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I saw that some DVDs are available called Gifts of the Tao. Are you able to describe what kind of things are on there ? Are they movements that lead to spontaneous vibration and discharge and freeforming ?

Okay but if the goal is to have the natural flow, then why the need for instructions and specific energies ? They might good for cleaning out certain channels that you choose, or activating certain energy patterns that you wish for. It might be good short term and to get started, but long-term aren't we trying to be natural ?

Some videos/ DVDs that seem to be from the lineage holder : http://store.qigongamerica.com/

If it is spontaneous qigong, why the long instructions ? Surely the instructions get in the way. Other teachers just sort of start you off and you let the energy fly, this happens in many Osho meditations, bioenergetics, ecstatic shaking and so on. Is there a difference, ultimately ? Once you are free and the energy is flowing through you .... is there a difference between these techniques For instance if someone is doing ecstatic shaking or ecstatic free dancing, isn't that spontaneous ? I notice that the instructions start with a meditation to concentrate the mind (forehead) and ground (bellybutton) which is good, but other than that I don't see the point.

Well the answer is that you can't clean yourself with dirty water. Therefore you should prioritise the awakening of that inside you which is clean, your real self or real consciousness. And that normally occurs with transmission and the embodying of that transmission. Working with the lower self is practical for many reasons and so should be done as well. However the one thing that has to be placed firmly in your intelligence is that you cannot clean yourself with dirty water, and that awakening is not a step by step process. Because the light is always light, there are no shades in it. The lower self can be sorted out so that it is reasonably harmonious. But then again as few people are able to gauge how clean or dirty a person is then this kind of approach is a bit silly. If you can't judge how clean you are what is the point of cleaning ? Well there is a point, it is common sense and responsible. In my opinion in every case I have seen awakening was a result of transmission landing on fertile ground. And for many seekers once they arrived, they threw away all their books and theories and often regarded them as wasted time. And then there is the question of how you prepare yourself as fertile ground ? Often those stuck in books are intellectualising the path in combination with hiding and physically abusing themselves, coupled with the delusion that having multiple energetic mink-coats is going to help them. But then again there are those who are sincere and have good hearts and do the practical lower self work quite nicely. Oh yes, lest I forget. The ego-self can in no way understand self-realisation as ego-self is just a completely shattered corrupted mess with no practical connection to the light. So one thing the ego-self does is try to create step-by-step paths up the mountain but they lead nowhere. You see this everywhere, with the reading of books Christianity, or the numbers game in Buddhism, or the X number of limbs of yoga, or the many deity levels of tantra and so on. Here are some important questions : > How can I prepare myself as fertile ground for self-realisation ? > Where can I get transmission from ? > Is my energy work coming from the soul, or just a souped up false-self ? > If I die tomorrow in a car accident, will I realise that I have wasted my life as I take my last breath ?

I really like his guts to get into the texts and make his own sense of them, not fear them or think they are distant wisdom that cannot be understood. I like that. But ... the question is where do these instructions get you. Anywhere ? For instance in interviews he talks of having a healthy lifestyle. Does that mean he personally still feels bound to the body ?

When it says it goes into unparalleled detail does that mean he is enlightened and beyond suffering and death ? If not how can you know it's detail means anything ? And if the old man is not beyond death, why follow him, as his fate will become your fate ?

And spirituality is making sure it is "with us".

All it means is that you are acting from your soul rather than from the ego. And so you can have a sense of non-doership. Of course the ego is very noisy and coarse so when you are beneath the ego it sounds silent. But ... this is another illusion. Your soul isn't silent. The soul is the part of the great self that is growing inside this form. The ego in order to feel alive has to keep moving, doing, thinking. Just like a shark has to keep swimming in order to breathe because of the design of it's body. So the ego is always rushing around. When the soul is discovered within then you can rest. For many people in history, they get such a relief from this that they imagine many things. Some imagine they don't exist. Others that they are God. Others that nothing is happening. Others that they are not-human. Others that they are superman. Others that they don't need sex anymore. They have finally reached peace and often don't use their intelligence any more. They are neither God nor nothing. They are simply their soul, which is normal. Doing still occurs but in a different way. Intelligence and creativity and exploration still occurs, but from a place of wholeness.

