S:C

The Dao Bums
 View Profile  See their activity

  • Content count

    413

  • Joined

  • Last visited

Posts posted by S:C

  1. Posted · Edited by stellarwindbubble
    is it a mess if there’s patterns?

    On 21.7.2023 at 10:03 PM, stellarwindbubble said:

    Not ready for this

    Mind‘s a rabbit on cocaine

    Who would do such bleep?

    Who would do such bleep?

    Still alive. Distant echo.

    What is this about?

     

     

  2. Posted · Edited by stellarwindbubble

    On 21.7.2023 at 10:03 PM, stellarwindbubble said:

    Remnants unwilling

    Why now are we here? Service?

    Not ready for this

    Not ready for this

    Mind‘s a rabbit on cocaine

    Who would do such bleep?

  5. Posted

    8 minutes ago, stellarwindbubble said:

    It will be stable.

    Where run when hearts joys are gone

    Snake porn sees through lies

    Snake porn sees through lies 

    Looked to deep, no love has come

    Gas station empty

  6. Posted · Edited by stellarwindbubble
    Cobie edited too.

    25 minutes ago, Cobie said:

    another the next.

    Come to your senses. And it 

    will be stable then

    will be stable then.

    Where run when hearts joys are gone

    Snake porn sees through lies

  13. Posted · Edited by stellarwindbubble
    distinctions

    1 hour ago, old3bob said:

    non-dualism can not contain any separate illusions...

    strangely, some of us will at times, consciously or not, still reach over for the steering wheel from the passenger seat and switch/be switched between an ultimate and a conventional perspective and/or action, no? or just another illusion/dissociation?
     

    Quote

    one often reads of the need to control but this is never explained - how for instance you control your heart and so on - it’s an unfortunate word - or perhaps inadequate.

    curious… can the heart ever be controlled by willpower in a way that it is not affected by input? can control be implemented before input? @Apech , - does your subjective experience differ? are you talking about controlling actions or really heart/thought itself?
     

    hasn’t everything that reaches heart passed senses, minds synapses and nerves also? 

     

    conceptual thoughts/feels of wish or woe will pull through the fabric? or not? can awareness or attention training ever help with conventional reality? who really makes the choice to switch and/or control? 
     

  14. Posted

    1 hour ago, stirling said:

    Science and methodology are fine, but really only has application in the Relative understanding. Science is for modeling limited subsets of interactions in the Relative world, NOT for understanding the Absolute which includes the entire fabric of reality.

     

    Quote

    Scientific modelling is a scientific activity, the aim of which is to make a particular part or feature of the world easier to understand, define, quantify, visualize, or simulate by referencing it to existing and usually commonly accepted knowledge. It requires selecting and identifying relevant aspects of a situation in the real world and then developing a model to replicate a system with those features.

    This is something that intuitively I understand and understood this at this point. But only intuitively. It seems so counterintuitive still, that you cannot ‚cross borders’ with the intellect alone ever and not even for deductions.

     

    Why isn’t there a way for science to explain it? When will mountains again be just mountains?

    What again helps there? I seem to forget…

     

    Thanks @stirling, that aspect came just at the right timing for me! 

    • Thanks 1

  19. Posted · Edited by stellarwindbubble

    I’d recommend a book by Jack Kornfield for the matter at hand: After ecstasy the laundry. 

    Obviously build on a proverb, which exchanges ecstasy with enlightenment. There seems to be some confusion on the two concepts, nevertheless…

    He expands on the topic, draws from different sources with personal experience from people. The approach might be the other way round (to stay grounded after having had the floor swept under one’s  feet) but if I remember correctly the practice can also be used to get somewhere, if you don’t have an intention to get anywhere…

    It could help at least to prepare for accidents, I‘d suppose? Shouldn’t hurt to read it.

     

  23. Posted · Edited by schroedingerscat
    Deleted the humorous aspect because it could be viewed as controversial. The most effective aspect of freedom of speech is self censorship. For the future I hope to stay a silent observer. Stellar wind bubbles don’t talk. Neither do half-dead cats.

