Taoist Texts

yes 神通 shéntōng is the standart translation of siddhi in neidan and general medieval daoism. It literally means spiritual 神 achievement, therefore siddhis are not physical and are not provable objectively. Which is a good thing because if spiritual phenomena were physical there would be no spiritual world where we could save ourselves from the physical decay. no i dont claim enlightenment. i was talking about intellectual understanding of these issues. i heard that nothing happens without power no rest for the wicked

i know. like i just said, that is what the western amateurs keep claiming, angrily. that will require a long thoughtful discussion. i am not sure you need that. so instead i will refer you to the highest authority: Apech told it best: enlightenment is the aim AND it is a siddhi. But ppl do not put 2 and 2 together: that those smaller siddhis are just the facets and the stepping stones of the great one. Of course it is unprovable, only realized on one's own like i did, so thats that;) bossy and angry;). both liver issues caused by wrong neigong.

无为而成 without any effort, it accomplishes its ends.无为而物成，是天道也 making (all) things complete without doing anything - that is the way of Heaven.

literally every one. in each and everyone one of siddhi are not a by-product "not to be dwelt on much" lol. they are the ultimate goal. Hindu and Jain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siddha buddhism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abhijñā conf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_esotericism#Confucianism taoism https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.13173/zeitdeutmorggese.160.1.0121 you guys are killing me. softly heh.;)

my special interest is to see how every concept in a traditional eastern teaching gets flipped on its head in the west, so it becomes a 180 degree opposite of itself in the original teaching the siddhis are an all important end in themselves. in the western imitation they are pooh-poohed. this flip is mildly fascinating to observe.

by now i am quite sure you do not know what proof is if you intend to continue with pointless questions please be attentive. i never wrote neigong which is a modern marketing invention. i wrote neidan meaning a real thing. I will not answer in this thread. Either PM or start a separate thread. above i said that neigong is harmful. this is the proof: it results in anger and coprolalia . you guys use forceful impure intent which hurts the liver causing fire-anger. in turn the anger uplifts the qi from the excretory organs into the head causing coprolalia. I dont mind you insulting me but if i were you i would stop harming your liver

i keep replying to you because you make me laugh: i do not believe in things. either i know or i dont. i know i can, i know i did, i know there is no other way, i know nobody else did, particularly with a teacher. gosh after all these years whenever somebody touts a teacher it still cracks me up. thanks for the chuckle amigo. because it is harmful. same as any other commercial "neigong" out there. you keep asking these absurd questions: why dont i try this or that seminar-peddler. to make your questions less absurd you should lead with: "i know from my own personal experience such and such system will do this exact good. " otherwise you might be pushing innocent folk into scams and thats not good for your karma.

this is one of those metaphors which i thought do not happen literally https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/dick-measuring_contest apparently the logic here is: a human body can do a totally unrelated trick ERGO it can shoot healing electricity.

i studied from books. may i ask again what is the purpose of your continuous inquiry?;)

oh so you dont know yourself . you just repeat whatever they say to sell seminars. good for you. "neidan"

how do you know that he can?

this is a strange recommendation on so many levels sigh... amigo, i am a teacher. yes i do. why do you ask?

When I was in acupuncture school it was basically like the Dao bums in real life, .... several of them "demonstrated" their siddhis. It was always quite underwhelming exactly. most of us go to a professional school to learn a trade so we can pay for groceries. but the lucky few of adults go to a school because they are children at heart. they crave to be encouraged, to be reprimanded, to be guided by teachers, and of course - to learn magic. Prof schools being too boring, they enroll in make-believe magic schools. Who has the heart to tell them that childhood is over? not me. not before Christmas. if you do meditation on agna chakra within 7 to 10 years you will develop clairvoyance. i was always wondering where this strange amount of years in make-believe schools comes from. it is always between 7 and 10. why not say 6 or 15? Today it dawned on me whoa dude! Thats the number of grades in the real grade schools! https://fictionhorizon.com/how-many-years-are-there-at-hogwarts/ Not going to directly reply to this guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Press_F_to_pay_respects

siddhis are not a byproduct . they are the goal. siddhis do not exist in the physical external world. they are internal subjective phenomena in and of the practitioner's consciousness. whoever believes in external siddhis is naive. whoever claims to sell external siddhis is selling a bill of goods.

it is the same guy who denies you your opinion. interesting thing is that there are many vocal people who worship the digital dead AND deny you your opinion. thats a whole new level of crazy. Also, you know who was denied an opinion? Slaves were. No opinion for them slaves. Slaves to who? Why, to the digital dead of course. Thats why these are the end times. Thanks for the antidote btw @wandelaar lol.

Yes, Virginia

strangely enough it did not start in the period of the rise of Confucianism. probably they needed 1200 years to figure out the connection

depends on how old is whom you ask. same as "Is There a Santa Claus?"

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it predates Confucianism coming from "The Classic of Rites" so it was always there as a key virtue just not codified as one of 4 keywords. In the Song dynasty there was a major Confucian resurgence against the buddhist  excesses so the confucians turned to their roots, reformulating the 4 principles to include 節; jié "the chaste moderation"

sure. as usual with the chinese, it is convoluted the initial idea of 4 virtues different from the later 四字 is some 1500 years later those morphed into current 四字 in a Song dynasty book then it was codified again in an immensely popular fantasy book of Ming dynasty

these views do not come from any perspective. the perspectives and the views come from the inner objective certainty of an individual: "i know that i have lived before, i know that i am going to live after. i may not remember the exact details but i just know it." apparently you think that these are mutually exclusive. but ppl did not want just continuation of life, historically people were certain that the life will continue in a better or a worse rebirth. continuation per se was not an issue. what they wanted was a better continuation, a better rebirth. And enlightenment is just the best one of all the possible better rebirths.

xing is nature in a sense of a characteristic of an object; this thread is a about nature in a sense of a changing physical--biological universe - there is no exact single world for the latter, nor a combined notion for it in chinese no he does a fine job. he does not conflate world-nature with object-nature or man-nature. he checked in on this forum long time ago btw in china it started in the Conf's time hence he had to do https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rectification_of_names in europe it started with christianity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credo_quia_absurdum of course there can. screw the world, you are the decider whats wrong and whats right there are shades of gray sure dualism is the cure not the disease

i cherry pick english dictionaries;) so the dictionary says that ethics morality virtue are one and the same thing. but westerners make up a distinction between them denying morality. it is because by now in the west words have no meaning in general. its called post-modernism. a more specific reason to deny morality is its extinction in the west. "we dont judge over here. ok?"