Baguakid

Anyone know or study with this guy? http://whitecloudqigong.com/wu.php

What basic principles would identify a good bagua system taught right?

Which Bagua style do you suggest?

2000.00 Plus airfare, plus hotel, plus food, plus time off from work.. plus, plus, plus, plus.. sigh...

I'm seeing this offered in my area in a couple of weeks by Master Wong himself. Just wondering if anyone's taken this before and can comment. Thanks, BaguaKid

I have been trying for years to find this lady with no results. I know she's in the Buffalo area but no contact info. Anyone know her? Thanks in advance,

Anyone know this guy? http://www.wudangwenwu.com/ tks

How many, out of the billions of people on this planet, have achieved enlightenment? Who clearly knows and teaches a clear, concise path. I know of no one in my lifetime. Easy to speak of enlightenment, exceptionally difficult to grasp and obtain.

The real question(s) is/are, what practices promote longevity and then does Bagua contain those practices. Is opening channels enough to promote longevity or is more needed?

Agreed.. Yin and Yang balance.

I practice bagua and can say when done correctly.. key word here, "correctly".. it is very demanding. It is not like taiji in which most anyone can do it. It is very difficult and demanding. In our art it is said, within the internal arts, few practice bagua and within the art of bagua, few practice it correctly. Does it promote longevity. The jury's still out IMO....

I spent some time with Master Zhang and for me, sorry to say, I wasn't impressed. First off he offered a seminar but wouldn't say what was being taught. The one I did go to was Tiger Qigong seminar. I went to the Tiger Qigong seminar in Southern California and took a group healing seminar, same day. Felt nothing special from the exercises or the healing seminar. And, I was able to communicate with Master Zhang via Chinese. I also had nearly 20 years background in qigong and martial arts by that time. In addition, he sold a video tape which supported the seminar. I bought this tape to support what I learned at the seminar. Unfortunately there was all of 2 or 3 minutes of anything valuable on the video. The rest was video of his students. A waste of money in my opinion. Of course when I did see Master Zhang it was back in 2004 or so so maybe he hadn't developed fully by then.. I don't know.. As it stands not he is not someone I would seek out as an instructor. At least based on my previous exposure to him. My 2 cents.

Eternal_Student, I would be interested in your insights into qigong.

Dawei, 你是这个大卫吗？？ Is this you Dawei? tks...

Dainin, are you actually in Boca Raton? Do you study Bagua down there? tks

Well if you've never been impressed with a video on youtube, including BKF then I don't feel so bad and it gives me hope. Anyway, no worries Jess.. Unfortunately I'm not in an area that has an abundant plethora of internal arts. Where are you located?

With all due respect Jess, people can train their entire lives and still be mediocre at best. At the same time, some can train several years and reach high levels. It depends on the individual. I've never met BKF but from what I've seen of him on youtube, publications, etc, he doesn't "flip my fiddle" so to speak like others who seem to fall all over him. Just my point of view.... and like Aholes, everyone's got one. Take it for what it's worth. Peace!

You probably by now think I'm nuts Gerard so let me add to that perception. I am not a fan of BKF at all and don't believe at all, based on what I've seen on the net, that he has a deep understanding of internal arts.

I'm sorry Gerard, just not a fan. Don't have a lot of time to reply as my work is busy right now but the flrst link I was doing that in the early 80s in kungfu.. so don't get your point. Second link... not a fan... Steve, here's someone from our lineage. Zhang Dugan. He I understand was quite sick when performing this so take that into consideration. It's hard to get across on the web our exchanges guys.. . so for what it's worth, I'm open but still haven't seen too much which flips my fiddle... peace.. !!

Hey Steve... Just for the record... our style doesn't use "that" type of posture while stepping... While I do like the first pic you posted... FROM WHAT i'VE SEEN ON THE WEB/YOUTUBE I have not seen anyone I like perform a back seated posture as well as the gentleman in the first pic. I would like to see a video of him. Personally... I again state, I do not like it. If I can find someone who executes that posture to my liking I would change my tune.. until then.. not so. And, we also have "mud stepping" .. just not with the back seated posture. Anyway, that's my view.... from where I sit... Best.

I looked at the video. The teacher, from the video, looks impressive. What I'd rather see is two or three of his students who could do what he could do. Grady, you mentioned you've been with your teacher for 5 years (IIRC), can you do what he can do as in these videos? If not then I'd question why not.

The problem with this 10 day seminar is what you get from it in the end and for the 4k. Typically, in my past, Chinese teachers will start with seminar A for the price of X with the student believing he/she will have completed what they need to perform what they think they should. In reality, in the teacher's mind, seminar A is just the beginning and there are many more seminars (B through Z with hefty prices for each for example) before the student will really obtain the goods they are looking for by attending such a seminar. I've learned two versions of Da Mo's Yijinjing and I can tell you neither one is worth any more than 100.00 USD and that's a huge stretch. I find it difficult to believe that within the span of 10 days, with jet lag, cultural issues, etc that a student, with little or no background in qigong, is going to obtain anything more that a very expensive vacation. On the other side of that coin, I have known people who have paid 5k for two exercise sets. But, the individual learning had an extensive background in Qigong and Martial Arts and an education in TCM. These sets were very advanced and worth the money but being advanced as they are,they would be worthless of more than a conversational piece (or an avenue to do themselves serious harm) unless they practiced for a least 10 years to bring them up to the point they could handle such exercises. For myself, I would pay the 4k but I would need quite a bit more information before paying and I certianly wouldn't spend that amount on a 10 day seminar with all the dumb azz distractions that usually surrounds a western style seminar.

As I understand there are significant differences between the VHS versions and the DVD. I have the VHS and have not followed them for that reason. Waiting until I can afford the DVDs before I begin.

Thank you for that correction. Condolences to you on your father's passing. Best regards,

Hi all! I've been following this thread since Fu_Dog started it and since it's now come along nicely with a lot of experiences, let me ask a couple questions regarding this practice. 1. I've learned "about" from other sources that there are 5 layers of depth in qigong practice in regards to the body. Those layers being skin, muscle, blood, bone, and marrow in that order. The theory goes that over time the qi will sink or enter each of those layers with a healing effect on each one. My question, how does FPCK address those layers or is this a consideration in this practice? 2. Along the same line of thought, Has anyone at any time during the practice felt cleansing reactions due to this practice? Increased bowel movements, etc? Thank you, Bill