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Exactly which means when being angry, let anger be. Don't interfere.

Well I think it's important to consider the details, a simpleminded view of it would just lead to foolishness, as I described earlier. But of course the end result is that you become yourself, and stop pretending to be other than what you are. Humans don't just suffer from problems, but from continuously the same problems for their whole lives - this has to stop. The self-aversion must end. Meaning you consciously embody all the energies of your being. Hence embrace the earth and heaven will follow, It may be true that torturing yourself can lead to awakening, but it often doesn't, though if it works for you, so be it. With all paths a careful examination of the details and pitfalls and intentions is required as well as practical experience. Probably we need the contrast of opposites for our intelligence to grow, some self-torture, and some self-acceptance. In fact the last moment of Buddha's path was him touching the earth, because he questioned whether he was worthy to become himself.

I think it's a good plan, practical. But it's still rather small. In the end truth is simply truth, and you cannot be other than what you are. The activation energy of anger ... how long will you not allow it ? Or judge it ? Same for all the other parts of your energy system ? You see at some point, you resistance has to end, because there is no other way. Perhaps it will be alright. - but you are right probably some people will think ... okay then and punch someone in the face ... which is not actually accepting your energy but unconscious acting-out. So ... there is quite a lot of work to do before you could understand these ideas properly.

Well that's the problem you have an image given to you, and then you try to make it happen with all the things you do. Rather than just being real and living with no image. The story of Buddha shocked the hell out of me, but it was in the Pali Cannon's traditional stories of Buddha and was read out at a Vipassana retreat in the evening. Truth is I was very angry hearing that story and accosted the teacher the next day in his study - I am still not sure what it means. The images that mankind gives itself are very nice and simple and we can all try to paint by the numbers. It's just so fake. It's strange that people associate such idiocy with Buddha's journey, because he was not like that, otherwise he would have stayed in the castle and did everything just 1.2.3 like he was supposed to. But, fortunately or unfortunately, he with a shock experienced life itself outside the walls and when he returned he was no longer interested in the world of 1.2.3 paint by the numbers, yes sir please and thank you, he saw it's insincerity. His father tried very hard since he was young to prevent him leaving the system, replacing dying flowers with fresh and well behaved ones. Don't be so negative and stop talking about sick people dying and drunk dancing girls. You are being really negative young Siddhartha. Just be mature and do like we are doing, okay sonny, if it was good enough for us why do you think you are so special. But it was not okay, and he left. Strange thing is, after a couple of generations Buddh-ism seems to have been turned 180degrees upside down, at least for some people. Same as all the wars committed in well-behaved Jesus' name. I think the fearful selectively delete the parts were Jesus threw down the office tables of the money changers and told people to get a sword, and the bit where he said I have come to turn you against your families. Deleted automatically. Because the fearful have no guts to stand up against anything ... they just want a little bit of hand holding whilst they do like the last generation did. Ha !

Maya likes to consume humans, preferably deep fried .... that comes from Siddhameshwar Maharaj. Imagine a person born in this world of illusions, lied to on all sides, forced into the treadmill, pressured by parents, deceived my newspapers, stuffed with lies from all sides, running on that treadmill his whole life whilst others extract money from him, pumping out children to become the next group of slaves, drinking and watching movies to stay sane, and then dying of some disease. And then right at the end Maya turns up to suck the blood out of the corpse who has lived in hell deceived from the beginning. I quit this shit

It is not really so. There is a classic story of Buddha standing in front of an elderly couple who had destroyed their lives through alcoholism and lost their fortunes and he laughed at them. In his journey he had defied his father, defied his whole society, he had studed with the greatest teachers available and left them telling them their truth was not the truth. All the great sages had fire. But extinguishing yourself is greatly respected by a society of prisoners. If they catch you trying to be alive they will crucify you, they will cut your head off because it reminds them of what they have done to themselves. They betrayed life itself. Only the fire is immortal. Even when you sit still, the cowardice is still there. People sit, but concentrate. They sit, and try to be enlightened. They sit and ... whatever the fk they can think of. And they hope, someone is watching them and "respecting" their maturity. To be really still is to burn in a blaze. The light is not a trembling coward. Wow, I must really be crazy ! I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about !!!

Very true, I was just reading about the Communist Revolution in China where the young were incited to distrust their country. But the roots are from decades ago, overconfidence, overgrowth, overcorruption, and then an absence of material and lost generations, and then distrust.

In the TTC it says embrace the earth and heaven will follow ... well what does that mean? People read these texts whilst sipping tea and thinking themselves very special, because they are spiritual and advanced and imagine they sit on a white throne. Actually what we are meant to understand, is to embrace what you are, including the things you run from, your sexuality, your natural self-protection that people disdain as anger, your own personal self and so on. Embrace your normal self, that is the earth. And without a fuss. And heaven will follow. The unconscious masses are lost inside themselves, like an unconscious sea, they cannot be said to embrace anything. Others think they embrace ... but really they wish to be Mother Theresa and don't embrace themselves but whip themselves. Yet others embrace .... but refuse to be themselves, they embrace from a distance like "the management". And others jump up and down smashing things and screaming like bioenergetics, which is mindless and leads nowhere. Being yourself, the sun, the clouds, the thunder, the lightning ... but without making it personal, that is embracing the earth. That is being natural. The Buddhists and others became confused and lost their way ... the only thing they had left was to self-torture, self-denigrate, self-deny, but this is not a very good way. It can work but still why do it this way.

