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Why is there this obsession of having a name that is not translatable or may not even have a correspondence in another language, now I see, if it was a German or French term then scholars write and try to pronounce it in German or French, just giving an example. So why if it is Chinese, we need to have a word in English?
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On 7/30/2018 at 1:12 AM, Limahong said:Hi Mig,
My comments - in between your lines:
... my mind is not my body.
- Your mind and your body belong to The One as an unity thus:
I used to have a lower back pain and nothing doctors, chiropractor, PT, etc. wouldn't guess until by accident I found it was piriformis syndrome.
- You really found it by accident?
Today, I found the right medication and right exercises and I am doing well.
- Very good re the 'right's.
And I can tell you I couldn't listen my body...
- Maybe The One will give teach you.
... just be aware of the symptoms and that's why I asked how do we listen our bodies??
- Subconsciously?
- You must answer your own ??
- LimA
Yes, I found it by accident as I never felt anything in all the piriformis area. By pressing and realizing that I had a problem so even if I heard my body, the numbness and lower back pain were not the root of the problem. It was the sciatica nerve.
just be aware of the symptoms and that's why I asked how do we listen our bodies??
- Subconsciously?
- You must answer your own ??
I couldn't answer the question until I challenged doctors and found the solution by trial and error
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8 hours ago, Marblehead said:Good question.
Start with your emotions. Whenever you experience an emotion, whether positive or negative, ask yourself why this emotion came into being. Ask yourself if it was something physical (that's natural and really no work to be done here) or if it was something, a belief, an understanding, that is in your mind that allows for or forces these emotions to your consciousness.
And from there we can find ways to listen to the rest of our mind and our body. As always, if there is an effect, there was a cause. Magic and miracles are not needed.
I hear you but my mind is not my body. I used to have a lower back pain and nothing doctors, chiropractor, PT, etc. wouldn't guess until by accident I found it was piriformis syndrome. Today, I found the right medication and right exercises and I am doing well. And I can tell you I couldn't listen my body, just be aware of the symptoms and that's why I asked how do we listen our bodies??
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On 7/11/2018 at 5:44 AM, Limahong said:Hi Dada-da,
- LimA
How can you listen your body?
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14 hours ago, Lost in Translation said:It has been five days and no one has seen him. I went to the local SPCA and animal control center. Nothing. At his age and health it is possible he's alive, but it would be a miracle. I don't think he is. The hardest part is not knowing, but that's a cat for you - very private creatures.
Cat's final lesson to me: You can't heal suffering without first experiencing suffering.
I love you, cat. Good bye.
I hear you my friend, there is nothing you can do, you did the best you could and that's something the cat was appreciative. Keep checking around and if there is nothing then remember the cat and hold those precious memories.
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On 6/27/2018 at 12:44 PM, Marblehead said:I had to put my last one down. Cancer. He was experiencing too much pain.
It's a hard decision. Do what's best for the cat.
How do we know is best for the cat? How do know the cat will say enough is enough, get me out of here?
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22 hours ago, vonkrankenhaus said:That is an interesting question.
To find the answer, you must correctly see what "part" there is to be, and of what.
And see if this is reality or fiction.
Because at the point of believing and doing this, it becomes real for you.
Even if it never was actually real.
-VonKrankenhaus
And the question again is about money. I can live with little money and I know most of my resources are limited. Then I see people chasing for the money and at least one of them will succeed and have better than the little I have. So the Daoist rhetoric about having less is better, don't really match in living in society. Unless, i have misinterpreted the Daoist texts or the DDJ. I think according to some Daoists you can blend in society, make money and cultivate the Dao and still being compassionate and helpful to others. That's the reason why I think those temples, congregations, movements were created to help each other.
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5 hours ago, rene said:Hi Mig -
Yes, that's from The Laozi - Chapter 33 - here is the Feng/English version:
Knowing others is wisdom;
Knowing the self is enlightenment.
Mastering others requires force;
Mastering the self needs strength.He who knows he has enough is rich.
Perseverance is a sign of willpower.
He who stays where he is endures.
To die but not to perish is to be eternally present.************
Everybody gets to decide what their own 'enough' is.
Others might think they need fancy clothes, expensive toys, big houses, etc - my needs are small.
A friend a long time ago said she felt guilty about owning a stereo
(yes, it was a looong time ago lolol) - but my thinking is, it's not so much what someone owns but rather their relationship to it. Is it so important to have a stereo that you'd work extra hours away from your kids to pay for it?
So yes, we need money, to meet our needs. Having small needs means needing less money.Extra money can be for fun things! Things that can be let go of, if the extra money goes away.
Everything you own - also owns you.
One of my favorite sayings is: The more roof you own, the more headache you have.
