Taoist Texts

yeah but you see, then he would have to go get one of those job things as to you i am pretty sure you have powers. you just keep them secret hmm may be you wanna read up on "cults" and "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_psychogenic_illness". they know all kinds of things about stoves and stuff

But how we know which one of his miracles is legit and which one is a trick? Does he claim his tricks are legit? Who is this Zhou, i lost track?

so... if the zapper-healer-donor gives his healing qi to the patient - from where does this qi come? if it is a healing qi why it heals only certain minor diseases if at all, and not all of them? it is a healing qi how long the healing effect lasts? if it is a healing qi how come the zapper gets sick and ages himself? if it is a healing qi how come the zapper at least does not look at all healthier/younger than a regular person his age?

a samurai has no goal, only a path go on i am listening! great idea , I did, when i was writing my PHD dissertation on intl. law

well there are good news and bad news. 1. any lawyer who would take your retainer would be stringing you on because such a lawsuit is not feasible nor legally nor practically. thats good news because not getting strung is always good 2. despite agreeing with that guy about the major delusion you entertain, i support giving him a time out because he overdid it on insults. thats bad news on account of me being pro-free-speech so i feel bad

they dont. hypnosis works due to a verbal/visual cue triggering an obedience mechanism and to understand the cue the patient uses his consciousness not the subconscious. It has nothing to do with the spirit of the operator being issued into the patient as 发神 implies. moreover there is no such term аs 发神 in general chinese or in chinese MA. It sounds made up. In taoism 发神 is a spirit of the hair on the head. In general chinese there is fā shén jīng (coll.) to go crazy As to the acupuncture the needle does all the work. In MA it is peng that does all the work. And NLP is fake news. Gotta get your ducks in a row.

I do. As you see, only I had the expertise to devise a definitive test on qi vs hypnosis. Moreover I know in advance every argument and counterargument from the both parties in this debate. Frankly it is like a bunch of preschoolers debating who is stronger Magneto or Superman. My wisdom is unique in the world. I am here to save those who can be saved.

hypnosis is very easy to distinguish from "real qi. Because hypnosis is based on an verbal and visual suggestion. All it takes is for a self-proclaimed qi zapper to silently lay "hands on an unbiased test subject from behind, without any warning, and try to zapp him. Of course it would not work. And of course the zappers would never agree to such a test. Because it will reveal their zapping to be a self induced feeling by the patient not some kind of a miracle qi transfer. Quite boring actually. But it is quite funny when simpletons get all cultish about an ordinary parlor trick like this. When they pay thousands of bucks for it it is even funnier.

trust the science (c)

what is going on with any kind of laying of hands is that 10% of humans atavistically feel and do what they are signaled by the leader. Its a survival mechanism hard-wired in the reptilian brain: a strong external signal from the leader switches off the individual volition. A flock of animals following the flock leader has a much higher chance of survival than a flock where every individual decides for himself. No neigong is necessary for an individual to experience a shock, as on the vid, note that the pastor has to physically touch the faithful to trigger the mechanism. They are been told that they will fall - they fall; if they would have been told they would get a healing electric shock - they would feel a a healing electric shock. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slain_in_the_Spirit

look man if you are so worked about the poor old me all you have to do is to start a thread on me and go full third degree. i promise to answer to the best of my ability, cross my heart. in the meantime can we please not to harsh everybody's mellow here? peace man

look amigo, i hate to break it to you but you are not the boss of me. my missus is. you addressed me first on this thread. i only reply because i was not raised in a barn. its a curse, i tell ya. your zeal rubs me the right way so gladly: the results i guarantee is that i explain the workings of the universe with all and any spiritual teachings in it via alchemy, according to...(drum roll)...taoist texts. Or your money back. Thats it. You see i am very comfortably retired for 20 years now. I dont need your money, it being just a courtesy. Hence i dont need to make clownish claims, as opposed to the shameless "teachers' who are greedy for your money. hehe no, thank you, i will not be baited into harassing a forumer. Do you see me questioning the guy who directs hurricanes with his magic? No, despite that being so much more thrilling than puny zapping. Now when you can knock a galaxy from its axis come back and let me know. Seriously though: i dont ask questions of the hurricane wizard or the zapping maestro because i know every word they say in advance. Seriously, i do. I admit i am guilty of occasionally cracking a good-natured joke at their expense. dont you mean ion machines fulminating? hehe;)

