oak

18 minutes ago, old3bob said:

 

Throwing the baby out with the bathwater does matter...thus throwing out possible pointers to that which is beyond pointers is no better...

What matters is the teaching delivered with words and symbolic actions, most actions performed by "Jesus" were symbolic. To have a notion of their meaning one has to study the whole book. 

Anyway, the book of Revelation speaks of a book that is sealed with seven seals. Will an intellectual or skeptical approach break any of those seven seals? Don't think so.

Nope, what I'm saying is that the historical Jesus, just like the historical whale that swalloded Jonah don't matter.

35 minutes ago, Maddie said:

 

What do you base these claims on? Sources?

I would say my experience of having studied the  bible for many years as well as other mythology. Anyway, the version of the bible that was my favourite was a catholic one. I remember the commentaries that served as a preface to the NT.  There it was written that the 4 gospels aren't to be taken as a biography of Jesus. The point is that not even catholic authorities interpret the text that way.

If Jesus lived in India or if the Buddha lived in Israel doesn't matter, never did and never will...

Why the obsession of framing historically these...are there words to describe what they are or are not? Jesus is definately not the son of Mary as well as the Buddha is definately not Siddharta Gautama.

IMHO the juice is in the story never in history.

You listen to the blues on youtube and the advertising is all about having therapy...

Happy New Year, Michael 🥳

If nothing goes wrong, this January, I will enter university for the first time to study Osteopathy. Feeling the luckiest man alive about it. I've already told the wife " if it happens and you find me at anytime moaning about the course just kill me because I don't deserve to be living" 😂

Concerning practices, will try to evolve in my tai chi, yoga and meditation.

Wishing everyone serenity and inner peace regarding what we'll probably have to face in 2024. There will be good times as well 🙂

Summary: Stephen Hirtenstein leads us through the writtings of Ibn Arabi in an attempt to expose the esotericism of the Islamic faith in the quest of union with the divine.

I apologize in advance for the lack of time I will have to reply promptly to any possible comments.

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On 13/12/2023 at 5:24 PM, Nintendao said:

This one is sure to be unpopular 😇😈

 

Medieval alchemists were famous for doing all kinds of weird things, like boiling vats of piss to refine phosphorous, which glows in the dark, so is of course very magical.

 

Internal alchemists, being even more weird, huff and puff and wiggle about in a peculiar way that forces oxygen into the brain, causing them to see various lights floating around, that are of course very spiritual.

 

Medievel alchemists dirtied their hands and took risks knowing that most of all their faith and serious investment would guide them to the goal. An approach rarely seen these days when people think they can buy a clean and safe path.

6 hours ago, silent thunder said:

@oak Nice one!

Thanks! Glad you liked it, ST.

17 hours ago, liminal_luke said:

 

A long time ago, Jane Alexander was a member here and I remember her talking about her book.  Love the title, Possessing Me.  It seems to me that that´s what good spiritual practice does -- puts us in better possession of ourselves.  

I ended up buying and reading the book because you mentioned her somewhere in a thread about Bruce Frantzis (?). Anyway thanks for that liminal_luke.

Yogic tradition puts focus on the navel as well having it as the centerpoint where if you put your attention will give you knowledge of all the workings of the body (Yoga Sutras 3:29)

This makes sense to me as it is from this point that all the human body develops.

9 minutes ago, Taoist Texts said:

he may not be  buddhist. he may be an entertainer.  or he may be this

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20170426-the-people-who-never-feel-any-pain

or this

https://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/travel-leisure/article/3048074/no-pain-how-extreme-body-piercing-thaipusam-hindu-festival

be what he may so far i do not understand by what mechanism or  how exactly mindfulness can switch off the moral or physical pain.  normally what people say boils down to 'it just does'. meaning they do not know.

 

He was neither of those. He was someone that found he had the capability of detaching from physical pain while being tortured by the nazi in WW II.

I do have the experience of stopping extreme physical pain with mindfulness. Unfortunately it's not something that I've mastered or be able to reproduce. That's the reason for my interest in Jack Schwarz.

5 hours ago, Taoist Texts said:

so whoever is mindful does not feel physical pain?

May not...Jack didn't

13 minutes ago, Partez said:

 

I couldn't see anything for lasting longer here...

 

But I do remember reading that pressing down on the perineum will hold the flow of sperm.

Kidney 3. It does work with time.

https://www.cicutoacupuncture.com/new-blog/2016/12/19/acupressure-for-good-sex

Also kidney 3 for premature ejaculation.

3 hours ago, Apech said:

 

 So we have lots left over

 

Isn't little Apech happy about that ?