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Teenagers should go dating, gyrate their hips to pop music, and yes even have sex. Yes indeed. Seems clear that this thread is simply about avoiding life. Not good. It is just fake Bramacharya, probably due to emotional pain. What will you do with "tremendous power" .... what you are gong to do with it. Because you know what is really "tremendous power", is when you walk your girlfriend home under the autumn trees after having a "nice time" and then you hold her in your arms and give her a kiss. Now that is power. And you can also meditate and stand on your head whatever all is good.

Even if this was so, does it mean I am the king of the world ? Hardly. If I am where is my crown ? Seer, Seen, Seeing : are 3 things. One might have an interest to investigate each one individually. Mystic talk, is not much different to drinking whisky.

If you are "everything" .... why can't you do anything ? Look at what "everything" is doing : makes the Sun comes up, makes the seas, the wind, makes the planets, make the light. And you ? Can you go to the bathroom without making a mess ? Do you think perhaps, you are a rather vain and non-too-bright monkey ? Lost like opium pipe smokers, they'll still be debating (i.e dreaming) in a thousand years. Except the clock is ticking, maybe you don't have a thousand years. What does existence do to the acorns that didn't grow ? What is their future ?

The lion will become man.

The greatest and last trick of the ego is to convince you that you do not exist. So that you expend your life's energies in the destruction of your own soul. Blessed is the lion which the man eats, and the lion will become man; and cursed is the man whom the lion eats, and the lion will become man.

Take a good look at this beautiful image of New York. A good long look. Look to the left, look to the right. Look at the sky, look at water. Do you see yourself anywhere ? Well do you ? Do you ? No - you see, you don't exist !!!

If it is already awake, then how can it awaken ? Two kinds of monkeymen exist on the planet. The first will respond to this question by saying : exactly ! The second will respond by saying : "yes you know that's a good point perhaps we need to be more intelligent". Never ! Why we need to be intelligent when life is such great yabba dabba fun ?

But why are the arrows concrete ? - only joking

Working conclusion is that you prioritise the body's H & E access, to not do that would make a big mess. But if you are aligned with the vertical then you have the Earth's H & E additionally. The practice might have to be altered in the different positions. When horizontal it might be more personal internal, and also disconnecting you from the ordinary orientation might encourage you to actually feel it, rather than riding on the wave of the planets energy.

Hi there is a thread called : Terry Dunn : 6 Harmonies 8 Methods : Liu He Ba Fa I think it should be renamed to remove Terry Dunn's name. Maybe to something like 6 Harmonies 8 Methods : Liu He Ba Fa : Different Schools Cheers

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Many traditions and forms are clinically deceased. And if they aren't growing or moving, then they are dying. That goes for all of life. The most important thing is to the green shoots of new growth whatever you are doing. If you are making love to your wife of 50 years. Same !!! Many monkeys just repeat what the old guy ( cue grandmaster sifu guru srisrisrisri maha ) was doing. And I suppose the original purpose of this was to guarantee that the tradition was alive. But it can also be a way to disguise the death of the tree. Stick with the living spirits.

It doesn't "block the addition" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you have a normal graph with x and y, and you have a point (3,5). You STILL can't add 3 + 5 = 8 !!!! The i has got nothing to do with it. That's like saying my friend lives 20 miles north and 20 miles east. Where does he live ? 40 miles away !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Without recognition, yes.

What do you get ? The truth is that some people will feel their bodies, some their feelings, some will be lost in the mind. Some, a few perhaps, will feel their soul. Others might actually activate a soul that was cultivated in a previous lifetime. But nobody checks. Nobody even things to check. Everyone smiles, shakes hands, and goes home. And tomorrow nothing at all has changed, for most.

Q : If we are already awakened, then why aren't we awakened ? A : Because we are not already awakened. Q : Then why does Papaji talk like this ? A : Because he doesn't know any better. Q : How can you ever become something different to what you are already ?!!! A : Easily. If you train to be a lawyer you develop a new part of you. Of course it is you, but it is also a part of you that only develops if you choose to. Q : How can the Upanishads be wrong ? A : Read Astavakra. He makes it clear that the state of awakening is rare even for monks. Q : Are we not "the one Brahman" ? A : The point of the invocation "You are The Brahman" ... is to encourage you to feel inside you for the One, and in so doing it activates and grows that part of you that would otherwise remain dormant. This invocation is not a statement of fact, but a practice. Note : Papaji learnt from Ramana over a period of several years. Unfortunately because Papaji had family to support and no money he began giving Satsangs and charging, and Westerners turned up and it became a bit of a circus. When you make a circus it is easy for your message to downplay the importance of years of practice and the rarity of the awakened state - it's not good for business to talk about tthat.

All this makes me wonder if mankind goes deeper into his imaginations and technologies in proportion to his lack of comprehension of himself. He cannot make progress with himself, so he causes trouble elsewhere. i is more i-candy for the mind. The never ending mind-pain whirling around. "Scientists" today are so mental and dull, like crazed monkeys on steroids competing to push their mind even faster, compared to the brightness and soul-journey-ness of the Ancient Greeks. In general humans don't value real numbers, they don't value reality, they don't sense reality, life is one long dream-nightmare.

There are different "everythings" that you can merge with. If you go out the top of the head you enter the subconscious realm. You don't want to go there. It's full of amazing colours and lights and things ... If you have been attracted to astral travel and such things then naturally the subconscious realm is the same excitement. I wonder if this simply leads to a slow death. The conscious realm is out the back of the head. I know I know. You don't care you will do it anyway. N.P.

What ? Marblehead said in relation to the Red Point that -3 + 1 = 2 .... and you think the only problem with this is that he didn't include i !!! Wow that's a good one. There is no -3 + 1 it is actually -3x + 1y, each axis is fully independent of each other.

What do the axes on this graph represent ? And what do the points on it represent ? What does i represent ?

That is called being unconscious. Living without purpose. Being unable to comprehend how to live. Lack of integration of conceptual knowledge and being. Lack of being. Many "scientists" today are human beings who have no being, and live in a souped up brain that processes data on steroids, whilst the soul is slowly dying. Science used to mean something else in the days of Ancient Greece. It was a way of being, of individual being, of tradition of learning, it had soul. Today ... some science speakers you can look straight through them, all that is there is data, soulless high speed mouths.

If you say so, but anyway .... isn't (-3,1) sufficient where is the need for i ? Is there something I am missing ?

If i= sqrt( -1) .... and then ? It's a definition. Or pf = sqrt ( gigantic pink flamingo ) .... another definition. er .... you can make as many definitions as you like. Some "interesting" questions are : - do humans play with their imagination / complex / irrational / unreal ideas because they have not been able to comprehend how to make progress in reality ? - why are real numbers good ? - what is the "spiritual" meaning usefulness purpose behind all these concepts ? - when is imagination not good, and what is a good use for the imagination ?

Red is -3,1 .... it's a vector, no need for i .... is there ?

Enjoying the essential patterns found on the mountain, is for those who look from below. To climb you need the specific tools and the specific path and the yearning. Every hand hold is specific. Every breath. Soon you leave the spectators below, sitting in their fur coats, sipping their espressos. Soon forgotten, blow away by the lungs. Up, up here, the air is clean. The path rejoined, meaning rejoined, truth rejoined. And the wild goose, leaves no shadow.