Taoist Texts

Ah, is that what is says now? You know, there are 2 english idioms 'shoot oneself in the foot' and 'shoot fish in a barrel'. Now metaphorically your both feet are like fish in a barrel and you shoot yourself in them over and over. Thats what you did when you posted this paragraph. Here Ge says that there are persons endowed with inborn knowledge of it (alchemy). From this follows that such persons do not need no teacher nor books. That makes your statement a mis-truth. Check and Mate. ...gosh, this is boring.

Ugh, i am just messing with you, kinda gets boring too. So what this passage say in one sentence?

Oooh Gehong...this is serious. Now we are talking.

Yes. Thats exactly what happened. To you. hahah)

You can copy and paste your out of context translation a million times, it still would be wrong. Give it up, i warned you nicely at the start that you and your whole school is no match for me in a debate. You should have listened:)

You do not answer question because this quote above refers to a BOOK and now you know it because i pointed out it to , so you still got your freebie lol...but at a price lol See what your check got you? A CHECK-MATE for you. Haaahaha;))))

No its what you say it sais 不可 is NOT impossible.

A minute? you practically live here, when do you practice? Sigh...look whom i am asking...

Hahhahaah;) these people always always shoot themselves in the foot.

難 nán 〈形〉 (1) (形声。从隹( zhuī)?声。从隹,与鸟有关。①本义:支翅鸟。②假借为困难) (2) 困难;艰难;不容易 [difficult;hard;troublesome] 非为织作迟,君家妇难为。——《玉台新咏·古诗为焦仲卿妻作》 蜀道之难,难于上青天。—— 李白《蜀道难》 (3) 又如:难句(难得的佳句);难老(难于衰老);难行(难于施行;不容易走);难治(不容易治理);难航(不易舟行);难期(难及,难于企及);难义(不易索解的辞旨);难极(不易穷尽);难疑(相互讨论不易索解,心存迷惑的要义);难乎为继(指前人做得太好,不易照样继续下去) (4) 不可;不好 [hardly possible;bad] 桓谭作论,明弱水之难航。—— 汉· 王褒《灵坛碑文》 We see, we are not blind. Hardly possible is NOT impossible. Do you want me to make the font even larger for you?

金丹大藥，古人以萬劫一傳。玉筍靈篇，學者之十迷九八，聖師口口，歷代心心，若非心傳口授，縱使三傑之才，十哲之智，百端揣度，亦終不能下手，結就聖胎矣。所謂：饒君聰慧過顏閔，不遇明師莫強猜，只為金丹無口訣，教君何處結靈胎。劉海蟾詩日：此道迥昭彰，如何亂揣量。金丹之道，若不遇真師，實難知之矣。 Wise Teachers trasmitted from mouth to mouth (verbally), for centures, from heart to heart. If you have no heart transmission and verbal teaching - then even if you are talented as 3 heroes and smart as 10 sages and know everything - you as well would not be able to start the practice, create and complete spiritual fetus. 玉筍靈篇 this is not in your translation. Why and what does it mean?

hahaha;) these guys are the funniest)

You guys play nice here, think what 玉筍靈篇 is while i go do a round of taicheee

Thank you for very helpfully highlighting what you make up and what is not in the text. hehe) 玉筍靈篇 what is this?

Yes, also this is just plain silly. Neidan or daoism is about getting yangshen. what on earth could trigrams do with it?

Some people want free lessons because their teachers have not teach them anything, despite all the money they took. So now they wander around on the internet begging for freebies.

You keep begging for freebie lessons. No go. You have to pay tuition like everybody else. Look at these fellas always trying to get away with something. No way Hosay.

You are welcome to stay away from my thread ( hint hint) Thats very good. 8 are not so bright, they need a teacher. But what true teacher will take dim students? And how can dim students be successful? But 1 is a real genius, he does not need teachers. A genius like myself. So you just proved yourself incorrect saying that learning on ones own or from a book is impossible for everybody. Good job AA. No, this is wrong 難 difficult; hard 為人父母很難。 / 为人父母很难。 ― Wéirén fùmǔ hěn nán. ― it is difficult being a parent. 這項工作非常難。 / 这项工作非常难。 ― Zhè xiàng gōngzuò fēicháng nán. ― This job is very hard. Nan is not impossible, it is hard. Can you see the difference? It is truly hard, Which is the way it should be. Hard but quite possible. So you are incorrect on two counts: translation and understanding. Have a better luck in the next life AA!