    “Are you on TikTok?” - “…” 

     

  25. Posted · Edited by schroedingerscat
    incomplete & add on

    14 hours ago, liminal_luke said:

    Lets just say it takes a special kind of person to read about the amazing Daoist wizards of old and say "nah, I'd rather go for dependent origination and impermanence."

    (bold by me)

    Maybe those kinds of persons who are afraid of or fleeing responsibility that might be more that those can handle? 


    Further development might come with obligations to handle the acquired well in deeds also. Not everyone might be adequatly equipped or feel so.

    14 hours ago, liminal_luke said:

    the promise of multiple orgasms, superhuman fighting skills, and immortality. 

    (bold by me)

     

    It does seem a bit extreme, no?

     

    But then again so does:

    14 hours ago, liminal_luke said:

    dependent origination and impermanence.

    (bold by me)

     

    Not exactly 'middle way', - is it?

     

    Afaik the Buddhists don't have a deontological ethic, but a consequentialist one, is that true? Might that be one of the core differences in how they handle 'things' compared to Daoists?

     

    8 hours ago, old3bob said:

    Steve hits the nail on the head with, "...What has happened is that emotional reactivity is seen in context, with less personal identification,

    Less engagement, and thus less action with consequences (sound of unstruck silence wise ideally?) - while diverting emotional reactivity away to - - dissolution, impermanence and dependent origination, - but no avoidance mode?

     

    3 hours ago, Apech said:

    Beyond this there is another question as to whether what we experience as happening is really happening, or are we just seeing it wrong.  But that's really another stage.

    What do you mean by 'wrong' here? - -

    does this question help when dealing with conventional 'truths'? Doesn't the average human need an ideal to strive for in conventional life - other than 'emptiness of ultimate truth' or 'originating light ground of possibilities' , which for most is dangerous as it is before conceptualization (... before thoughts, before emotions happens but recurringly) without clear defined boundaries and gives those seeking no direction?

     

    On 11.9.2020 at 12:42 PM, Apech said:

    When faced with this there are probably three stages of response.  Firstly trying to stop or control the emotion.  Then wanting to transform them into something better.  Then lastly waking up to precisely what is going on and why.  The first two are ok and natural but not really much use.  It's the last one where emotions become the path.

     

    This does not mean that your individual feelings are particularly important.  They are just patterns of movement of energy.  So for instance, you might feel particularly angry about something and want to express it.  But that is missing the point.  If you are just indulging in the strength of yur feelings you aren't learning anything - even if there might be some temporary feeling of liberation.

     

    It is in the emotional field where this 'pushing away' is occurring which is blocking your ability to see your true nature, duality is being generated through it.  One reason for cultivation is to create a unified and coherent being - one pointed focus - which can form the basis.  On different levels and different ways conflicting emotional states are being generated - for instance by holding together essentially contradictory ideas about ourselves and the nature of reality.

     

    Unfortunately for most of us we have a huge baggage of emotional content and experiences to work through.  It can seem overfacing.  But nevertheless this is the work.

    (bold by me)

     

    does this mean that in a way - this emotional equilibrium is this ideal for you (you mention Mahamudra in your opening post, I fail to make the connection to emotions here still… ), the ideal you strive for; - and does that count even in ethical questions? how would you deal with those (- on regards to emotion, - wouldn't that be a view of extreme subjectivity... am I confused! )?

     

    On 11.9.2020 at 8:10 PM, steve said:

    The single most powerful and practical energetic movement in our experience to work and play with is emotional.

    (italic by me)

     

    Intriguing thought. :blink:

    There again, the old daoists seem to have an intersting sliding scale for the phenomenon of emotions and their changes in time (sadness to wisdom, fear to excitement etc. etc. - might be interesting to try that out, no? might that be a path in itself, not fully probably...? oh I’ve come to so not like my guessing games here…).