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  1. There's quite a few, new people, signing up on my forum, mentioning this thread.

     

    :)

     

    Here is the (now perm-pinned) 2 year old thread in question- examine it and draw your own conclusions.

     

    http://lonemanpai.com/thread/527/chunyi-lin-hello-everybody

     

    Drew, I have- Personally- invited you, Twice, to my forum, over the past 3 years.

     

    It is a Forum, like TaoBums- with rules and Admin- there is no collecting of private information.. everything is for Free. Most sign up on proxies with fake throwaway emails. I do not participate with any banners/click for dollars, such as Google Adsense, Amazon etc

     

    I do desire member participation, so if someone signs up- I want them to pull their weight since I am taking my personal time to help them, for Free.

     

    This is also told to new members via email confirmation upon approval.

     

    There are scores of member logs to confirm what I said, repeatedly, for the last 3+ years.

     

    Thank you for your time, everyone

     

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  2. But, I'm guessing that these armchair experts haven't actually achieved that themselves yet?  And to be clear, I mean more than just "comfortable."  I mean comfortable enough for relaxed meditation, which essentially equates to being loose enough to get into it WITHOUT USING YOUR HANDS.  Which I've only seen 2 people referenced on here able to do (out of thousands).

     

    By contrast, most other posts here on the topic describe various futile fails - numbness, strain, pain, and flat-out inability even after over a month of trying...

     

    Yet this is the norm and they are not alone.  When I first started myself, I also naively thought it might just take me a few months.  But, months became years...  And now years are becoming a decade, lol...  So, 15 years is just an extrapolated estimate. Of course YMMV, but it's not that different than how long it may take to do full splits, wheel pose, etc.

     

    There is a saying in Chinese Daoist medicine that, "Extending jin (sinews) by one inch will prolong your life by 10 years."  Well, there may be a corollary to that where, "It also takes 10 years to lengthen your sinews by 1 cun." :lol:

     

    But this is Daoism in a nutshell - deceptively simple and thus enormously easy to underestimate!  A lot of it is akin to a bubbling brook tirelessly wearing down a boulder or whittling a Redwood down with a pocketknife.  Or planting a nut tree seed and watchfully cultivating it for 15 years before you can finally enjoy its full shade and bountiful harvest then!  Whereas WEIRD culture = instant gratification FAST FOOD, Daoist culture = local, organic, SLOW FOOD.

    Well, "John Chang" was a street kid who was too poor to even attend school (p 15 & 37).  This gave him more unstructured time to practice a lot during his youth - when most WEIRDos would be locked up in classrooms.

     

    Later on, he did have a huge family, worked as a driver (for 20 years) while continuing to train himself and heal others (for free), and became destitute because his vows forbade him to directly accept any money for using his powers (p 44).  So by age 37, he had grown so desperate that he furiously prayed and his immortalized Master helped him to attain great wealth (without violating his oaths) soon thereafter.

     

    Ok, but how was he able to endure training, driving, and supporting a huge family for so long in the interim?  Good question.  Perhaps a combination of a hard Chinese work ethic, frugality, greater tolerance to "eat bitter," saintlike patience for delayed gratification, and a lower cost-of-living in Indonesia?  And his family also obviously suffered along with him, too...

     

    Full Lotus- No Hands...

     

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  3. The TTB's turned me on to Pine Pollen years ago.  I bought this https://www.etsy.com/listing/252925448/pine-pollen-tincture-wild-harvested-from Pine Pollen Tincture on Etsy (on my 3rd bottle).   Not cheap at $40, but it lasts a few months and its the only supplement where I see results.   At North of 50, taking it, I usually wake up a bit.. tented.  So its definitely works some mojo on my yang hormonal systems.   

     

    From the same company I've bought there cheaper tumeric and ginger tincture and a wellness tincture called Perpetual Youth Tincture w/ -Reishi, Astralagus, FoTi, Schizandra, Goji and Maca- (which I rarely use, waiting til I'm feeling low).

    How well do those work?  Who knows..  its not like they give you powers or grow you another arm. 

    I haven't been sick in the past 2 years but some of that (I guess) is due to cold showers.  Sadly writing that will probably bring my long health streak to an end.   Even that is good, the body needs its seasons too. 

     

    L-Arginine/Nitric Oxide is natural Viagra

     

    I would recommend cycling off the Pine Pollen SLOWLY so you don't crash... then supplement with D-Aspartic acid

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  4.  I posted on Tao Bums about Pine Pollen, awhile back, and some of you said it worked for you

     

    Here is another natural Jing Booster for those who are "older"

     

     

    I have discussed this on my forum also:

     

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    D-Aspartic acid and Testosterone

    D-Aspartic acid (or DAA) is an amino acid, naturally produced by your body and found in your nervous and endocrine systems.

    The endocrine system is the name given to the glands that produce hormones and regulate our metabolism, sexual and reproductive functions, physical development, moods, sleep and more. It’s very important to us on a host of levels.

