
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    • Exaggerating your own achievements
    • Criticizing and dismissing other's achievements or talents
    • Constantly boasting and talking about yourself
    • Believing yourself to be infallible or invulnerable
    • Believing that you are more intelligent than others
    • Thinking that common rules don't apply to you
    • Acting selfishly
    • Treating others with disdain or contempt
    • Not caring if you hurt someone with your actions
    • Being quick to anger if you are challenged
    • Being unable to see how your behavior affects others
    • Being unable to see how unrealistic your beliefs and actions are

    See all the extreme, unproven claims and projections of misperception, here.  Basically, delusional grandiosity is inversely-proportional to the actual low self-esteem and depression.  The former is a subjective mask, the latter is the objective TRUTH.  So, another textbook mental disorder amongst the Catty Crew...  This is what I mean by TRUTH WORK

     

    GSMaster = GDMaster.

     


  2. 2 hours ago, GSmaster said:

    Why would I give a fuck?

    OK, but JUST TO BE CLEAR, you are claiming that you COULD (if you "gave a fuck") easily supraluminally type a 6 million+ word essay in ONE SECOND, correct?  (But just "don't care enough" to bother to...despite all your mental gymnastics here of why you "can.")  

     

    Which, BTW, would not only be a measure of your typing speed (360 MILLION wpm), but also your mental processing speed required to generate that sheer amount of coherent content in just...1 second...

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  3. 14 hours ago, GSmaster said:

    Lightspeed in 1 second is 8 times movement around the earth.

     

    So use the distance about earth and divide one second by the difference between the distance of finger and keyboard, which with whole movement around 0.5cm.

    Lol, you suck at math.  Why not just directly divide 300,000 m/s (SOL) by .01 m (.5 cm X 2 for each roundtrip keystroke) = 30,000,000 strokes/s.  So, you should be able to type at LEAST roughly 30 million characters/s...but actually more since you claim supraluminal speed now.  Now given that the average English word has 4.7 characters...if we allow 5 with punctuation/spaces...that would equate to ~6 million+ words/SECOND.

     

    OK, why don't you knock out a 6 million+ word novel real quick for us?  For reference, that's about 8 Bibles.  I know you're a busy guy, but it should only take you a second...literally?

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  4. 2 minutes ago, GSmaster said:

    This is clinical stage of idiotism.

    You asked to record a video of light speed.

    1 frame is 1 frame, there is nothing moving there at all.

    5 seconds at 60 fps is 300 frames, not 1.

    But it really doesn't matter whatever it looks like (red herring) - that's your concern, not mine.  If you video your keyboard and screen together in the same view, you should show a novel appear on your screen in 5 seconds as you type (visibly or not) if you really are typing at supraluminal speed.


  5. ^ Of course you could.  Imagine a baseball moving at the speed of light.  It moves perpendicularly through the beam of a flashlight.  You don't think some photons would be reflected back by it as it cuts through?

     

    Or if you shot any object at the speed of light through a laser or motion sensor...of course the beam would still be interrupted and it would still be detected.

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  6. 27 minutes ago, GSmaster said:

    There is no way possible to see things faster than speed of light with your eyes.


    You want me to record it on a video, that is 60fps. That is 16.67ms per frame. I will let you to calculate the speed of light in a ms per frame for few cm distance.

     

    The average human reaction speed, with which signal travels from eyes to brains and back is about 200ms.

    You said AT the speed of light.  And yes, you could still see something moving at the speed of light FROM THE SIDE.  Especially something reciprocating back and forth, like your fingers would be.  Of course, it would probably be a faint blur at best...but even that would be sufficient proof.  Watching your fingers blur as a novel simultaneously appears instantly on the screen, which you then hit post on for us to verify in real time.

     

    But, now you've also TRIPLED DOWN, twisted your own "facts," raised the bet, and claim to type at SUPRALUMINAL SPEED???  Like, you're literally claiming that your fingers can coherently hit keys moving faster than the speed of light, here??? 

     

    OK, so in layman's terms, a fast admin can type at 60 wpm.  How many wpm does your supraluminal typing generally equate to?  Or to make counting easier for you, how about wps?


  7. 23 minutes ago, GSmaster said:

    You are confusing perception with objective reality. Perception of a thing varies from a human to a human, as all people see world differently.

    Reality is the world being perceived by us.