we are no fellows. when i take money i guarantee exact results. words do not prove anything so no, not really quaking in my boots. Please understand that on the interwebs there are different people claiming to change weather, to shoot laser beams out of their eyes; to be inheritors to a million year old "traditions"; to throw people at a mere touch; to have a third eye; to see spirits; and so on and so forth. Who heard one of them - heard them all. Zapping ppl is just wednesday on their planet. I saw thousands of them. All boring. But thanks.

hmm so you cannot answer a very simple question. are you sure you know who is an expert and who is not? i am disappointed amigo. not at you but with you. as to the Mr small fantasy i dont have to waste his very pricey time. its all here: https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/52990-feedback-about-小梦想s-neigong-seminar/ no results. and no, "feeling warm" or "my health is improving" is not a result.

ah you know me, i will jump at the chance. thank you muchly. but what does constitute "work" in your understanding? for me "work" means results so what are your results exactly? a random person would not. but someone who was promised a superpower of electrical zapping, wasted a lot of time and money on it, and did not get it - such person just might. if he is angry enough. and promises of superpowers do attract seriously angry persons. so it is a legit concern in that line of business. some such entrepreneurs think ahead, you know.

ion machines are electrical, now he zaps peeps with electricity......hmm coincidence? i think not!

great question. 150 years is not enough time for the Confucianism to spread all over china so whoever copied this text was not a Confucian in a sense of a formal offical scholar. However, Guodian was composed by "Lao-zi" whose student Confucius himself was. So in that sense yes Guodian is a Confucian text because Confucianism is "Laoism". Or conversely Lao-zi was the first Confucian before Confucius . You get my drift?

thanks Cobie. As i am sure you know this quote above reflects the hilariously ignorant notion that 道家 were some kind of rational philosophers. They were not as this quote below proves: 《道虛 - Daoxu》

he he, no absolutely not. daoism is about survival.

ok now, friend, it goes like this: either you are grateful for yourself OR you are caring for someone. You have to chose. If you you care for them then you would be ungrateful for you being you. It is a very simple choice. Either grateful for you being you OR care for someone else. Thats the suggestion: gratitude and care are incompatible. A man gotta chose what he gotta chose. Either your life-long happiness or their momentary satisfaction. Choose now.

thats great but what do these terms mean according to him?

i personally object to such subforum because of this kind of topics. if you still greenlight it, can it at least be hidden like other sensitive subforums?

with due deference to @Cobie, this is the most fun topic for me personally so i will jump in. this is a great pdf for beginners but has its own share of naive errors. Eg there is no such thing as daoist or buddhist or confucian or alchemy quigongs because quigong is a modern health practice while those teachings are not. of course, because no tradition withstands pop-commercialization defo, because such alchemy starts from around 600 AD before because they are mentioned in Zhuang which is roughly contemporaneous with TTC. because there is none of health cult in it first of all there is no separate classic daoist lit and some kind of other classic lit. because they were all one tradition eg TTC and ZZ were compiled by confucians. Second if by cultivation you mean Yangsheng as some kind of health practice then there is none because the ancient writers a bigger fish to fry. If by cultivation you mean salvation then all of the classic lit is about it. Pretty fun and clear, no? the one and only https://ctext.org/dao-de-jing/ens

i dont make hilarious claims as such unless you can provide a direct quote by someone from millennia ago e.g. 'Hi my name is Plato and i am an atheist'....your claim is just hilarious. And it is hilarious because it parrots the modern atheist propaganda... a 300 year old pretty recent trick, not aging well

no, it has not nobody called himself an atheist before that