Yes the level of conditioning is quite extreme about such things. Underneath it is the self-hatred, refusal to exist. The ego is behind it. What we call anger is simply self protection and self activation energy, everyone has it, even God responds to things, that's karma. But the ego fantasises about being perfect about being spiritual and better. The level of conditioning of self-hatred is quite extreme. Pretending you don't exist, pretending that when people crap on you that you aren't angry. Pretending you are somehow immune to simple things. It's all ego. She explains it well. Never getting angry is self-righteous, you think you are above it all. That will trigger conflict with this world. Walking around thinking that you are too good for this place. If you can't even accept your meagre self at this low level, how will you accept yourself at a higher level. Having so many strategies to be better than what you are here, the same will happen everywhere. I can only think this will cause failure on the spiritual journey.

Problem with this type of idea, of which they are innumerable in the TTC, is that it is an attitude that you take towards the external. But in my opinion whatever attitude you take towards the external ... is irrelevant. Because it is only when you stop looking outside and do the inner work of self-recognition that you will be enlightened. Good question. And a real question. One reason is that our society lives in the castle of a previous more capable era. If our society burnt to the ground, this generation would not be able to recreate it. So in fact we are frauds, and we fool ourselves pretty good. In fact this situation is untenable and the castle will fall at some point. A second answer is that the inner derangement of human beings is hidden but very real. A third answer is that for many reasons of our own making and many reasons not of our own making our species suffers and are deeply unhappy and this is expressed by harming others. A fourth reason is that we are not conscious and we don't live in reality. In this world a good rule of thumb is to estimate how much effort it takes to get to the finish line. And then do 3 times as much. And do it 3 times faster than you think you have. And then ... you might just make it. Life gives you many many second chances. But eventually you will run out time and as you age it will get harder. Such things can lead you to intensive work, and intensive stillness, equally. Those who are most ignorant rush to publish books teaching people how to be, or take positions of power. Perhaps as an instinct to hide their nothingness. And those who are awake, are hesitant, it is a dangerous place to be a moral man. Our species deserves to be living in trees with the gorillas, but through some misfortune, one part of us has become overdeveloped, what we call the "mind" which seems to have developed in relation to hunting, the hunting part of our mind that focusses externally on controlling the environment ... that is overdeveloped, far ahead of the rest of us. So we can make "technology" to robotise things and blow things up and wreck havok. But we cannot do anything else, we cannot really understand anything. We cannot solve problems, and we don't know what our problems actually are. So like an addict we resort to more technology (more external control). But it won't work. Because we can exert control externally, we assume that we are okay. But we are not okay. Humans talk about their plans, about their dreams, about solving their problems. But they all die and nobody is checking whether anything really got achieved. The plug is pulled and it's over. Nobody checks to see if the plans were achieved, if they did the music would stop. Many people even fool themselves that they are spiritual. Whole lineages and traditions are like the Marie Celeste, a ghost ship that continues but nothing is alive within it. It's chaos. It is the kind of territory where extreme measures need to be taken. You don't have to learn the first time disaster strikes, but you should learn soon enough.

Paris 1927. Vanity, self-pride, and feeling full of yourself all in full effect. Busy, even 100 years ago.

As for spiritual teachers King Jade. I have always found most useful is to read the life of the teachers, or of people who have endured. That includes Marcus Aurelius who would meditate every day in the morning saying to himself that today I will meet an unending stream of bad mannered and antagonistic people. That was his morning ritual.

Committing suicide is just another way to keep the ego. This time you sacrifice your life so that the illusions can continue. Strange, but true. In fact most people are sacrificing their life to continue a mad dream. There is only one solution.

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The Goenka schools are in my opinion quite violent in their approach and attract people with unloving hearts. In the UK there is the IMC International Meditation Centre which teaches Vipassana in a better way, but from a neighbouring tradition to Goenka ... it's a good place. Also the recordings of Goenka's 10 day lectures are available online and you can listen to them; I enjoyed them but the school that is set up in his name I did not enjoy. With Mantak Chia, I studied Michael Winn a lot .... anyway Chia has extended and extended the practices so that they are very over-convoluted, and I have found that sticking to the core basics and going deeply into them is better. Better to learn one thing well than several unhappily. Bipolar type things, I think can be well addressed with practices around connecting to your inner child, who is often ractive and fragmented, and I personally do "Inner Bonding".

Just make a plan for today. Just for today. Let go of tomorrow, of worrying about the world, or worrying about yourself. Just make a plan for today. If the morning goes well, the day will go well. Work on small things.

You have many good ideas, heroic ideals, and skepticism and courage, which I commend. However ... I get the distinct impression that your furious heroic external work is simply being lost in the mind and making justifications for it, controlling and instrumentalising the world. You seem to have no stability or quiet respect within you, nor a quiet appreciation of your own inner truth, the gently spring of life that does not rush. The false self of ordinary people is rushing about doing many things being heroic, and giving themselves many justifications ... and there are those who do the same but using the guise of spirituality.

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What practices are you doing ? Buddhist stuff ? And what is movement samadhi ? Is it going for zen walks ? You don't seem to comprehend the means by which the subject recognizes the subject. If I understand you rightly, you imagine you would use your external perception again. But that's not how it works. It is internal, and effortless recognition.