I understand my enough or what I need is not the same for other people. But the reality is that money it is a necessity. The difference of today and yesterday is that goods you couldn't get because it was reserved to the minority who could afford it, it was difficult to get and today, there are more choices to choose. And my comment was general in the beginning and more specific at the end. General as money prevails living in society and specifically we need money and usually it is expensive to get the most basics even our needs. Let's talk more about real examples as medication. True, I should have taken care of myself, but body cannot tell us tomorrow you will get sick because of disharmony or whatever and medication has become helpful. Oh well for many medication is too expensive so we have to deal with the illness or die. I haven't had that problem but have seen many cases either in USA or in poor countries. Thank you for your input, I think I am getting there trying to understand the Daoist perspective.
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8 hours ago, rene said:I like what LiEhr said - Whoever knows he has enough is already rich.
For me, 'enough' is food & shelter - and that I have. (-:
Is that from Laozi? Which chapter says that? and to have enough I guess we need money, so when is enough for you not be enough for somebody else, right?
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8 hours ago, Lost in Translation said:A Taoist is like water - he flows naturally and does not resist even the lowest of places. To live in the world without money takes a lot of effort. The path of least resistance is to develop a skill of value and use that skill to provide for yourself.
I guess you are referring to DDJ Chapter 8, right? The reference of water had made me to think, water can be also devastating as river floods or sea tsunamis (granted the water is pushed by jolts underground, for what I know). Living without a money to me is a bad marketing idea, it doesn't work, unless you live under the help or patronage of someone. And you are right about to develop a skill of value, some may make go by some make you rich. And still money is needed. You see, in the hood where I live there are nice houses and not affordable to everyone and still you see people living in those huge houses or nice houses. Then on the other side of the freeway there are the real homies and people don't want to live there but they can afford it and they live the American dream. So money still needed. And the question I asked how can you live in frugality when money is needed for the nice things in life.
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1 hour ago, Lost in Translation said:What's the importance of health?
What's the importance of happiness?
What's the importance of food?
What's the importance of shelter?
What's the importance of freedom?
Money is a means to an end, nothing more. It is a symbolic representation of value society places on your work. To say you don't need money is to say you don't need health, happiness, food, shelter or freedom. To say you don't need money is to say you don't need society to place value upon your work.
People confuse greed and covetousness for means and value. You may not need excessive amounts of money (a subjective term) but you absolutely need money, and there is nothing wrong with pursuing and gaining wealth.
And how that relates to Daoism? Whichever lineage or way of Dao?
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In previous posting, I mentioned about if Daoist is practiced by the well off, financially speaking. And now, I am looking for a job and started thinking, we need money to live in society and to pay whatever we need. Saying that we don't need money is being delusional or not being realistic. You have money, you have more to live better, nice in most of everything, you don't have money then you have to either survive or live a miserable life. Sure, I can hear people saying, I live to pay rent and then I don't need anything material. I don't believe in that as people when they talk they are not honest with themselves for the most part. So for those who are Daoists, what's the importance of money and how can you live comfortably when we know today the basics it has its price and good things usually are expensive to buy. Not to forget to rent a nice place in a nice area, it is common to see that renting is not affordable. So, do I need to live in the hood or the favelas just because that's all I can afford? And the cycle starts, should I sweat to work to pay bills or should I stay and become an hermit as the ones we see in YouTube?
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On 7/12/2018 at 12:29 AM, ALA said:Hi Mig,
I have found a new one here http://www.serenitystreetnews.com/HERSTORY CRAMNOTES/5dterra NOTES AUDIO VIDEO/ebooks/144000/Alchemy_Michael_Winn_Daoist_Internal_Alche.pdf 36 pages. I hope that it is the same one as in the link above.
Sorry about the long URL. I did not have the time to look it up how to shorten it but it works !
Thank you and that works. BTW I read a few lines and this one struck me:
"My thesis is that a deep language ability is stored in the qi field, and that One Cloud's
nei dan formulas are a good example of how it is possible to train oneself to directly
perceive and communicate with Nature's intelligence in a mostly non-verbal and non-
ordinary language."
It sounds deep structure a la Chomsky and it sounds to me plain generalization on language or better language in general. I agree with some linguists that language is an accident and the way we verbalize it is because of the pressure of air in our environment. But I think this is another topic of discussion.
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23 hours ago, Lost in Translation said:People are in their heads a lot. I once worked with a man who was so smart he could solve almost any computer problem before anyone else could even articulate the question, yet despite his intelligence I needed to literally walk next to him and prevent him from stepping in front of moving cars while crossing the street. Such is life...
