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Not QUITE, I lost a loved one to 'the worm' and I'm trying, with everything I have, to help her see what has been done in hopes that she can heal herself, she is very smart but has been harmed in a serious way, a way that influences her opinions (this is why I used the word 'deluded' earlier). I know exactly what is going on, and the information which follows is a compilation of unrelated information, little truths, which when combined, are another lie.

Sorry, now you are lying, one person in the San Diego seminar, a big guy, fell to the floor with a big thud, someone else was there on the floor in a fetal position. Are they under control? The only thing that's out of context is they don't think it's a problem, I do.

No the story all by itself isn't reason to believe anything, but you add it to the other parts and it creates a big aha moment.

The proof of shocking is in how some of them move around uncontrollably after getting a transmission, and how sometimes core values surface in their minds in a threatening or traumatic manner, sorry if I didn't make that clear enough, I pointed out how this head contact and resulting uncontrollable movement are the result of a martial technique and it isn't used for cultivation. That proof is in the advertising video of Max doing transmissions. Others describe the implantation, but there is also this: the person who lived a few hundred years ago in China, who had the same name as max now has for his Chinese name, was dangerous enough to have a warning about his reappearance passed down for hundreds of years. This person used 'otherworldly' powers to move people against their will, he used it to create puppets and to control people, and this is what Max has said, that when someone receives a transmission from him that they are under his control.

Thanks five element, very good points, but no, not quite a coyote, as I try to not lie. This manner of my writing, coyote like, is because I'm in an environment here where there are hostile and friendly forces, it requires a delicate touch I think. With my students I'm pretty darn simple and straightforward and I teach in the traditional manner which I described earlier. I don't say much, I let them make discoveries on their own. Why do I want to expose Max? I want to warn people to watch out. Because it's personal now. Maybe because I feel a friend was harmed and I regret my failure earlier and that hurts. I will explain this in my next post which is about transmissions, the big 'facts' thing that people are clamoring for. Then you will understand why I'm expending the energy. Ethical or not, I can't say for sure. I feel hurt and I want to lash out, that's all. I think I'm using remarkable restraint considering my nature. As you say though, there is some kind of implicit agreement, conscious or unconscious, and I'm glad you said that as it does help. I think I'll need to hear that many times to heal. I'll just start repeating it to myself. I truly hope to drop it then and lo and behold, I'm returning to the mountains Monday. Maybe I'll feel better and be able to save my energy. After working outdoors like I have been so much, when I'm home for a day I like to just sit here in front of the puter. What is it that you teach, my friend? Is it odd to know we have some similarities? Here's another one I didn't realize until just two days ago. When I was a young boy, around six to eight, I was electrocuted on the crown point, I was knocked unconscious but recovered just as I hit the ground. If I was 'poetic' I cold say my crown point was fused open, OK, a couple of brothers in crime perhaps. There is something written in the records of the ancients though: If a person has their third eye open more than their crown point - danger.

Max is also a sorcerer, clearly, and I think he's more powerful than I am. I'm advertising in a way, yes, but I don't want very many people to train with me, just a few, very few, and I'm in no hurry. It's a real catch 22 situation for me. i think this path is so great and want to share it with everyone and think everyone should do it BUT the reality of it is that we give away our own energy to aid the student and most of the practitioners will not teach at all because of that, they don't want to give their energy away, they want to keep it for themselves. ... and so this brings us to some information I have on transmissions and energy work, since people are clamoring for facts rather than opinions. Fiveelement, some of your observations were very good. However you say my claims are unsubstantiated, but you know, there are other people who have taken kunlun from other teachers and they have information to share, and they have shared it with me, and I can now make some comparisons between teachers, I know many teachers and I have a feeling for what is right. I think there is something else though that makes me like Max, I like to write in a way that confuses some people and not others, so sue me. I'm complex, get over it. Maybe you're just upset because i wont tell you what Max said about his transmissions =) Waitaminute, waitaminute, you can say you have the tai chi bug, that's one thing, but what about "I caught the tai chi worm". People don't use worm in the same manner. Still, the point is mooting at me.

Good point, thank you for the correction. Thank you for the clarification. I was combining your post with Scott's, which stated there is something planted which stays in people and I thought you both were referring to the same thing. The sensitivity people have to things varies greatly. People who are very yin can have wild reactions to being given some extra chi while those who are very yang might not feel a thing.

Dear Dragon who guards the way, thank you for your definition of worm. However I believe when it is said by someone referring to an internal condition like: "I've got a worm in me" it's got to mean something like a parasite. That's just the common (and unconscious) usage.

Here's another video from the movie Himalaya. That was a great movie, of love and of tragedy, I recommend it to all, and the soundtrack is fantastic, I bought the CD.

Thanks, I will try harder to do that.

Quite an imagination, yes? I will write some truth now, naked truth. Which, if Little one is watching, also refers to the path of the sorcerer.

