Does anyone know if these long distance healings can improve one’s mental and emotional health? 

On 5/18/2016 at 3:02 AM, zen-bear said:

 

Also, if one does not do TTP to its most advanced levels--meaning learning the last two advanced yogas called "the 9 Flowers" and the "5 Dragons", one does not get to treble one's energy level (at a minimum) and does not develop one's shen, or psychic awareness, to the extent that one can literally see automatically all life forms as energy and all humans in their karmic totality-- in the same mode that Castaneda describes in his books chronicling his apprenticeship in what he called Yaqui Indian sorcery.

 

FP Qigong and the other Bok Fu Pai Meditaiton systems fully develop shen to this same degree, but they do not do it in what I would describe as such a "compact, speedy and efficient" manner as the TTP system does it. TTP does it entirely through the its two most advanced Yogas. The transformative effects of this higher training on consciousness and bodily energy is profound and almost surreal--in terms of a beginner's frame of reference. These particular energy effects are the transformative hallmarks of Tao Tan Pai Nei Kung.

 

Q#4: I know in past conversations we've had offline you said they are "different energies" but can you elaborate on that as well?

The energy cultivated by FP Qigong is purely a healing energy that cannot be transformed into a martial energy. The FP Healing Energy has a distinct tangible feel, specific salient physiological benefits, and after a certain amount of correct practice, creates an aura around and within the body of a specific color. As I've discussed over the years on this thread, this healing energy, once it is cultivated to super-abundance, has the incredibly unique and splendid quality of spontaneously "jumping off" of the practitioner and infusing into anyone in proximity who has disease or injury and for which one has positive regard. No yogic energy that I have ever encountered on earth has this ability to automatically transfer itself.

 

Tao Tan Pai Energy, per my experience and my observation of it others, does not have a specific color that is universally visible to every practitioner. The exception is that after practicing the most advanced yoga in that system, any person with good shen (and not necessarily a TTP practitioner) can see the effects of its cultivation as a mythic Chinese animal of residing at a particular locus in the body.

 

The healing methods using FP energy and those of TTP are very different because the 2 energies are so very different. As I shared in the thread, GM Doo Wai who was a friend, peer and contemporary of GM Share K. Lew, and contrasted the differences in their healing methods in a nutshell by saying: "We don't manipulate energy; we just pass our hand over." There is much, much more to the differences, but that's one sufficient elegant summation. And it absolutely does not mean that one's healing method is better than the other. It just means that the energies are different. It is the testimonial of GM Doo Wai as to the spontaneous and automatic nature of the FP Healing Energy.

 

Q#1: Can you help me understand how FP and Tao Ahn Pai work together?

To answer your first question, I will start by putting it this way:

• Tao Tan Pai Kung Fu inclusive of its Nei Kung stands by itself, as does FP Qigong and its encompassing Bok Fu Pai system.

• FP Qigong adds another level of healing power to the TTP practitioner.

• Practicing the TTP system at any level accelerates and enhances the cultivation process of FP Qigong and grounds it tremendously.

 

 

 

Q#2: Do they complement each other and if so how?

My final elaboration of how Tao Tan Pai greatly enhances Flying Phoenix Qigong's cultivation is in two parts:

 

A) Yes. As posted on this forum a couple of times, when I showed GM Doo Wai just a glimpse of the advanced TTP Nei Kung and asked him if I could continuing doing them why I was learning his system (FP), he said, knowing that I had done about 16 years of TTP training up to that point, he answered, "Yes, you can mix the two energies." So that is the answer to your question from the oldest living source of FP Qigong.

 

 

"> The questions would be:

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> 1. Would the Qigong System "Tao Tan Pai (also known as Taoist Elixir Method)" suit me in terms of spiritual and bodily progress?

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> 2. In what way would the above system complement my current practice of "Flying Phoenix Heavenly Healing Chi Meditations"?

 

1. Excellent benefits from Tao Tan Pei. Development of intuition abilities and right brain function. More subtle and refined perception. And very important cleansing and expansion of heart chakra.

 

2. It combines well with Flying Phoenix by enhancing everything that is being developed by that system It will strengthen and increase all the benefits of Flying Phoenix. This combination is highly recommended."