    Studies have shown that DAA is concentrated in the glands responsible for sexual functioning, namely the testes, pineal and pituitary glands in men. It has been shown to play an important role in the release of hormones (testosterone in particular), because it is responsible for triggering the release of Luteinizing hormone which in turn prompts the testes to produce and release free testosterone.

    D’Aniello, A. (2007). D-Aspartic acid: an endogenous amino acid with an important neuroendocrine role
    Why does D-Aspartic acid encourage testosterone and Free Testosterone Production?

    First of all a bit of back history on this subject. Whilst the role DAA played in the release of testosterone had been established using studies based on the reaction of lab rats, there was no real evidence that the same effects would necessarily occur within the human body.
    Clinical Studies

    We now look at the four main clinical studies on the effects D-Aspartic acid supplements have on testosterone levels, working upwards in chronological order;
    Study 1: The Topo et al Study (2009)

    Researchers: Enza Topo, Andrea Soricelli, Antimo D’Aniello, Salvatore Ronsini, and Gemma D’Aniello

    Title: The role and molecular mechanism of D-aspartic acid in the release and synthesis of LH and testosterone in humans and rats

    Sponsor: Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, and Reproductive Medicine (IVF Unit), Hospital ‘S. Luca’, Vallo della Lucania, Italy

    Read More: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2774316/

    In 2009 a clinical study by Topo et al was the first to be done on both human and rats. The study’s principle aim which involved human participants was designed to establish the effect DAA had on the release of Luteinizing hormone and therefore free testosterone.

    If you feel inclined you can read more about the study here Âť www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2774316/ but suffice to say the results were astonishingly positive about the effects DAA had on testosterone release. So much so, in fact, that a whole new industry exploded on the back of them.

    Testosterone is always big news in the supplements market, suddenly D-Aspartic acid was big news too. Some quotes from the paper;
    1. Concerning the LH pattern, the results demonstrated that after 12 days of D-Asp treatment, 20 out of 23 (87%) participants had significantly increased concentrations of LH in their blood with respect to basal values (the value of LH found in the same subjects before starting treatment). Statistical analysis demonstrated that the value (mean Âą SEM) of serum calculated for all the 23 subjects treated with D-Asp increased by 33.3%
    2. Concerning the effect of D-Asp on the induction of testosterone release, after 12 days of D-Asp treatment, the levels of testosterone in the serum of the participants were significantly increased compared with basal levels. Out of 23 participants, 20 had increased testosterone.

    So suddenly it was crucial to have D-Aspartic acid in anything related to testo boosting and supplement providers were adding it to both boosters as well as selling pure DAA alone.
    Comment about the Topo et al study

    This was a properly conducted clinical study supported by the Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, and Reproductive Medicine (IVF Unit), Hospital ‘S. Luca’, Vallo della Lucania, Italy. It was conducted by five academics with no commercial conflicts of interest that could have led to bias in the results.

    In other words: they were qualified to run this trial, did so using proper clinical techniques, and were impartial.
    Study 2: The Willoubhy et al Study (2014)

    Researchers: Darryn S. Willoughby, Mike Spillane, and Neil Schwarz

    Title: D-Aspartic acid supplementation combined with 28 days of heavy resistance training has no effect on body composition, muscle strength, and serum hormones associated with the hypothalamo-pituitary-gonadal axis in resistance-trained men

    Sponsor: Department of Health, Exercise and Biochemical Nutrition Lab, Human Performance, and Recreation, Baylor University, Waco, TX, USA

    Read More: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3918557/

    This study aimed to disprove any relationship between D-Aspartic acid supplements and increases in testosterone levels amongst athletes who regularly trained.

    And lo and behold it did. Wouldn’t you know it? See comment below.
    Comment about the Willoubhy et al Study

    How about this for a hypothesis? “This study was conducted and led by somebody who was determined from the outset to discredit the supplements industry.”

    Let’s take a look at the opening two sentences of the write-up – you can read the full introductory paragraph using the link above, but it is an undisguised rant about the supplements industry;
    Within the nutritional/sport supplement industry there are a vast amount of products that are marketed as “testosterone boosters.” Many of these products contain a proprietary blend of various ingredients alleged to increase endogenous testosterone levels. However, in most cases there is little data, either on the complete product itself or the various active ingredients typically contained within a proprietary blend, to substantiate manufacturers’ claims

    Now – we definitely do not disagree about Mr Willoughby’s statement regarding the efficacy of ‘proprietary blends’.

    However the nature of the opening statement in conjunction with Willoughby’s personal profile leads us to suspect that while he doesn’t need to declare any conflicting interests, he is far from impartial.

    Willoughby has a staggering array of qualifications – including more degrees that a protractor. But frankly you only have to look at his profile, read his thesis subject “Comparison of Isotonic Free Weights and Omnikinetic Exercise Machines on Strength”, and study the language used in the report to suspect that he wants to support the hypothesis of this study and therefore discredit the supplements industry.

    The trouble with initiating any study with the goal of establishing a particular outcome is that if your desire is strong enough you will often find a way (consciously or subconsciously) of producing the result that you were looking for.