Thanks mythmaker. I did make a video of myself doing some Chen style Tai Chi but um, I need to do a lot of apologizing for it The Tai Chi I studied for many years is Yang style, but we learned the 'internal' to such an extent that the Chen flavor (which expresses a more internal aspect of the flavor) began to express itself more and more in my Yang style. Luckily I was able to study Chen style with Master Gao Fu for six months, and then I dropped out due to a knee injury, then six months later I went back for about four months, and then she went back to china and passed away. So I didn't get a lot of instruction. I LOVE Chen style, and was so lucky to have learned it from such a good person with such a grasp on the internal. Such a sweet little old lady she was, but man! she could really do a fajin! She was a very thorough teacher, she would teach a move in great depth and then she would stand there, right in front of you, and watch you like a hawk while you did it, and she would point out any infinitesimally small error. Well, I'm here to brag, I got to a point where she would frequently not correct me even though she corrected everyone else, I'm not sure why. Anyway, this video I have is NOT technically correct Chen. I changed the stepping pattern frequently to stay in front of the camera, I only learned 1/3 of the short form, so it is but a piece of the form, and there is one move that i do way wrong, and I know it's wrong, and I did it because I thought it was cool. It also includes a dog walking around and me scratching my nose during part of the form. So enough apologies, what the video shows, hopefully is my flavor of flowing and fajin, and that is all, my flavor. It's on youtube but has a 'hidden' name. I was in the mountains and I made a video of myself doing chi kung, spontaneous chi kung, yanf style, chen style, and yang style broadsword. Now I just have to see if I can figure out how to get the video onto my computer, because it appears to not be working right now. Also I was thinking of making some brief videos that show pieces of my chi kung system and numbering then with a number system that goes from one to ten thousand =) OK, so here's the video =) remember, I only learned it for ten months, then didn't practice much for a couple of years, then made the video. I can see it has a lot of mistake and I feel I have improved in many areas so please just hopefully enjoy the flowing and the nice music. The first part shows more fajin and the second part shows more of the flowing flavor.

Thank you, Little 1, also, please say a prayer of protection for all concerned.

I think the best thing to do here, to discuss kunlun, is just to discuss things that are already rather well known by most and just do a little adding of 2 + 2. I will also add some things, maybe later, that discuss less well known things, but things that are still in the literature of the ancients and that some of you know, either as facts, or in your soul. I spoke of people as victims and as being poisoned earlier, I see it is called the kunlun worm. I never heard of the kunlun worm until I started this thread, and that, Little 1, refers to something that happens to people with a wide open crown point (which is also a prime part of the my path of the sorcerer) and that is that sometimes if you want to know something it just falls in your lap. Let me say, to start with, that since I am aware of the nature of the kunlun worm, that those who have been seeded with it will have difficulty accepting this, but anyway, here goes. Cat, I hope this reaches you with an open mind, and please tell me, on what part of your body did Max touch you and what was your experience of it briefly. There isn't a kunlun worm inside of us. But there is a constant sensation of the transmission energy. Is there an off switch for it? Maybe not...so people should make the right choice when deciding if they want to practice this. So here we see that those who have received a transmission report being inoculated with something. Something that is there to stay, Something embedded deep in their soul, something they probably can't get rid of it even if they wanted too. Is that something you all signed up for? What exactly is the nature of this worm? I'm sure many have sung it's praises, because that's one of the things the worm just makes you want to do. However, students of the English language will tell you about the way people subconsciously use language. People will tell you many things that come from their subconscious with out being consciously aware of it and so it is with the word 'worm'. WORM, when it refers to something that is inside you, ALWAYS refers to a parasite, always. So while the eager student was receiving their energy shock they had a parasite installed. Many people will tell you that unauthorised energy work of any kind is like rape, and so this is serious. I DIDN'T SAY IT, I just interpreted what students report freely. In the energy healing posts that Stig and I wrote we spoke of voluntary and involuntary energy work, but for those that can read between the lines, we were also speaking about the energies of transmission. They pick up a piece of whoever it is that just delivered that energy shock their brain. The question we all need to ask ourselves now is, who installed what. Was it done by a god, was it done by a divine messenger, was it done by a crafty coyote, or was it done by a demon? Or is the truth somewhere in between. AND is this a chance YOU want to take? Lets call the worm a name, Lets call it the worm of love and affection, that will put a nice spin on it - for now Keep in mind, that not only do no other kunlun teachers do such a thing, but no chi kung teacher does it.

Here's a post I wrote in the 'Traditional versus modern' thread.

Interesting you say that when Ian points out that almost every post of mine is an advertisement. I have described bits and pieces of the path in most posts here, including the ones about energy healing. I write this way so that people with different perceptions see different things. How carefully do people read between the lines? How much do they care and how much do they have invested. Well this is going to sound corny, but what motivates me the most is I like justice and I want people to be free. And yes, all this, including the link to the description of climbing in the mountains, and everything else I write, is me baring my soul. ... and speaking of souls, have we ever got a show for you people =) Also, I wrote some descriptions in some other threads, which I will look for now.

Some of them

Check my post #37 in this thread, and #33 refers to it a bit too. There have also been a few other ofhand references to it. If you mean you want me to describe some of the results of the practice I may be able to do that, if I can figure out how to get around the tower of the spirit =) I think it's only oral, and that is a problem. I did say he was a nice person with good intentions, but like Stig pointed out 'good' can be a slippery thing .. AND, concerning open, we are all aware of the Coyote designation and it's meaning, correct? I'm almost done packing now. I'll find this thread when I return.

Maybe that's because I'm answering posts here. No, you haven't missed anything. Yes, I thought it was very interesting. Watch out for that abyss behind you

That's right Ian, one of the big purposes of this forum is marketing, that seems to be one of it's primary uses by many. I even said it in my first post, that I would flatter him by imitation. Also I'm trying to establish some authority here so that what I have to say about Kunlun will have some clout. And you are also correct that I don't feel too strongly about Max, I hardly care any more either way but I'm not making it up. I opened this can of worms and I do feel I have a truth or two to tell about it. It takes a lot of energy and so I'll get it over with - later I also need to speak to some advisers about it but my mind is 95% made up. I would rather talk about energy healing and read Stig's link to what Hua Ching Ni said, but I get an error message and can't read it. Um yeah. I SAID there was a person who lived hundreds of years earlier with the same name. It appears that that person and Max are twins in more ways than one.