 

 

 

 

Sifu Terry Dunn

 

 

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Hi Sifu Terry,

 I increased the font size and bolded the parts that I was particularly interested in. This post was from 2016. I am interested in developing more subtle perception and increasing my intuitive abilities through qigong practice. Do you still believe that I would need to learn advanced levels of TTP to get there--or would I be able to start developing this with some of the Flying Phoenix meditations? I am currently working on DVD 1 and DVD 2 at the moment. Do your zoom classes teach TTP moves that would help develop this psychic awareness? Ty 

On 5/22/2023 at 3:21 AM, Miffymog said:

 

 

TLDR; it's best if things like this are done on a daily basis, but you can start off with literally doing just 5 minutes a day, just to create a the habit. This duration will then naturally increase in time.

 

 

Whenever I had practices in the past, be it standing or sitting mediation, I always used to tell myself that the amount of time I end up doing it was always fairly equal to how much less sleep I’d need during the day. Therefore, it actually took no time out of my day to do it, I merely needed to get up a little earlier to do it.

 

The reason I’d need less sleep was because I’d gain a little more energy from doing the meditation, the day would be a little less stressful due to it, so I’d expend less emotional energy, and my sleep was probably of a slightly higher quality. So it was kind of a win-win situation (the fact is, this is probably true for any daily exercise routine, not just meditation and qi gong).

 

For me, the most challenging bit was getting up early to do it, because if I left it to the evening, there were always other things that might come up and I’d miss a session.

 

 

FPCK is a little bit different, in that because the mediations can be quite relaxing and aren’t always too strenuous (especially when it comes to the seated mediations on DVD 2), my sessions can end up taking up quite a bit of time, and I definitely don’t get all that time back in less sleep needed.

 

However, the way I have reduced the longer sessions is by only doing one mediation a session. Currently, I do some warm up exercises, sit or stand for 10 minutes before I start, perform the mediation for 20 to 30 minutes and then done, so it's relatively compact.

 

Good luck with your new job and finding a routine that works for you

 

Thanks for bringing up the point that the time I do this is equal to how much less sleep you need during the day. I've seen that talked about on this forum more than once. I agree that if I were to leave it to the evening it would be more difficult for me too. Thanks for giving an example of your morning routine--20 to 30 minutes with a warmup sounds pretty doable but as you stated starting small and working my way up is probably the best strategy. Ty for sharing what works for you!! Having a less stressful day is def a perk I'm hoping to gain. 

On 5/23/2023 at 5:47 AM, Pak_Satrio said:

Like Miffymog said, morning sessions are best. Sleep a bit earlier and get up a bit earlier so you can do it before having breakfast and going to work. I work 12 hour shifts and manage to get a 1 1/2 hour to 2 hour session before work so it should be a piece of cake for you! The energy and health boost will be worth it.

Thanks for your response. I'm really impressed that you get 1.5 to 2 hours in before work. It must have enough impact for you to be willing to do this. Definitely motivating, ty 

I have a question about Flying Phoenix qi energy and potentially cultivating more energy to do things during the week. I've just started the first DVD of the series and have been enjoying it so far (it's the only system I've practiced).

I have been working part time/per diem for awhile and will be going back to full time work in a couple weeks. I am grateful to have found a full time job in my field however I'm nervous about  losing work life balance and neglecting my hobbies, self development, and interests outside of work. Usually when I'm full time--I'm rushing to get out the door in the morning and then I'm pretty drained by the time I get home and have enough energy to make a sandwich, relax for a little bit, and then pass out. Everything I want to do mostly gets moved to the weekends including chores and errands.

