ReturnDragon

I am sorry, your wording in the OP lost me!

OK, then what is the real question of the OP?

Yes,  daojiaotu(道教徒)  is a general term for all disciples related to Taoism at all times. Period.

徒(tu) means disciple.

6 hours ago, SirPalomides said:

Please note: This is a thread about formal lay affiliation in Daoism and not about broad questions of "who is a Daoist" or who should call themselves "Daoist".

 

In the "Daoist associations" thread @Walker mentioned the jushi or daojiaotu designation for lay disciples formally affiliated with Daoist temples or lineages but who have not been ordained as daoshi. Is there any kind of initiation for such people?

 

I know that daojiaotu is a neologism but the phenomenon is certainly not new. Indeed some important Daoist movements historically involved laypeople as founders, teachers, or patrons. Sometimes I read of these people being "initiates" though it's not clear what exactly this means.

 

 

It seems this understand is little obfuscate. The term daojiaotu(道教徒) is not a neologism. It is inclusive for any person who practices or follows the principles of Tao(Daoism).  A daoshi(道士) is a also a daojiaotu which is more devoted to the Daoism belief. All other none-Daoist(lay Daoist) who follows or practices the principles of Daoism are also considered to be a daojiaotu.

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No one misses the notorious @ChiDragon

If one wants to know what is the purpose of Qi Gong,  should one narrow down what is the definition of Qi Gong first? FYI Tai Chi is a very good from of Qi Gong.

Someone had mentioned "Qi Gong body." It is equivalent to a "Tai Chi body," as my own definition, for a Tai Chi practitioner. Someone had  a good laugh at that when the first time was heard.

FYI The 6 minutes video demo was to show the result from the practice of Tai Chi or Qigong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBAHRqOtJDQ

The continuation of the movements for a long duration of time shows the endurance of the physical strength with no fatigue . The none hesitation of the moments shows the mind is fully in control.

As one can see that the body was from the result of xing and ming cultivation,  the body was in complete control of the mind. This is, only, a way of showing the result from the xing and ming cultivation. Of course, there are other ways to show it as well.

17 minutes ago, dwai said:

 

Xing and Ming cultivation is to cultivate the mind(性) and body(命). It was practiced by the ancient Chinese Taoist. It is what I am practicing now and tried to be a semi Taoist.

 Yes, don't think about anything. You just do the abdominal  breathing like when you were laboring but very slowly. In other words, you just concentrate on your breathing with your nose not your mouth. Indeed, your body will do the rest.

Hi Mspitzer65,
I was curious about the tingling feeling on my fingers when I do Tai Chi. In general, you will not get a good answer from any practitioners. Since this is a physical thing in the human body. Therefore, I did a research by reading books on physiology to understand the human body.

What I had found out is that when we do exercise the blood circulate faster than normal. Hence, the pressure is higher when the blood reach the capillaries. The reaction of the capillaries is contract to neutralize the blood pressure, otherwise the capillaries will explode. The tingling feeling was from the contraction of the capillaries. It is completely normal inside the human body. I am happy with this explanation. There is nothing to worry about.

Good luck! Happy Qi Gong practice!

On 1/29/2020 at 12:13 PM, Yonkon said:

But now a questioned entered my mind: Has qiqong the same purpose as sitting meditation or yoga? I want to become healthy in body and mind, calm my being and open my heart. Is QiGong the right practice for walking this path?  

 

Imagine that i commit to a life long mastery of Qiqong, where would this lead me, what will get out of the practice?

Another Question that is related: will all practices lead me to the same thing the one way or another?

Yes,  please watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBAHRqOtJDQ

On 10/9/2019 at 9:30 AM, OverseerFeatheredImmortal said:

Edit: BTW my yin tang acupressure point(googled it) felt weird to. Before whenever I press it, a stabbing and pointy feeling arouses on it making my head and eyes calm. Now pressing it makes no difference. It is beating too.

It means whatever symptom you had is no longer exist. If you understand how acupuncture works?

I watch movies late at night. So, I go to bed very late and woke up with braintire. Sometime in the afternoon, I sat at a semi lotus position and closed my eyes. Taken Taoist breathing, like slow deep breathing, for 15 to 20 minutes in a trancelike state. Then, I felt like I was rejunvenated and replenished. As a mater of fact, sometimes, I have to meditate before conducting a Tai Chi class.