I hear you, some people lack basic skills. As stated before, when I bike I look people coming down, chatting and when I get there, they won't pay attention to cross the bike path so I have to yell, "on your left", such is life
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On 7/12/2018 at 2:43 PM, liminal_luke said:There`s something very useful to be gained from this observation that motorists often cross through bike lanes seemingly unaware of bike traffic, and it has nothing to do with whether or not said motorists are stupid or not.
The takeaway for me is that bicyclists should be extra aware and extra careful so as to avoid getting hurt. This isn`t fair, I know. In a better world, drivers would be smarter, nicer, more careful. Unfortunately, there`s not a whole lot a single bicyclist can do to change the motoring world. It falls on bicyclists to protect themselves by wearing easily seen clothing and not making assumptions that cars are going to follow the law.
I`m sure you already do this, Mig, so my comment isn`t meant for you personally. Just something I thought could use saying.
Thanks. As for motorist, that's another topic of discussion. Indeed, car drivers think they own the world, I have had the experience of biking on the bike lane, three empty lanes with little traffic and there is almost always someone driving next me at full speed. I don't know how to label that but for me it is plain and simply stupidity. Every year there are cyclist victims. I know there are some idiots cyclists out there but personally, I am careful and keep an eye of traffic. When I drive, I respect cyclist space and if possible drive next lane. Again, my question was about how humans cannot pay attention when crossing a bike path. They certainly know they won't get hurt because they won't do the same if they cross a street, if you cross without paying attention death is inevitable.
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On 11/27/2012 at 10:05 AM, konchog uma said:right, here is the file
Is it a safe doc file? It was empty when I downloaded
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On 7/10/2018 at 9:53 AM, silent thunder said:I find people are deeply disconnected, not outrightly rude or dumb. It does seem to be something of an epidemic. I can't tell if it's greater now than it used to be, because I don't trust my own recall of such matters in my deep past.
But I clearly observe the disconnection of people to their immediate surroundings these days. And we bike those same exact paths down @ redondo... I'm sure we've passed each other a few times at the beach without even knowing it.
I don't think it's personal, or planned and it doesn't seem due to their being mean, lazy, or dumb. People simply seem disconnected in an almost trance like separation of awareness and presence from their immediate surroundings often. I used to get upset at it... now I'm just grateful that I recognize it as it seems to indicate that I may at least be present and aware.
I am glad you know what I am talking about it. Not sure about disconnected, it seems to me that they feel empowered. I remember someone saying that humans driving a car is a dangerous machine because they feel empowered and think they own the world then when they go to the beach is like they own the beach.
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7 hours ago, cosmic4z said:Generalising here, but I also find people often seem caught up in their own minds. Their attention not on what they're doing, but on what they're thinking about.
Do you really they are thinking about something? What could they think about? I wonder
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On 7/10/2018 at 9:53 AM, Chang said:My own view is that in any given group or population of humans the following holds true.
80% Idiots
10% Assholes
10% more or less alright.
There are those who argue that this is a rather negative outlook but I believe that it is correct.
Why 80% and not 90%, I feel I have a huge percentage of idiot and more and less of an asshole and more and less okay
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6 hours ago, wstein said:Most people are generally unaware.
Not sure about that. I noticed people get killed in a bus station or by the corner standing near the curb and get hit by a car. I have seen that time after time in three different continents and all I can think is lack of awareness. It seems we take for granted and lost that skill of self awareness.
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6 hours ago, Marblehead said:I think we shouldn't put those labels on them. Self-absorbed? Yes.
Those are the people who have most of the "accidents".
I find this to be very common no matter where one goes on the planet.
I don't know about labels and I know you can find them all over. You may think some kind of education or basic respect will help. I can see how some people in poor countries behave that way and mostly is because they were not educated to respect other or themselves. I am pretty those people I see, they pay attention when they cross the street. And also I remember people in a busy side walk on their phones, they forget people are around and in that case yes, I will agree they are self absorbed.
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It's been some time, I cycle around town and by bike path next to the ocean in sunny SOCAL. One thing I have noticed that people in general, I mean the majority of people, don't pay attention crossing the bike path, it seems they don't care if there is bike traffic. It doesn't matter if they are kids, young adults, adults. Older people, I understand why they don't pay attention. So each time, it makes me think, why they don't care or why don't they learn basic rules of respect. So are people stupid, disrespectful or careless?
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Wasn't a story of a Spaniard kid who was the chosen one and when he grew young adult and left?
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5 hours ago, Limahong said:Hi Mig,
The learning is us too.
- LimA
Chapter 40
反者道之動，The returning is the movement of the Tao
弱者道之用。The weak is the utilization of the Tao
天下萬物生於有，The myriad things of the world are born of being
有生於無。Being is born of non-being
Derek Lin translation
Robert Peng
in Daoist Discussion
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In this article I wonder why they put Lam Saiwing performing the famous form: kungchi fu fuk??