    People who are weak mentally and have no level in cultivation are always confusing their perception for the outside reality.

    But I agree on a fact that you were polluting threads with colonialism bullshit and a cacophony of random internet pictures.

    Like I said before you should go for a long vippassana training and come back starting putting more organized thought in your posts and stop repeating things over and over again.

     

    Some people may believe I have attacked them when I have given them invaluable advice free of charge. That is their perception twisting things.

    3 hours ago, Nungali said:

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    :) 

    (random internet picture courtesy of your sidekick, Nungali, not me :D)

     

    Do you think that perhaps your "typing with superhuman reflexes at the speed of light" might just be your perception, and not objective reality...because you are "weak mentally with no level in cultivation?"  Especially when a keyboard OBJECTIVELY can't even process input that fast?

     

    If not, a quick 5-second video should easily prove your objective reality of that?  Or how about, simply type coherently for 2 seconds straight...at the speed of light, that should easily produce a novel.


  8. Lol, iron facepalm... :wacko:

    On 1/20/2020 at 2:48 AM, Earl Grey said:

    Yes, I know I did something similar to this before with the Everything thread, but enough is enough and this idiot brings no value whatsoever to this forum. I’m not calling for an outright ban, but I am sick of him invading and polluting every thread he meddles in and want to see who is willing to chime in an opinion on him or demonstrate exactly what value, if any, he brings here, because I sure as hell don’t see anything positive.

    1 hour ago, GSmaster said:

    Do you even realize this is your perception? 

    Stupid, nasty, bad will, if that is what you feel here, you should go inside yourself and find out what is troubling you so much.

     

    Not blame others or ask to close thread.

    1 hour ago, GSmaster said:

    It takes me zero effort and I am typing with superhuman reflexes and the speed of light.

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  9. And, just yet more confirmations of Incel theory, once you dig past the facades...

     

    Padma dated Rushdie when she was a struggling model and he was an award-winning author.  As her star rose, she eventually divorced him and got knocked up (without any commitment) by Adam Dell, a multimillionaire a-hole/Christian Grey-in-the-flesh.

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    Ric Ocasek was a gawky, but also 6'4" pop star...and Paulina still "abandoned" him in the end...

     

    Brooke Shields lost her V-card to a Princeton football player/literally Superman (Dean Cain).  And she dated a lot of other "alpha males" before her 2nd marriage to Chris...who wasn't bad-looking at all when they did.

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    Similarly, Edie Sedgewick was a junkie who OD'd 4 months after marrying Michael Post...whom she met in a psych ward...when he still looked like a Russell Brand wild child.  Which proves you don't need money or a stable personality if you look/act like this!

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  10. 14 hours ago, Walker said:

    @virtue

     

    Holy.

     

    Christian. 

     

    Colonial.

     

    Nathaniel Hawthorne.

     

    Jesus.

     

    Greatest post all time!

     

    This shit rises to the level of literature. I am humbled.

    (Too bad Gendao won't be, but hey, every village needs its volunteer laughingstock brigade, so as long as he's ready, willing, and incelibate...)

    Wow, fine Monica Lewinsky impression there.  By gawd you nailed it!

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    Lol, someone sends out the cat signal...and immediately comes the Catty Crew, right on cue! 

    On 1/22/2020 at 2:40 AM, Walker said:

    I agree that Gendao needs to stop swooping into thread after thread to "decolonialize" us with stupid, prejudiced, David Icke-esque caca. In a world with no such thing as a perfect option, I don't see why not to ban him. He doesn't seem to learn anything here, he hasn't convinced anybody of anything, he makes it so people can't have serious conversations about the very real problem of colonialism

    Well if I didn't decolonize this thread and start a "serious" discussion about colonization, then I guess someone else had to?  Because of course it's "different" when someone else does it, lol.


  11. On 8/29/2019 at 2:17 AM, gendao said:

    Well, of course they're bros following the same left hand, Christian, colonialist path - based upon upon the Bible, Bulls, & BullETs!

    Recall the etymological meanings of EL?  Well, EL/Elite/Alpha = Sacred BULL/Bully/Bullion...hence the deeper attachment to cattle ranching and BEEF for Christians!  Every flame-broiled burger they chomp down is a ritual holocaust animal sacrifice!

    Point being that CHRISTIAN MIND CONTROL does have a huge influence on human beliefs/behavior!

