J.Finder

To me, the “perfect” feels like something potential - already present, but hidden and waiting to be recognized. That’s why I resonate with the Buddhist idea of Buddha-nature: every being has it, yet it needs to be recognized through walking the path and doing inner work. I’m not great with precise terminology .... I’m speaking from personal observations ..as for the outer world - saṃsara, suffering, yes. From that angle, it’s hard to talk about perfection. But the image of the lotus comes to mind. Wandering in saṃsara itself is suffering, yet truly accepting this seems to awaken a deeper aspiration - not only to ease one’s own suffering, but that of others as well.... just my humble view.... and karma, too.... When I first began studying it more deeply, I realized it’s not an excuse for passivity, but simply an understanding that what we experience arises from causes and conditions. In the same way, working on ourselves creates the causes and conditions for recognizing and living that very “perfect” we’re talking about. In general, I think practice is what ultimately matters, to reach the awareness of the things mentioned by the masters.

I think so, yes..... тo be honest, it’s a bit difficult for me to clearly identify it - perhaps I didn’t know to ask the right questions at the right time, but across a number of experiences, there was something very similar. I wouldn’t say that I formally belong to a Buddhist tradition, rather, for me, a Teacher is someone who opens the Path. I really love the phrase “magic is the art of authentic living” — it feels very precise. And it seems to me that everyone has their own magic, their own way, and their own set of tools)) Thank you so much! Synchronicity… I finally found the time to stop by - and right here was the answer for my inner question waiting for me! This resonates deeply. It’s in ordinary, simple actions that this begins to reveal itself most clearly — without strain and without separating practice from life. Thank you for the reminder and for such a precise, practical suggestion

I completely agree — that’s exactly how it feels. Fully experiencing whatever arises, with as much mindfulness as possible, naturally opens the next “field of practice.” And regarding emptiness, that is true as well. I notice some progress in my practice, though I feel I still have a long way to go. Yes, I have received some pointing-out instructions from my teacher in personal practice. I think the term “deity yoga” describes it best. And you’re absolutely right about Inner Goetia. First I became familiar with its approach, and it helped me more precisely identify “breakdowns of consciousness” (the Demon) and then, using the guidance, find their “harmonious state” (the Genius) in order to transform them. It’s not a fast process, of course, but for me it turned out to be very effective as a method of self-purification. I also see it as simply “another point of view.” Regarding the Five Poisons — for me they are more like general principles. If Goetia is about purification, then Buddhist practice is more about attuning to the “perfect principle,” the “enlightened pattern”, "The Buddha nature". But I wouldn’t say I am deeply knowledgeable in traditional systems — most of this comes from personal experience.... Wow... very interesting video... Thanks! Thank you for sharing such a detailed and profound account of your experience! Unfortunately, I haven’t had the chance to attend teachings by the Dalai Lama (or other teachers) in person — only via online streams. I hope that one day I’ll be able to experience it directly. And yes, you expressed it very precisely — I don’t think I can add anything to that. Some time ago I felt a bit conflicted: on one hand, the “Buddhist view” of the world and inner processes has always felt natural and deeply familiar to me. On the other hand, the spirit of the Western Path and the Western esoteric tradition also resonates strongly. Over time, a personal system of “tools” for moving forward has formed for me — and continues to evolve. Experiences of emptiness, reminders of impermanence, interdependent arising, and other key Buddhist insights gradually reveal themselves more deeply through time and practice…

Thank you very much! I managed to get familiar with some of the materials. Wow, there are surprisingly many of them! I think it would be more appropriate to continue with questions in separate threads. I’ve just found some free time to return to the forum.

If you have 100% dedication and confidence in the teachings, then every living situation can become part of your practice. You can live your practice, not just do it. (с) Karmapa XVI Rangjung Rigpe Dorje No matter how many wise words you read or speak, what good are they if you don't put them into practice?! (с) Buddha The classical definition states: "Magic is the science and art of aligning reality with the will of the practitioner," and we have neither the right nor the reason to dispute it. However, we should ask ourselves: If we were to journey toward our own fundamental principles, toward the origins of our Will, what would we discover there? And there, we would perceive an aspiration for happiness, a drive for growth, a longing for freedom and awareness. These are the foundational attributes of our consciousness. Therefore, it can be stated that Magic is the Way of evolution and liberation of consciousness, a journey to diminish its conditioning, to transcend limitations, and to break free from dissatisfaction. Our will is not petty whims or caprices, nor the impulses of a wounded child. Our will is the creative bedrock of the Universe, thus Magic is the Way of Freedom and the Road of Creation. (с) Enmerkar

I suggest creating a separate thread on the forum dedicated to discussing practical methods and approaches to self-work and to counteracting destructive tendencies of the mind, and continuing the conversation there. How do you feel about that?