I was curious that with the qi built through this program that people are finding more energy to do things during the week rather than leaving everything to the measly 2 day weekend. Anecdotes appreciated!! Thank you 

On 1/23/2023 at 1:48 AM, Pak_Satrio said:

@gekko

 

I would recommend you try Flying Phoenix, you can check the website here for the supposed benefits:

 

http://www.taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html

 

The benefits I have seen so far (in a year of practice) is:

- better eyesight

- less body pain/aches (this is very important for me because I work 12 hour shifts and stand all day at work)

- no cold/flu since starting practice

- better sleep, usually wake up a few mins before my alarm 

- less stress, less anger. I’m not immune to stress or anger but they only affect me for less than a minute then my mood is back to normal

- once during practice I felt extreme bliss take over my body 

 

What I have been taught as well is to always end your qigong sessions with at least 10 minutes of seated stillness
 

 

This is a very important point. You need to master breathing in your lower abdomen. 

Have you seen any spiritual shifts or benefits as well? My physical health *knock on wood and v grateful* is pretty good--I am more interested in mental, emotional, and spiritual effects? Thank you 

Thank you! I barely hear from people who know about this system so good to know your experience 

Hi Sifu Terry,

 Thanks so much for your detailed and encouraging response! I know I will go back and reread it a couple times to absorb all the info. I am just starting out on my Qigong journey and was looking at your site with the DVD set. Should I practice and get acquainted with the DVD's before I start out with zoom classes or can I start the beginner zoom classes with no prior experience? I admit I'm interested in both the Tao Tan Pai and FP Qigong combination. Also I am in the Los Angeles area--do you ever do  person classes there or are you mostly on zoom for now?

When you say Advanced Flying Phoenix--do you mean the DVD's that have advanced exercises? I think one advanced DVD is also still in process of coming out based on what I saw on the site. 

Also a little random question but if one wants to do psychedelics like ayahuasca how much break should one take before doing qigong? For example let's say I have been doing qigong for awhile but I want to do an aya ceremony--should I take a break before and after and how long should I do that for? I ask because I've heard that psychedelics can mess with energy a little bit and I want to avoid potential qi deviations. 

Similar question for breathwork--if I do a daily 10-15 minute breathwork practice should I leave a few hours between that and qigong practice?

Thank you! And also Happy New Year~!

Lauren 

Hi tao thanks for your response. I can see how it would be a more individual experience than anything. I’m curious—since you’ve tried so many other qigong methods, do you know if flying Phoenix helps increase one’s level of consciousness, intuition so one can make better choices in life, etc? That’s part of why I want to start a qigong practice—the emotional and spiritual benefits. If one wants to experience those side benefits should they take a workshop with terry or do a combination of exercises during practice? Thank you 

Curious if anyone finds that this practice influences your career or day job or your work with people in anyway? I'm going into the counseling field (just graduated school) and I'm wondering if becoming more sensitive to energy might impact my work in anyway. Thanks 

https://renxueamericas.org/learning-center/

Hi everyone, Does anyone have experience with this website and the courses? His website layout is very clean and organized and courses seem straightforward. I want to learn qigong but also delve into some of the spiritual practices as well. I watched the documentary about his two students who increased their level of consciousness through the practices. Thoughts?

Thank you searcher that's a very thorough recommendation of what to look into. I have heard good
things about Spring Forest--and it sounds like it could align ith what I'm looking for. Haven't heard of
Bruce Frantzis so I'd have to look into that. Just curious if anyone has any knowledge of this coursework?
https://renxueamericas.org/learning-center/qigong-online-learning-courses/

Thank you guys. Appreciate the suggestions--will give these resources a look 

Hello everyone,

Hope your December is going smoothly. I've always thought about starting a Qigong practice but I'm currently more serious about actually getting started. Physically I could use more energy overall, but I'm looking to learn a practice which is more for the spiritual and emotional benefits. I'm learning about different instructors out there with online courses (Anthony, Lee Holden) but not sure who to pick based on my needs. I consistently meditate and do breathwork and my goal with Qigong is to get into a more effortless and peaceful state. I would ideally like to continue breathwork as I start a qigong practice.

I was reading someone's comment the other day about how he does some kind of advanced qigong that helps him (merge with the cosmos?) not sure if I'm repeating that correctly, and that his intuition is developed in a way where he makes better decisions. He says he feels blissed out through doing this daily practice. Which form of qigong or instructor with online courses should I look into for similar results? Ideally an instructor who is detailed about form teaches in a way that helps the student get the most out of this practice.

Thank you