On 10/28/2019 at 5:04 PM, zero said:

..... And I'm simply here to gain insight.

 

I have a starting off question regarding thought .

 

In meditation to communicate with the subconscious, between the spoken word and pure concentrated thought alone, which is more powerful? I think speaking maybe more powerful because sound vibration? Id like to hear others thoughts on this.

IMO Meditation is not to communicate between spoken words and subconsciousness. Rather we let the subconscious to dictate the spoken words or not. Spoken words are intentional by the subconscious. However, the subconscious has two choices of action. It is either intentional or spontaneous. The purpose of the meditation is to keep a cleat mind and alert to react spontaneously without thinking.

The pure concentrated thought alone is to initiate not to have any thought at all. Thus one would have a clear conscious to put oneself in a neutral state. This is know as a Taoist meditation. There is also one more requirement for the kind of meditation: slow deep breathing. Sorry to say, there are 90% of the people were not told or ignored about the part of breathing in meditation.

On 12/29/2019 at 4:46 PM, Nintendao said:

Okay! The OCR got around %75 accuracy. Not bad considering the print is smudged in places. I filled in the missing pieces and horizontalized it all to come up with the completed version. It describes treating different kinds of chapped skin, rashes and bites

林弼臣                 The name of the inventor
萬應濕毒藥膏     Multipurpose poultice

耑治皮膚           Especially a cure for skin
濕毒週身痕療   Itchy body
亁濕疥癩小兒胎 
毒汗班各癬油螆角
虱及皮面起粒水流    bubbles with fluid on the skin surface  
如珠違生爛脚冷天   athlete's foot cracks in the winter
裂手無名腫毒均      cracked skin on the hands 
能治之                     all may be cured

治法 Instructions
每日搽(揉)一次         Apply once a day
倘遇出水難揉    If skin often contacted with water,
用布開貼            Then use a cloth pad for patching  

1 hour ago, CloudHands said:

 

I want to support that, all that. Taiji Quan is a type of qi gong -with practical, martial applications- but the greatest gem is in the qi gong.

Yes, however, there two types of Qi gong: static and dynamic. Static is motionless like sedentary and isometric; and dynamic is isotonic exercise like Tai Chi. If Tai Chi performed properly, deep breathing will kick in after a long period of diligent practice. Breathing is the key beneficial factor from practicing qi gong. If deep breathing was not performed in Tai Chi to coordinate with the movements, one is not doing Tai Chi and accomplished nothing.

2 minutes ago, Owledge said:

So "yuan" is not specifically Chinese currency but just means one basic unit of currency?

"Kuài" is slang? Like "bucks" for dollars?

Exactly!

On 10/29/2019 at 3:38 PM, Owledge said:

The characters are "五毛" ( "Wǔmáo" )

Hi guys,

"五毛" ( "Wǔmáo" ) means fifty cents.
毛 is 1/10 of a any currency. It is 1/10 of a yuen(元), a Chinese dollar. It is analogous to a dime in USD. 

yi yuan(一元) is analogous to a US dollar.
one 塊/kuài means yi yuan(一元)

meiyuan(美元) means American dollar.

meijin(美金) means American currency.
RMB(人民幣) means people's currency.  

To distinguish the kind of currency in dollar wise, the sign in the Chinese market would have posted as such:
yi yuan(一元)  RMB(人民幣)
yi yuan(一元)  meijin(美金)


PS Sorry ChiDragon is back!

Just do a Richard Clear search on google! He has a whole series of Tai Chi demos.

Hi, Mspitzer65:
Do the lotus sitting as suggested above but you must do slow deep breathing constantly. It is because you will need lots of oxygen for your body to perform all the activities of the internal organs. Even you are not sitting in a lotus position, you should do the slow deep breathing method as your normal breathing habit if you can. Breathing slowly means inhale and exhale slowly.
 

I am sure you will feel the difference in your health condition in few weeks or months.

BTW  Taiji is the best exercise to improve your health.

Returndragon
 

TDB ADM

May ask am I accepted as a new member to the site yet? Do I need to wait for my approval to respond to any post? Would you please give me an answer. Thanks.

Hello, everyone:
I was a long time member here,  AKA Chidragon. Now, I am returning back to the Thedaobums community; and hope things will be better in a Taoist atmosphere! Thank you very much!