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    2 minutes ago, old3bob said:

     

    wrong and nothing i said is false,  the Bible repeatedly remarks about enteral hell, for instance in Revelations, and in the O.T. God orders the wiping out of certain tribes/people...it has all been there in text for a very, very long time and no one needs to be a scholar to read it.

     

    Can you explain to me what's that concept "hell"?

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    59 minutes ago, old3bob said:

     

    umm, that sounds nice but Jesus also said I do nothing except by the Father, so sounds like two in one which is not one in one... Also Samuel and Saul were both Jews or Hebrews and not enemies' like those that the Jewish God ordered wiped out here and there in the O.T.

     

    In Hinduism there is no eternal hell as often stated in the Bible along with lots of other differences so trying to equate or rationalize them together is still trying to mix water and oil.

    1.You're replying without even having read my posts properly.

    2. Your lack of knowledge of the bible with statements like: "eternal hell as often stated in the bible" is evident.

    3. What's the point of defending ideas so vehemently if you never gave them proper thought and study?

     

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    10 hours ago, old3bob said:

     

    why do say most actions by Jesus were only symbolic?  As i see it most of his actions were down to the brass tacks and the nitty gritty,

    no wishy washy or half guessing it.  Granted there were a lot of metaphor type stories but I wouldn't equate such with just debatable symbolism.

     

    I have never said that most actions by Jesus were "only symbolic". I don't know how you interpret the word symbolic old3bob but to me symbolic isn't something inferior or less real. Take for example the time he kicked the sellers out of the temple... If you point the finger outside you'll think " he did the right thing chasing those sellers outside of the temple". If you notice the symbolism of the action and point the finger to yourself you'll think " I do understand that I am God's temple so I should clean it before Jesus does".

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    18 minutes ago, old3bob said:

     

    Throwing the baby out with the bathwater does matter...thus throwing out possible pointers to that which is beyond pointers is no better...

     

    What matters is the teaching delivered with words and symbolic actions, most actions performed by "Jesus" were symbolic. To have a notion of their meaning one has to study the whole book. 

    Anyway, the book of Revelation speaks of a book that is sealed with seven seals. Will an intellectual or skeptical approach break any of those seven seals? Don't think so.

     

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    35 minutes ago, Maddie said:

     

    What do you base these claims on? Sources?

     

    I would say my experience of having studied the  bible for many years as well as other mythology. Anyway, the version of the bible that was my favourite was a catholic one. I remember the commentaries that served as a preface to the NT.  There it was written that the 4 gospels aren't to be taken as a biography of Jesus. The point is that not even catholic authorities interpret the text that way.

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    If Jesus lived in India or if the Buddha lived in Israel doesn't matter, never did and never will...

    Why the obsession of framing historically these...are there words to describe what they are or are not? Jesus is definately not the son of Mary as well as the Buddha is definately not Siddharta Gautama.

    IMHO the juice is in the story never in history.

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    Happy New Year, Michael 🥳

     

    If nothing goes wrong, this January, I will enter university for the first time to study Osteopathy. Feeling the luckiest man alive about it. I've already told the wife " if it happens and you find me at anytime moaning about the course just kill me because I don't deserve to be living" 😂

    Concerning practices, will try to evolve in my tai chi, yoga and meditation.

    Wishing everyone serenity and inner peace regarding what we'll probably have to face in 2024. There will be good times as well 🙂

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  17. Posted · Edited by oak

    On 13/12/2023 at 5:24 PM, Nintendao said:

    This one is sure to be unpopular 😇😈

     

    Medieval alchemists were famous for doing all kinds of weird things, like boiling vats of piss to refine phosphorous, which glows in the dark, so is of course very magical.

     

    Internal alchemists, being even more weird, huff and puff and wiggle about in a peculiar way that forces oxygen into the brain, causing them to see various lights floating around, that are of course very spiritual.

     

     

    Medievel alchemists dirtied their hands and took risks knowing that most of all their faith and serious investment would guide them to the goal. An approach rarely seen these days when people think they can buy a clean and safe path.

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    17 hours ago, liminal_luke said:

     

    A long time ago, Jane Alexander was a member here and I remember her talking about her book.  Love the title, Possessing Me.  It seems to me that that´s what good spiritual practice does -- puts us in better possession of ourselves.  

     

    I ended up buying and reading the book because you mentioned her somewhere in a thread about Bruce Frantzis (?). Anyway thanks for that liminal_luke.

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