    Interesting how BULL RANCHING is also the most damaging form of livestock on the planet, for multiple reasons...gee, what a "coincidence!"

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  12. 9 minutes ago, ilumairen said:

    Speaking of "basic instinct," long ago I read an article which focused on females generally stronger sense of smell, and how this correlated with subconsciously sensing genetic issues which could be passed on to their offspring if they chose particular mates.

    EXACTLY.  When they are young and looking to breed, it's like their eggs have a radar that senses the PRIME POWER they want to absorb like the Sun.  When a "hot" man's stock gets a spike, it's like he can feel this magenetic draw he has on women...with all eyes on him.

     

    And this has NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS PERSONALITY.  AT ALL.  ZERO.  That is simply a bald-faced lie.

     

    Of course, this mating signal steadily weakens and gets muddled with age and more and more baggage piling on, lol...

     

    But you can see and feel it most clearly in free, young women.


  13. 14 minutes ago, ilumairen said:

    More pop-culture? I've spent much of my life being what I once referred to as pop-culturally illiterate, and am beginning to recognize it is still a personal preference. 

     

    BTW There waa no assumption on my part; he's on my "follow" list and I've been reading his ppd for a rather long time now. But I suppose you wouldn't be happy posting without some odd visual reference... carry on.

    I was just using that for illustrative purposes.  My actual opinion is based upon personal experience and knowing many other couples.  I personally know of no other married couple from Gen-X and younger that is not teetering on the brink of divorce, held together only by gossamer threads...  I mean, I'm sure there's some, but then again, maybe not?  I just don't know...as once you get to peer behind their facades, they're all simmering Hot or Cold Wars.

     

    I've read his PPD posts too - and don't recall much specific mention of his marriage other than just referencing that he is.

     

    Again, this is why I think perhaps the natural, primal free-for-all might not just be our natural state.  Women just want to fvck Alpha, and men just want to fvck all the women they can.  So, why not?


  14. 37 minutes ago, thelerner said:

    I remember being single and looking, as awfully scary.  Like continual job interviews.  Get turned down enough and you get gun shy.. angry, at woman, at yourself.  And that anger at woman, left unchecked is gonna set up a feedback loop thats going to add to ones problem.

    I would agree that it is better to just accept the basic TRUTH about women, than get angry at them for following their basic instincts.  Reality is, Mother Nature is a beast.  She is raw, primal, beautiful, savage, wild, and creative chaos...like kundalini.  She is the circle that cannot be squared.  There is 1 egg for every ~250 million sperm in a load, which means many males were born to be incels from, well, cells...

     

    So...so what if more grown men become incels?  That's Mother Nature's form of eugenic "quality" control.  It is what it is.

     

    They do have a right to be angry at being so misunderstood and often forced to socially support women who totally sh*t on them, though.

    20 minutes ago, ilumairen said:

    And yet, you're now happily married with older children...

    In general, that's a bad assumption...

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  15. 6 hours ago, Nungali said:

    Actually, I know people, including some  once close friends , a GF ,   and a person with mental issues that have been damaged by doing those meditations. 

     

    I even went to talk to them once about the mental patient they had put into their 'meditation' , she was staying  at my place trying to  get better. They took her on, and when she got worse, they dumped her out .  I asked them why they trigger people then dump them back on me to take care of .  Their response was 'Its her issue, not ours. "

     

    GF did that practice for ages , she  focalised workshops on it and taught it to people . She did the meditations for years . Id did nt improve her one iota - she never got over her issues and her guilt and specifically her jealousies ... which I never had and I never did any of that shit !

    So, the mental patient was triggered by the meditation, but kicked out by the "cult."  That's not damaged to me and the blame would go to the cult (not meditation) for accepting a mental patient that they later kick out.

     

    Your girlfriend failed to cure her character issues (very common).  IOW, it didn't damage her, it was just somewhat ineffective.  OK.

     

    I still see no real damaging effects of the meditation itself, here.  It just triggered one case and didn't do that much for the other.


  16. 5 hours ago, ilumairen said:

    Another false correlation; she's not involuntarily celibate.

    Well, there is no direct equivalent, because there is basically no such thing as a female incel.

     

    But she is a counterpart in the sense that she is also perpetually single, not due to her personality or looks, but for no other reason than simply because she refuses to put out and have sex.  Which thus boils down relationships to their CORE ESSENCE.  That is the simple TRUTH.