Does anyone have hard experience of burning through deep blockages with intensive fire & water practice. Like inhale water exhale fire, for some intensive period. On a particular area. Does it work ?

The forum has been re-coded with disastrous results it is barely usable now, happened when the website was re-freshed. I suppose I am the dour musings person you refer to.

Do you read the guidance ? Perhaps you are too busy wrapping yourself in silk robes and pretending to be a dragon. Nobody cares if you die like that btw. You have to care.

02/09/2018

Agreeing with the analysis of historian Susan Kingsley Kent, historian Nicoletta Gullace writes that "the invasion of Belgium, with its very real suffering, was nevertheless represented in a highly stylized way that dwelt on perverse sexual acts, lurid mutilations, and graphic accounts of child abuse of often dubious veracity."[12]:19 In Britain, many patriotic publicists propagated these stories on their own. For example, popular writer William Le Queux described the German army as "one vast gang of Jack-the-Rippers", and described in graphic detail events such as a governess hanged naked and mutilated, the bayoneting of a small baby, or the "screams of dying women", raped and "horribly mutilated" by German soldiers, accusing them of cutting off the hands, feet, or breasts of their victims.[12]:18–19 Gullace argues that "British propagandists were eager to move as quickly as possible from an explanation of the war that focused on the murder of an Austrian archduke and his wife by Serbian nationalists to the morally unambiguous question of the invasion of neutral Belgium". In support of her thesis, she quotes from two letters of Lord Bryce. In the first letter Bryce writes "There must be something fatally wrong with our so-called civilization for this Serian cause so frightful a calamity has descended on all Europe". In a subsequent letter Bryce writes "The one thing we have to comfort us in this war is that we are all absolutely convinced of the justice of the cause, and of our duty, once Belgium had been invaded, to take up the sword".[12]:20 What are the causes of war ? Well why do human beings love violent news ? Every day most of the population clings to it, the say they hate it but boy do they drink it down. No need to be worried about war, this fact tells all. Perhaps they have nothing else. Being so repressed and stiff, too frightened of the crowd to dance and sing and choose the things they like, human society is full of people who do things they hate, say things they don't mean, choose partners they aren't suited for ... in a desperate hope of being accepted by "society" and not be cast out in contravention of the what was expected. Perhaps they lost their sense of humour. And so humans are unhappy, and from their unhappy bolt-hole, they seek relief by way of violent images that express their deep pain that somehow they are so lost in they don't know how to free themselves. Perhaps they could do qigong, moving their arms and legs politely and slowly in the park. Crying screaming raging and sobbing .... ii.e their real feelings ... would attract too much attention.

Interesting article, more details on the international rivalries prior to WW1, and also the astrology of the major players: https://astrologyresearch.co.uk/causes-of-the-1st-world-war-saturn-and-pluto/

Meaning : Inhale : visualise blue-black water element entering you from below with sound choo on inhale exhale : visualise fire element descending from crown turning body brick red with sound haaa on exhale Repeat slowly alchemising either the whole body or a particular location

Well I did try this for half hour on a small area, with some success but very arduous and there are better ways - see the most powerful blockage clearing thread.

And there's more. Although I am still doing qigong I have somewhat given up on it as a major blockage clearer. Here's what I do now with big success : 1. Zhan Zhuang, either Santi or last 2 postures in Lam Kam Chuen's Way of Energy. 2. Bioenergetics, for instance Pelvic Release by Devaraj on youtube 3. This Dancing / Emotions CD is very good https://dragonrising.com/store/emotrance_energy_dancing/1/ if you can get it. Dancing or something like it, is a natural method of healing for mammals. Same with bioenergetic shaking. 4. Solar Plexus : emotion centre - being firmly connected internally tot this centre allows you to work with emotions otherwise they will swim around forever with no centre, it has to be embodied. Better if you embody Tantien / SP / Heart all together, then you have a solid anchor for your emotions/feelings. If you know how to do this. Qigong methods I find useless, and after several years I officially abandon them for this purpose.

