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13 minutes ago, Taomeow said:

 

From my intellect

to my big toe, a message:

The path is dark.  Ouch.  

 

The path is dark. Ouch.

I should have turned on the light.

And watched where I step.

Short answer:

Life.

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18 hours ago, dwai said:

It’s a story — I’m sure it could have been that she was a man in her previous life, and due to his insatiable lust he became a prostitute.
 

For as sure as you are regarding what “could have been,” the story is clearly written with her having been wife (i.e, woman) in her previous life.

18 hours ago, dwai said:

 

Parables are meant to express a specific kind of meaning, and not to be taken literally.

Yeah, and there is a clear warning against women expressing (perhaps even feeling) sexual desire - lest they be sold into prostitution against their will in a future life.

18 hours ago, dwai said:

 

What I got from that story was that an unfortunate woman, with the help of a spiritual master gained liberation against severe odds. And that one shouldn’t judge another based on appearances. 

 

Yes, I saw those intended points as well - which do little to negate the points I am making.

18 hours ago, dwai said:

 

But I AM sorry it affected your feelings, my friend.  

 

It affected my feelings more that you presumed to tell me first of my anachronistic interpretation (and how we “can’t” do that) and then decided to instruct me on (what the proper and not literal) understanding of the parable is - to my understanding of the words you’ve typed without any actual consideration for what I presented. (I.e. “let’s just sweep that uncomfortable observation under the rug and tidy things up in a nice little package.)

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18 hours ago, liminal_luke said:

I hate it when there´s conflict, especially between wonderful people who don´t mean to hurt each other´s feelings.  Sometimes sex discussions suck.

My feelings were not hurt until I was expected to follow a prescribed understanding instead of expressing and discussing my own understanding. Sex discussions where one perspective dominates certainly do suck imo.

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18 minutes ago, dwai said:

It’s a perspective. Can’t anachronistically apply today’s social norms on something that’s supposedly happened120 years ago. 

Yeah.. let’s leave the damnation of women over sexuality alone..

In a thread about prostitution no less.. 

:bowing out:

22 hours ago, dwai said:

That was my wife from my last life. She craved for physical relationship with many men in her last life, and she became a prostitute in this life. But, she never wanted to prostitute in this life. She was forcefully sold to this brothel by her relatives, because her destiny was such.

I don’t like this.

It still makes being sold into prostitution the fault of the individual who has been sold (owing to wickedness in a supposed past life), still denigrates the woman for being sexual and having had sexual desires (in the purported past life), and then tidily wraps it all up with such being her “destiny,” while the male protagonist of the tale is “elevated” and deemed “good” based solely on the tale he wove of her sexual wickedness in a past life he was supposedly the only one privy to knowing of, and the karma of which he (in all his piety) “saved” her from.

7 minutes ago, Timul20 said:

Thanks Ilu

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4 hours ago, Nuralshamal said:

Don't anyone feel like analysing the karmas for both the prostitute and client?

Not really. Most of the active longer term members are more interested in looking inward than outward. It seems to be a shared karmic tendency..

4 hours ago, Nuralshamal said:

Don't be shy, it's nothing about shaming, judging or telling others what to do, or what's right or wrong, it's simply a neutral, curious and intellectual analysis of the laws of the universe  what we send out we shall again receive, that's the law of karma.

Shyness would have little to nothing to do with it, although experientially derived differences in understanding of what the word karma refers to just might. 

4 hours ago, Nuralshamal said:

 

1) What caused the prostitute to become a prostitute?

2) What karma does the prostitute get from selling sexual services?

3) What karma does the people who buy sexual services from a prostitute get?

My own karmic tendencies give me enough to investigate, understand, and unravel - without having to look outward to some personally crafted ideas regarding individuals who buy or sell sex, and what would certainly amount to my personal judgements on what karma compelled them into such transaction, and what karma would/could possibly be accrued by said transactions.

Although, if you would like to discuss how wonky I feel society is regarding sex in general, I may have a bit more to say regarding “shared and inherited karma” - or not.

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