    1 hour ago, thelerner said:

    Isn't there a large middle ground, where people want to hook up and have realistic views of the opposite sex?  Realizing that they themselves aren't rich, great looking or that charismatic and want to find a good person?   That the opposite sex are human like themselves; don't view them as evil or manipulative, that they can be warm caring funny sexy entertaining aggravating engaging. 

     

    If Incels can't reach that point of understanding.  If they use social media to reinforce how victimized they are by woman, then there's little hope of hooking up.  Not the end of the world, but too bad.  Men and woman compliment each other.  A good relationship is a warm hearth.   

    Well, their proposition is that they are so ugly that they don't fall in the middle ground to begin with.  And furthermore, this middle ground has also been shrinking due to female hypergamy, since no one needs to exclusively and permanently pair off 1-to-1 anymore.  Therefore, if everyone is just going for hook-ups without demanding commitment, then a majority of women don't mind time-sharing Alpha anymore, who offers no exclusivity or commitment.

    Is HIS personality just "so great?"  Better than Shahan's?

     

    Again, these are extreme examples just used to better isolate and illustrate general trends.

     

    There is also clearly a lot of subjectiveness to what's "hot," etc, etc...

     

    I have literally seen this my entire life, to some degree, no lie.  But also some seeming exceptions to that rule (or just different subjective standards?).  Hasn't everybody?  Is this really some big secret?

     

    What if all the common aphorisms are really backwards?  What if the secrets to life are that...money CAN buy happiness?  Looks ARE everything?  Might IS right?  Romantic love is EXTREMELY conditional.  Maybe both versions of each are right, situationally and paradoxically, lol?


  17. 4 hours ago, ilumairen said:

    They're not whining? :lol:

    No, Dame Du Lac basically verified the Incel thesis that Looks >>> Personality when she said how both "alpha males" with harems and incels have equally "unattractive" views of women.  If anything, the alpha males may just be more dishonest about them.

     

    Which would also explain why a 5'7", slightly-balding Indian guy still fails at dating at 30...even with a great, upbeat, and non-whiny personality.

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    So, now what happens when this friendly gentleman goes on a (BLIND, of course, lol) date?

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    Holly: “The potential to meet the man of my dreams (although I’m not sure if Aidan Turner has time to date between filming).”
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    Holly: “He wasn’t quite Aidan Turner.”
    Holly: “No, I don’t think we were a great match, but we still had fun (and the steak was delicious).”
    Holly: “Shahan is extremely open and friendly, and made me feel at ease.”
    Holly: “I would have had more wine.”
    Holly: “No, we went our separate ways.”
    Holly: “Not for me I’m afraid.”
    Holly: “Not for a date, but maybe as friends.”

    IOW, she thought he had a good personality, but she just wasn't even interested from the GET-GO because he didn't have prerequisite TV star looks...much less the ultimate (Incelist) fantasy of being a hot, wealthy, dominant, alpha male with "considerable length," lol. So, the only thing she enjoyed on their date was the free dinner, although she wished she could have chugged more booze while she had the chance, lol.


    Meanwhile, Aidan Turner could fart in her direction and she would sniff it deeply until her thighs quiver... :lol:

     

    Of course, a lot of this female sexual leverage is actually supplied by men who no longer have to marry a woman to get sex anymore.  Thus, with that high bar removed...it's become a limbo contest for men for how low each will go to blow their nuts.  In this scenario, nearly any woman will do...except even the most beautiful women will be avoided if they refuse sex!

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    Lolo Jones has long been open and honest about being a virgin. But now, the 37-year-old athlete says that her candidness “was a mistake.”
    she admitted that being an open book about waiting until marriage hasn’t done good things for her dating life. Instead, she said that her brutal honesty has only hurt her chances of finding a man.
    “That killed all my dates after that,” Jones said of publicly discussing her virginity. “Like didn’t even have a chance. Before, at least I had a chance. Before, I’d like, tiptoe. ’Okay, when’s a good time to tell him? Do I wait until he sees my personality a little bit? Or do I just drop the bomb?’”

    So, there ya go - now the female counterpart - a 37-yo single woman.  Clearly, it's not her "whiny personality" that is the problem here, right?  In fact, isn't being openly honest about maintaining your personal values displaying high integrity?  Rather, it's simply that she REFUSES TO HAVE SEX UNTIL MARRIAGE.  Full stop.  So, what's the point of expending lots of time and energy (resources) dating her...when you can't have sex, right?  But you could more easily with someone else?