Yes, I agree 🙂 This is exactly the author and practitioner whose quotation I mentioned earlier.

Would you be willing to share links to your posts? I’d be very interested to read them

Thank you very much for your response — this is truly fascinating... I’m not familiar with IFT and am encountering it for the first time, so thank you for the link — I’m currently in the process of reading about it. I feel I’ll need some time to explore this approach more deeply and go beyond what is outlined in the article. At first glance, it looks very interesting, especially the three roles described in the model. I’m deeply interested in self-work and in methods for overcoming inner dead ends and destructive tendencies of the mind, especially when these in some way resonate with the Inner Goetia framework. For me, it serves as a kind of inner map that helps me orient myself more quickly in challenging states (if I manage to remember in time) and find the right “remedy” when I notice destabilisation.

Nice to meet you! For me personally, this is an impressive experience — thank you for sharing! Regarding practice, I feel very close to what Dzongsar Jamyang Khyentse Rinpoche and Yongey Mingyur Rinpoche describe in their books. I have also drawn many insights and much “food for inner work” and inspiration from the writings of the Dalai Lama, Lama Sopa (Khenpo Jampa Sopa), and Chögyam Trungpa Rinpoche. In meditation (śamatha and vipassanā) and in everyday life I resonate with the approach of transforming obscuring emotions and bringing them onto the Path — here following the instructions of Padmasambhava. What Buddhism calls the “five poisons of the mind” I try to track and work with using the corresponding five wisdoms. I was deeply impressed by trips to India and Nepal — the sense of harmony, clarity and openness experienced in the Buddhist monasteries of Dharamsala left a strong impression. For me, the Inner Goetia approach as a system for overcoming “dead ends of consciousness” resonates in some ways with tantric Buddhist practice: identify / recognize a destructive manifestation and oppose it with a remedy. I’m currently rereading The New Lemegeton: goetic psychoanalysis (author Enmerkar), and when I find such dead ends in myself I try to work through them in daily life (and in meditation). By observation, this approach makes me freer and more harmonious, and external circumstances tend to arrange themselves more harmoniously as well. Could you tell a bit more about your experience? Have you personally met any contemporary teachers of the Nyingma/Dzogchen tradition, or perhaps attended any teachings? “Success in the attainment of the Knowledge and Conversation of the Holy Guardian Angel” sounds very impressive — did that achievement open new horizons on the Path and make you stronger and freer?

Hi! nice to meet you

And what about you? How do you understand Inner Goetia, or are there any similar approaches that resonate with you?

Nice to meet you! I’m not deeply familiar with the traditional, evocation-based approaches to Goetia.... and to be honest, I wouldn’t dare to practice them without proper experience and a qualified mentor. Regarding inner Goetia, so as not to distort the idea, I’ll quote the author from whom I first encountered this term: “Inner Goetia — a system of mind-therapy based on traditional views of constructive and destructive matrices that govern both personal and transpersonal levels of the mind.” For me personally, it’s a set of methods and approaches for observing destructive tendencies of the mind, recognizing how they manifest internally, and noticing the blind spots that create inner disharmony or block effective action. Practically speaking, whenever I encounter an inner dead-end — fear, uncertainty, doubt, or anything that destabilizes me and drains energy — I review my inner perspectives and beliefs to understand where the “hooks” of that destructive state are and what can be done to counterbalance it.

Hello everyone! A close friend suggested I join this community, saying that the conversations here have a rare depth and sincerity. I’ve been reading a bit already, and I can feel the calm, reflective atmosphere — it’s refreshing. I’m practitioner with interests in Tibetan Buddhism, inner Goetia as a path of psychological and spiritual refinement, and elements of the Northern tradition. My practice leans toward inner work, symbols, and direct experience. I am currently searching for interesting materials and books to study that may be similar in spirit) Happy to be here, and I look forward to learning from you and contributing where it feels meaningful.