Cleansox

That would be australian football? 

Isn't that hard on the head? 

7 hours ago, Nungali said:

 

None of them really 'died out'  .  Most of us   ( HSS ) are a mongrel hybrid mix  of the above and several other hominins 

 

One trait of the male homo sapiens is the willingness to have sex with about anything... 

25 minutes ago, Master Logray said:

Different Chinese medicine doctors could have vastly different views on the same patient, apply opposing remedies. 

And when faced with a situation where a lab test doesn’t provide an answer, allopathic medicine mirrors this. 

2 hours ago, steve said:

I have a bit more optimism about integration.

 

I am encouraged by so many university programs opening their minds and curricula to alternatives to a formerly sole and rigid allopathic focus. /... ... /

I see more and more people asking about alternatives to pharmacology and surgery. 

 

I'm less optimistic about integrative medicine. 

I base that on having seen one integrative projekt follow another, both on a local and on a national level, for the last 25 years. 

It sounds like a good idea, but in my neck of the woods it is actually hard to get qualified therapists/teachers in a non-allopathic medical tradition to step in and work together with the system. 

Instead, it tends to be amateur night with whatever practice that is the flavour of the month. 

There are alternatives to pharmacology within the allopathic medical system, practitioners who can do spot-on treatments which affect both root and branch of a problem. 

The problem is that, again in my neck of the woods, the system rather pays one physician to prescribe pharma than 2-3 people (that would be the same cost for the system) who use behavioural medicine to change eating habits, basic exercise habits, and how to work with autonomic and emotional regulation. 

Yes, mental health issues are on the rise, and that correllates with lower quality of life, more somatic diseasey, and shorter life expectancy. 

2 hours ago, Jaba said:

Yes, recently I was reading recent research that impacting emotions from childhood, including negative ones like fear, being ignored, etc Remain in the bodily 'structure' and especially the gut flora into adulthood. 

And create vulnerability for disease as adults. 

2 hours ago, Toni said:

Many people care about their diet, at least in Europe, bc they know its importance for health. Very few care about emotions bc they don't understand its effects

At a population level, we are fatter than ever. Despite everyone knows that it is harmful. ☹️

13 minutes ago, Toni said:

Yes, it is true, but it is still something quite minority, that don't go to the general public

Do you think people want to know? 

There are so many things about stress and diet that are general knowledge, but knowing and changeing ones habits are not the same. 

2 hours ago, Toni said:

I read somewhere else that according to TCM negative emotions are generally the reason why the body gets sick. 

Negative emotions correllate to physiological states where regenerative functions are downplayed because the mind prioritizes preparance for another kind of action. 

The result is, among other things, dysregulation in autonomic functions and malfunction in the immune system. 

1 hour ago, Toni said:

I think it is a very important question that science should address, 

Science is adressing that question, from various angles. 

14 hours ago, steve said:

That’s an interesting observation.

The majority of Chinese  nationals and Chinese Americans I come into contact with have far more confidence in allopathic medicine than TCM and qigong. 

I think it is, at least partly, a psychological defence mechanism. When someone immerses him/herself in a tradition coming from another culture, it is very to facilitate that by dissociating oneself from the cultural context one has left. 

That would sort of explain why Bruce Frantzis once stated on a seminar that "allopathic medicine studies anatomy while TCM studies the living body", as if physiology isn't a major subject in allopathic medicine. 

Damo Mitchell basically does the same mistake in Heavenly Streams, stating that allopathic medicine "understands living creatures as being comprised of numerous systems such as the respiratory system, the nervous system and so on. The Daoist view of the body differs in that it considers there only to be one system; this is the system of the body." 

In reality, both systems have in them to see Branches and Roots, and it depends on the skill and knowledge of the practitioner which level the treatment is based on. 

On 2021-05-12 at 5:28 AM, daojones said:

@CleansoxOf course the body has its secrets...

