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Is this an answer? How could you possibly know if the color is incidental or unimportant? Have you healed from serious meditators disease like Hakuin? If so, then what color did you use? If not, and you don't have any insight into the translation of the text as I've asked, then you are just wildly conjecturing on what aspects of the practice text may or may not be important. Check yourself.

What color is the cream in Hakuin’s Egg So Cream Zen Meditation? I’ve looked at different translations of this meditation, and it doesn’t specify a color, leading me to believe it was common knowledge what color the so cream was, when this was written. This is what is written in most translations regarding color: “Let him visualize placed on the crown of his head, that celestial So ointment, about as much as a duck's egg, pure in color and fragrance.” Now, at first, due do some translations calling it a ‘butter’ meditation, I imagined the ‘celestial So ointment’ as Ghee or a kind of soft golden butter color and consistency. But later, realizing that ‘butter’ might’ve been a poor translation, I pictured the ointment as pure white and with a soft, more fluid consistency of heavy whipping cream. (Which I later realized wasn’t correct, because heavy whipping cream wouldn’t ‘melt’ down the body as specified in all translations.” Be very curious if any native Japanese speaker has any insights in the original writings. Or anyone at all. The reason I bring it up: I think it makes a difference. There are distinct physiological differences that occur between sending a white cream liquid through the body and a golden one. You can test this yourself. Cheers.

Hey, I am curious if anyone from this original thread (or anyone else) has maintained the Cundi / Zhunti mantra practice? If so, would you mind sharing your experiences? This is an interesting dharma door that seems quite rare for Western native English speakers, and besides Bill Bodri's (extremely helpful) online promulgation of Nan Huai-Chin's recommendation of the mantra, it seems the only western audience this practice receives is in certain Chan schools (Master Hsuan Hua and Master Sheng Yen come to mind) where the practice seems either somewhat selective, or limited, to a degree. Though I am not yet affiliated with either of their schools so honestly I really can't say what degree Cundi is practiced. (That said, I've seen an account of the late Master Sheng Yen recommending 200,000 repetitions to a lay student in order for the student to remove obstacles to ordination...and of course it worked.) I've really just started not too long ago and my experience is echoing some of the earlier reports here, particularly physical symptoms like pains in heart region that come and go, a more compassionate attitude, the brining up of old emotional issues, some high fever episodes and the flaring of some chronic health conditions I have. It's all been very strange and encouraging, and I was hoping this online sangha had more to share on the topic. And sorry to revive an old thread, I'm new here, but I thought it made sense to keep the majority of the related information in one spot for future Cundi / Zhunti internet researchers like myself.

Hello! I'm a buddhist in the USA, still finding my path. I've studied Tibetan Buddhism the past year and now exploring Chan / Zen schools. Recently, I have begun practicing the mantra of Cundi Bodhisattva and would love to hear others experiences with this method. Cheers.