Truthfully our people need love and truth and the company of whole people, healthy people. And they hurt inside without contact with the Light. May they on their journeys find some light to keep their own flame of life alive.

When your enemies come in tanks carrying guns you know where you are. But what if they come with the victimhood of "we are all suffering, let's just make world peace". Excuse me while I vomit. I have come full circle on this dribble. Underneath the kissy-kissy words is often a violent greed, revenge and nastiness of people who haven't got what they want. And will not, and do not, know how to help themselves. And it's everywhere these days. The entire conventional medical industry is full of it, you would be mad to ask them to help you. This culture just works through leeching each other's energy, with smiley unconscious eyes, and something nasty within. Perhaps these humans have something else inside where their soul should be. In the old days the danger of such people was well-known and they were thrown out the city walls. Today the drunken dreaming emotion-stealing has infected many. It's certainly not what it seems. This culture would like nothing more to kissy-kissy whilst they hoover your soul right out of you. Oh yes, they want to "help you". Start running.

In LKC's first book, there are some positions where you rotate the top half 45 degrees, holding the ball to the side, and also a pose on one leg, these are good for me. That's about my level actually.

I don't think people really understand why wars take place or why they do things. Often it seems to me there is a resistance to an energetic transition; fear incomprehension, lack of understanding how to progress, then collapse.

I bought Scott Meredith's Bare Metal Internals today. It's not completely related but I thought I would mention it. He has the tiger posture from Way of Power in it, and Santi. Although his beef is about power cultivation. But I would begin with the de-traumatizing blockage dissolving that is my priority. Still always nice to listen to someone who inhabits that region between insanity and genius.

One thing I learnt from Gurdjieff and from other people everywhere is that you can do more, you can work like a hero if you really want to. Gurdieff used to call it "work like a Christian", a real Christian. Is the question ... do I want to ? Or is the question ... do I have the right not to ? Do I have the right to live as a bum ? The inner hero is created through our courage, one small piece at a time. I have wasted much of my life, may I do better.

Hmm. Beard stroking. Sometimes I have a picture that mankind starts to grow through struggle against his suffering but after a certain point he rises too high and loses focus and meaning and drops back down. And society's history flows up and down over the centuries like this. And when society flows upwards at a certain point people are strong in their hearts and they reach escape velocity, people who get realised on the upward surge of this wave when there is strength heart and steel in it. And then once again it goes too high and crashes down. Of course there are realisers in every era, and this is only one mechanism. Many great spiritual thinkers have tried to comprehend this world and failed, because it seems so real so possible, but then things fail again. There are many ways to live here, some good, some terrible, but there is not one way. Perhaps it's instability gives many opportunities for growth not found in more stable planes. "A functioning conscience" : Dennis Prager. Yes and Gurdjieff used to talk of "Essence Shame", the shame of having what you do not deserve. In any case humans are clearly very vulnerable to all manner of bad habits and bad directions, with such weakness inside the only road is the straight one. Perhaps in the past humans were 10ft tall angelic beings, and their moral degeneration is also reflected in their current shortness. Who knows. Today I have the opportunity to work and try to become worthy. After that, in the words of Toni Kurz who died on the Eiger, "Ich kann nicht mehr". Another possibility is that there was never a "good society", and when we remember the heroes and the good world, we are remembering a possible future, if you see what I mean. We are intuiting that such a place could exist if we do the right thing. We explain it to ourselves by imagining a wonderful past before the fall. But in fact it never existed, it is only a intuited image of a possible future.