You just admitted you got nothing:)

LOL, these people have no clue;) Religions of the World: A Comprehensive Encyclopedia of Beliefs and ... https://books.google.ru/books?isbn=1598842048 J. Gordon Melton, ‎Martin Baumann - 2010 - ‎Religion The Chinese Daoist Association (CDA) is the government organization that regulates Daoism in the People's Republic of China (PRC). Based in Beijing's ... China's Governance Model: Flexibility and Durability of Pragmatic ... https://books.google.ru/books?isbn=1317859529 Hongyi Lai - 2016 - ‎Political Science Coopting the established religions into official associations The five religions ... the Chinese Buddhist Association (CBA); the Chinese Daoist Association (CDA); ... The Crisis of Global Modernity - Page 44 - Google Books Result https://books.google.ru/books?isbn=1107082250 Prasenjit Duara - 2014 - ‎Business & Economics ... secular organization committed to assisting religions develop environmental programs, and the Chinese Daoist Association (CDA) (Zhongguo daojiao xiehui). Handbook of Research on Development and Religion https://books.google.ru/books?isbn=0857933574 Matthew Clarke - 2013 - ‎Religion Daoists are initiated into a tradition by a master, receiving sacred texts and ... single organizational framework, known as the Chinese Daoist Association (CDA). The Way of Complete Perfection: A Quanzhen Daoist Anthology https://books.google.ru/books?isbn=1438446519 Louis Komjathy - 2013 - ‎History A Quanzhen Daoist Anthology Louis Komjathy ... the Chinese Daoist Association (CDA/CTA), which, it should be recognized, is primarily a political organization. Introducing Daoism - Page 247 - Google Books Result https://books.google.ru/books?isbn=0980163323 Livia Kohn - 2009 - ‎Religion ... institution for Daoist research in France Chan (Zen) Buddhism — Chinese ... Six Healing Sounds Chinese Daoist Association (CDA) — Official body of Daoist ... Religion Under Socialism in China - Page xxiii - Google Books Result https://books.google.ru/books?isbn=0873326091 Zhufeng Luo - 1991 - ‎Political Science ... CBA — Chinese Buddhist Association CCP — Chinese Communist Party CCPA — Chinese Catholic Patriotic Association CDA — Chinese Daoist Association ... Daoism and Development | James Miller 苗建時 www.jamesmiller.ca/daoism-and-development/ Daoism, also spelled Taoism, is China's organized, indigenous religious system. ... organizational framework, known as the Chinese Daoist Association (CDA).You visited this page on 12/9/16. ARC - Faiths and ecology - Daoist eco-news www.arcworld.org › Faiths and Ecology › Daoism January 29, 2014, Daoist and Buddhist leaders promote eco-friendly incense for ... Master Ren Farong is the President of the China Daoist Association (CDA). https://www.google.ru/search?q=CDA&oq=CDA&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.2104j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#newwindow=1&q=CDA+chinese+daoist+association&nfpr=1 Have a nice sitting in a poodle, mister, LOL

And to steal chinese heritage while claiming that. But thats what they do, thats what they come for. The horseman serves the horse, The neat-herd serves the neat, The merchant serves the purse, The eater serves his meat; 'Tis the day of the chattel, Web to weave, and corn to grind, Things are in the saddle, And ride mankind.

Oh he is just insulting myself and Awaken:) Ironically he is ignorant of the plural being ignoramuses.

I do not sure who you are addressing but your lengthy post above is just a spam. There is 2 reasons why you leave the paragraphs above untranslated , giving a false interpretation instead. A. In your ignorance you do not know how to translate properly. B. If translated fully - the falsity of your views will be obvious. It is very easy to prove What is 學者之十迷九八? What is 實難知之矣。?

Sigh. Chinese people use characters they do not use latin acronims, thus there are no official ones. https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%B8%AD%E5%9B%BD%E9%81%93%E6%95%99%E5%8D%8F%E4%BC%9A as on this wikipage. Apparently you imply that your certificate was granted before falun. Well then now it is revoked and invalid then. Saying that WLP IS recognized is incorrect. Can you provide any proof that WLP was recognized before falun? Let me guess. No , you can not.

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