    What we are seeing here is thus that both genders' primary "romantic" value to each other has been reduced to sex...of which personality is nearly irrelevant.

     

    I know real life isn't necessarily as extreme as these examples...but I can certainly see the general trend as such, especially amongst the younger generation.

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  18. 3 hours ago, Dame Du Lac said:

    Eventually, they get to the point where they blame their problems on the shape of their skulls, even though I've talked to many incels, online and (unfortunately) in person who were actually physically attractive.

     

    The issue is overwhelmingly ideological, with incels constantly pushing misogyny and bizarre pseudo-science, not physical. A part of this is the moping, whiny attitude about how they feel they're entitled to sex. Believe me, I work in a male dominated field and there are some "alpha males" there. When you hear how these guys talk about women and sex in private, they're just as unattractive as an incel, the only difference is these guys are all cheating on their wives and not looking for a real relationship, so their hookups never get the chance to realize how gross they are, or else don't care because they're never doing this again.

    So, if the "alpha males" are getting MULTIPLE women but incels aren't...even though their views of women/sex are just as "unattractive"...then what's the difference?  They are simply more "alpha," are better BS artists (less honest), and/or more physically attractive?

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  19. 1 hour ago, Nungali said:

    as I clearly did not refer to Osho as the trouble maker .

    I asked what good did all  that  shaking and screaming do  for the people that where practising it .  Apparently , it had no effect on or even magnified the craziness of certain members .

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    That is a verrrryyy roundabout way to try to disprove his simple meditation method, FFS!

    Seriously, that is wayyyyyy too far a reach with too many unknown variables in between to even be a valid Yelp review.

    Rather, you would actually need a fair sample size of Yelp/Amazon-style user reviews of that specific meditation...to give it a fair, direct evaluation.  I know at least some people have had some mind-blowing, ayahuasca-like experiences from it...although for most it's probably a lot more mundane.  But a sudden urge to squirt salmonella all over salad bars is...probably pretty rare/nonexistent.

     


  20. 46 minutes ago, Nungali said:

    So now , you are going to shake it all out  via an Osho method .

     

    The cult infected 751 people with salmonella by contaminating restaurant salad bars. The 1984 attack, planned to incapacitate voters and allow it to win seats in a local election, led to a 20-year jail sentence for Sheela. "

    Again, try reading beyond the headlines for once?

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    At a press conference in September 1985, Rajneesh accused several of his followers of participation in this and other crimes, including an aborted plan in 1985 to assassinate a United States Attorney, and he asked state and federal authorities to investigate.

    on September 16, 1985, Rajneesh, who had recently emerged from a four-year period of public silence and self-imposed isolation (although he had continued to meet with his assistant) at the commune, convened press conferences: he stated that Sheela and 19 other commune leaders, including Puja, had left Rajneeshpuram over the weekend and gone to Europe.  He said that he had received information from commune residents that Sheela and her team had committed a number of serious crimes.  Calling them a "gang of fascists", he said they had tried to poison his doctor and Rajneesh's female companion, as well as the Jefferson County district attorney and the water system in The Dalles. He said that he believed they had poisoned a county commissioner and Judge William Hulse, and that they may have been responsible for the salmonellosis outbreak in The Dalles.  He invited state and federal law enforcement officials to the Ranch to investigate.  His allegations were initially greeted with skepticism by outside observers.

    Osho was the one who first alerted authorities that this mutinous, rogue "gang of fascists" may have carried out that food poisoning attack.  So not only was none of this under his direction - it was done independently of him, he was appalled by it, and he proactively acted to bring them to justice.

     

    I mean, any counterculture movement is also simply going to attract a bunch of nutjobs...in addition to sincere seekers.

     

    Anyways, more par for the course for dealing with you...lots of smokescreens, no fire.  Sorry, but your searchgong is seriously lacking, son.


  21. 1 hour ago, Nungali said:

    You might go on world population numbers but I am going on the nuer of innocents whipped beaten and killed .

    Did you just  LOL at   LGBT people getting a death sentence for being gay  !  ?

    Can you get it through that thick skull of yours yet that I am not a Christian nor do I like it or support it  ?

    Yes, well I'm judging by the full spectrum of homophobia and in sheer numbers...while you are clearly measuring by extremely violent acts of homophobia only.