I'm going to rant a bit, so it's probably a good post to ignore 😁

One of the causes of chronic low-grade inflammation is a dysregulated autonomic nervous system. One of the major causes of a dysregulated ANS is tough life experiences, from attachment-related childhood issues all the way up to life threatening trauma. 

This form a background for medically unexplained symptoms, which for the sake of argument might include medically explained symptoms that doesn't respond to treatment. 

Treatment? 

Well, some of it is mentioned above: 

 Cut carbs, replace with veggies, and take probiotics until they actually take hold in the intestines. 

Parallell with that, a serious amount of traditional energetic work on multiple levels does have an anti-inflammatory effect while at the same time rebuilding the function of the Default Mode, Salience, and Central Executive Networks. 

3 hours ago, Toni said:

The majority of qi gong teacher I know are also anti-mask and anti-vaccines

Add anti-western medicine, and that would sum up the ones I know. 

@daojones

No formal diagnosis, worsened by infections, and medicines that (probably) have an anti-inflammatory effect alleviates some of the problems. 

Question: Do you by any chance have a long list of symptoms, most of which are unexplained? 

Sleep issues? 

1 hour ago, escott said:

I'm looking for a system that directs energy through visualization that contains movement that strengthens the joints and muscles on a deep internal level and also has breath work. It doesn't all have to happen at the same time, just be a system that logically fits together, isn't a mish-mash, and doesn't contain so many different practices as to be impossible for a householder to get done.

Doing the five elements of Xing Yi would tick of quite a few boxes on the above list. 

1 hour ago, helpfuldemon said:

Why do people seem so desperate to eliminate the ego? 

Because it is the accumulaton of a lifetime of emotional reactions? 

1 hour ago, helpfuldemon said:

Its your identity. 

Well, if someone is content, there is no need for a change. 

1 hour ago, helpfuldemon said:

What would you be without it? 

Free? 

1 hour ago, helpfuldemon said:

  Are you so anxious to eliminate who you are? 

Not anxious about that at all, really 😁

1 hour ago, helpfuldemon said:

What makes you so terrible that you should desire to do that?  

Not curious about what Liberation could be? Or how it would be to awaken to reality? 

6 hours ago, Taomeow said:

Turns out that after all these years, I still don't know the whole story of the 4th of July and what exactly this holiday is about.  Someone ought to explain to me this 1907 postcard issued in celebration:

 

 

 

Tormenting cats is good fun and something good boys do? Presumably because it prepares them to become soldiers so they can be good tools for the state when a smaller country needs som good whopping. 

On 2021-03-25 at 3:12 AM, Creation said:

I have a bit of experience with both.  The aspects of the energy system being accessed and the methods of access are different, even though there are also similarities. 

 

Tibetan Yoga is designed to work with the central channel and the red and white bindu within the chakras along the central channel,

I feel that there are greater differences in the beginning, but after one has started with the reversal of water, created ling sui, and progressed with the dragon and tiger phase, one would see more of the similarities between the practices. 

9 hours ago, natural said:

 

Well lubricated bearings and a true compass of course.

A path lubricated? 

In a thread where O at a D is mentioned? 

Few people would bump a thread like this... 😁 

You are, me on the other hand is giving premium advice based on your expressed need. 

Cool, isn't it? 😎

12 hours ago, Indiken said:

 

are there any other methods? 

Yes 

Pilocybin, peyote, datura,... .... 

Audentes Fortuna luvat? 

"Luck is for the unprepared"

Karen Lynch 

55 minutes ago, Indiken said:

 

I am looking to lengthen my lifespan

Blue zone diet and lifestyle, some basic qigong. 

55 minutes ago, Indiken said:

to learn the needed lessions in this lifetime.

1) Life is suffering. 

2) To relieve suffering, you might want to pursue the buddhist path. 

3) There are more Buddhist Sutras and Tantras than any normal person can read and have use for in one lifetime.

So you might choose to bail out, and pursue something more clear. 

Netflix, anyone?