    Although I already said that I would agree with you IF it were by that sole metric only.

    But given how Christianity and Islam are basically half-sibling rivals, it's a moot point, anyways.

    And I was laughing at your supposition that raises the bar for homophobia to killing...not the killing itself.

    That's like saying a country is not racist if they're no longer lynching some races.

    I know you're just playing dumb, though...errr, rrrright?

    I also know that you're not Christian...but you don't need to be Christian to be a Christian apologetic.

    Hope that clears everything up now?

    OK, now time to get out of our heads and shake it out, SHAKE IT OUTTTT!!!!  DON'T TALK LIKE A MADMAN, DANCE LIKE ONE!  The sheer amount of unprocessed trauma in this thread is absolutely volcanic and what is SUPERCHARGING all this hair-splitting shadowboxing by proxy.  Shadow work would be the prescription, but even shadow work is really a misnomer because considering such aspects as shadows is the problem to begin with.  Authentic Truth Work is what we all need, here.  And that truth can only be known intellectually secondhand, experientially felt firsthand, and become/unbecome zerohand when the doing replaces the doer.


  22. On 1/24/2020 at 3:08 AM, Toni said:

    Let's do the poll well. We can ask something like, do you currently have a gf/wife/lover? I think everybody can participate under 40, not just people from USA. I am from Europe... It will be funny. Do u agree with the question? (Sugar babies and prostitutes obviously don't count as lovers...)

    Well, if you think it's bad in Europe...then you've obviously never been to the US before, lol!

    I've been to both, and the US is a wholleee 'nother ball game, bro!  That's why it has been GROUND ZERO for all the various men's movements (PUA, MRA, MGTOW, INCEL, etc, etc).

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  23. 13 hours ago, Nungali said:

    AND   !  If you had said     'Abrahamic   religion s '   instead of   'Christianity' ,   in the first place  .... we would not be even having this conversation  -  genius  !

    Oh yeah , and you  sorta skimmed past the death penalty stuff .    Isn't gay people being put to death a strong enough point for you to take into account ?

    Or do you just ignore those mostly Islamic countries that put gays to death as it doesn't support your attempt at 'proving stuff '  ?

    No, Christians colonized faarrr more landmasses/people on the planet than Muslims, to begin with - North & South America, Australia, Europe, and parts of Africa and Asia.  Whereas Sharia law exists largely only in the Islamic homelands of the Mid East, and some outposts in Africa and Asia today.  So historically and in present-day, Christians have had far more people all over the world under their DOMINION (where the aboriginal heathens were killed or forcefully converted).

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    The Bible is also no less severely homophobic than Sharia law...it's just that Christians have softened on enforcing it as much due to OUTSIDE SECULAR pressure over the last century.  Again, any credit for LGBT tolerance in these countries goes to non-Christians...NOT Christians!

     

    Yes, it's pretty simple.  Homophobia rises proportionally with Christian fundamentalism.  Duh Bible say you must kill gay guys (but not hot lesbians!), so the more you believe in duh Bible, duh more you wanna kill gays, capisce!

     

    And homophobia as a whole still encompasses a lot more than just capital punishment.  LGBT people can still suffer from a lot of bigotry, even if short of the death sentence, lol.  IOW, the death sentence is certainly A...but not the ONLY sole, reductionist metric for homophobia...

     

    If that were the case, then I would agree that Islamic Sharia law has Christianity beat, today.  But, if you consider the whole spectrum of homophobia and the far greater global populations affected by it - then Christianity still has Islam beat.

     

    And I have called out Abrahamic religions as a whole before...which were included in my diagnosis of the problem here as stemming from early Mesopotamia. 

    23 hours ago, gendao said:

    I am just going deeper to the actual TAPROOT and beating HEART OF THE HYDRA for them!  Which lies in early Mesopotamia...

    But this scope is actually even more accurate, because it includes not only the Abrahamic religions, but also all the other similar batsh*t-crazzzzy, holocaustic cults like those worshipping Baal, Moloch, etc, etc...

     

    However, I continue to single out Christianity because that was the largest, surviving head of the hydra that actually colonized the entire planet. 

     

    Anyhow, ultimately your Islamic whataboutism is still an apologetic Christian deflection.  The real baseline default to compare Christianity to is not its close kissing cousin, but all the NON-ABRAHAMIC/MESOPOTAMIAN/ANUNNAKI forms of spirituality around the world that it had forcibly and violently replaced.  Ones that revered the whole circle of life and had an ongoing, personal Q & A with the Great Mystery through direct experience...rather than a verrrrrryyyy sketchy narrative superimposed upon it.

     

    I mean, if ancient aliens are such a ridiculous conspiracy theory...then what do you think about a theory based upon an all-powerful, invisible being, angels, and demons by comparison?


  24. 5 hours ago, Nungali said:

    Gendao , I think most here agree with you about the bad aspects of Christianity and the bad historical record it has . Personally I see an insidious,  negative, suppressive, guilt-trip, programme running through its indoctrination.

     

    But anyone new or outside or removed from the dynamics of the ongoing argument between you and EG , after reading your above post would think we are all supporters of Christianity .  The thing is , THAT wasnt the original complaint protest or argument at all . YOU made it that , and that was part of the cause of frustration to EG . I dont know, that might have been your intent ?

     

    But as much as this Christian philosophy and religion  go directly against and in opposition to my own philosophy and religion , I dont see how you can push the above 'facts ' regarding suppressions of homosexuals and others in other countries .

     

    I mean, look at this :

     

     " Notably, as of 2019, 28 countries recognize same-sex marriage, they are: Argentina, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, Colombia, Denmark, Ecuador, Finland, France, Germany, Greenland, Iceland, Ireland, Luxembourg, Malta, Mexico, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, Taiwan, the United Kingdom, the United States and Uruguay.[1] "

     

    - now, I would say those countries have a lot of Christians and Christian influence  in them .

     

     

    " By contrast, 6 countries effectively impose the death penalty on consensual same-sex sexual acts, with three in Asia (Iran, Saudi Arabia and Yemen) and three in Africa (Nigeria (the northern states), Sudan and Somalia (Jubaland region)). "

     

    Are they predominantly Christian , or Moslem ?

     

    Religion in Iran. Sunni and Shi'i are the two largest branches of Islam, with the overwhelming majority of Iranians practicing Shi'i Islam. About 90 percent of Iranians practice Shi'ism, the official religion of Iran

     

    Nigeria, the most populous African country (with a population of over 200 million in 2018),[2] is nearly equally divided between Christianity and Islam, though the exact ratio is uncertain.

     

    Saudi Arabai - The official form of Islam is Sunni of the Hanbali school, in its Salafi version. According to official statistics, 75–85% of Saudi Arabian citizens are Sunni Muslims, 10–15% are Shia. (More than 30% of the population is made up of foreign workers who are predominantly but not entirely Muslim.)

     

    Yemen is an Islamic society. Nearly all Yemenis are Muslims, with approximately 56% belonging to the Shafi'i Sunni school of thought and approximately 44% belonging to the Zaydi Shia school of thought. There are also approximately 1,000 Christians and 50 Jews.

     

     Sudan, with 97% of the country's population adhering to Islam. The vast majority of Muslims in Sudan are Sunni belonging to the Maliki school of Islamic jurisprudence. Protestants are about 5% of the population mainly in the south. Roman Catholics are 3.2%.

     

    The major religion in Somalia is Islam. There is a small Christian community in Somalia mainly living amongst Somali Muslims in the Banaadir region.

     

    In addition, the death penalty is a possible punishment in 6 other countries: Afghanistan, Brunei, Mauritania, Pakistan, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates. Iraq has been removed from this list following the elimination of the Islamic State (ISIL/ISIS), it remains as a "de facto" criminalising country due to reports of State prosecution using laws on public indecency, prostitution or others. suppressive, guilt-trip, programme running through its indoctrination.

     

    Guess what the main religion is in these countries ?

     

    So yes, in answer to your question ;

     

    " FFS, You do realize that CHRISTIANITY is the primary cause for virulent racism, homophobia, transphobia, etc in the world today??? "

    Yes, it still is...because Christianity is still far more influential in population numbers and global spheres of influence.

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    And LGBT rights were all won only in those industrialized countries after long, protracted fights with Christians (not BECAUSE of them).

     

    But the fact that Islam comes in 2nd here in the Homophobia Olympics doesn't refute my point...it REINFORCES IT.  Because OF COURSE, it is another one of the Unholy Trinity of Abrahamic/Anunnaki cargo cults hailing from early Mesopotamia.  Of f'n course!  Gee, thanks Abe for destroying the planet!!!