    Let’s have a look at the list of limitations, using extracts from the study report itself;

    We relied on participant self-report for dietary intake and supplement compliance
    It is possible that the information reported for both dietary intake and supplement ingestion does not accurately reflect what was actually consumed
    A sample size of 20 is somewhat small
    We did not assess the serum levels of any of the product’s ingredients
    We did not perform a COA in our own laboratory on the NMDA product to confirm the results of the analysis

    Hmm. Let’s concentrate on the source of the DAA used in this experiment (according to his report). If you were conducting a funded scientific study into the efficacy of a particular amino acid, would you not make sure that you were testing out a fully verified source of DAA? We would.

    Darren wouldn’t though it seems, he decided to pick a random supplement off the shelf and use that instead of ensuring that he was using a specific measurable dose of DAA.

    So actually Darren wasn’t evaluating whether DAA worked on trained athletes – he was evaluating whether this Muscle Warfare’s product worked. And as far as he could see, it didn’t. What does that tell us about the effect D-Aspartic acid has on resistance trained men? Not very much, it tells us the effect Muscle Warfare’s supplement had on resistance trained men.
    Study 3: The Melville et al Study (2015)

    Researchers: Geoffrey W Melville, Jason C Siegler and Paul WM Marshall

    Title: Three and six grams supplementation of d-aspartic acid in resistance trained men

    Sponsor: School of Science & Health, University of Western Sydney, Campbelltown Campus, Penrith 2751, NSW, Australia

    Read More: www.jissn.com/content/12/1/15

    This was a very well conducted study on the effects of D-Aspartic acid supplements on resistance trained men. The underlying background behind this study was that the researchers felt that while Topo et all had proved there were very large increases in the levels of free testosterone within a cross section of men, Willoughy et all had found it inconclusive amongst men who trained regularly (although as mentioned previously we have our reservations about that).

    Melville et al hypothesised that the results produced by Willoughby et al were not as conclusive as the results of Topo et al because the dosages in the men used to resistance training weren’t high enough.
    Comment about the Melville study

    Most people would look at the dates on research and conclude that the most recent is the most relevant. Dismiss that thought if it crossed your mind – human biology has not changed in the last 6 years.

    This is a properly conducted, and indeed approved, academic study. The big problem with is that when you look at the results they raise more questions than they answer. Drawing any concrete conclusions from it is impossible because of the wild variations across all groups – including the placebo/control group. If the placebo group had shown little or no change in the levels of free testosterone and Sex Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG) then it would give a lot more credibility to the results of the 3g and 6g groups.

    The free and total testosterone in the placebo group rocketed, whilst that of the 6 gram/day group plummeted. The question then is – why? This article isn’t the place to be delving into the why’s and wherefores of the placebo effect but when the placebo group shows such a marked improvement and all groups demonstrate an erratic and, frankly, inexplicable set of results it makes it difficult to give too much credence to the study.

    The authors themselves suggest that ‘The need for longer-duration research utilising six grams of d-aspartic acid is clear’.
    Study 4: The LaMacchia et al Study (2015)

    Researchers: Zach LaMacchia, Peter Horvath, Brian Williams

    Title: Effect of Aspartate Supplementation on Athletic Performance in Young Men

    Sponsor: University at Buffalo

    Read More: digitalcommons.brockport.edu/surc/2015/schedule/333/

    The purpose of the study was to determine the effects of athletic performance in young male athletes. Note that last word – not a randomised sample, a specific study on young athletic males. The study never used blood samples but on physical assessments – Squats and Bench Presses. The assessment was based on their physical performance after the trial. So did they perform better in the gm after taking DAA supplements?

    The results were again in favour of using D-Aspartic acid supplements to improve athletic performance, with the control group showing no improvement whilst those taking 3 grans of DAA a day showed a statistically significant improvement.

    The conclusion?: “D-aspartic acid supplementation may lead to improved acute skeletal muscle synthesis improving upper and lower body muscle performance.”
    Comment about the LaMacchia study

    The abstract notes that “Aspartate supplementation may be useful to increase testosterone for individuals with low plasma testosterone due to aging and other conditions”. Which is a fair point given the results of previous studies on DAA, but an odd one to make if you are then going to conduct a study of athletic participants with an average age of 22.
    Issues with all studies
    Experimental Period

    One of the main issues that is common to all these trials is the very short experimental period they were run over. Topo et al ran for 12 days, Melville for 14 days and the LaMacchia study for 14 days. Willoughby at least ran the trial for a around a month, with a 29 day duration.

    We’ve actually seen some of the supplement nay sayers describe the Melville study as ‘long term’. Long term? 2 weeks? This is the main issue with all of these studies, most suppliers of natural testosterone boosters would suggest that you won’t see any gains at all in the first month and that it takes time for the ingredients to build up in your system and increase the free and total levels of testosterone. This is borne out by the observations you’ll get when you read the reviews of testosterone boosting supplements that contain D-Aspartic acid – very rarely do you find any which claim they made massive gains, or felt better, or their sex lives improved within only two weeks.

    What is clear from all of the these studies, as can be seen from the control/placebo groups is that testosterone levels can be up and down like a yoyo amongst all kinds of men, whether they train or not. It seems that you don’t just have ‘your level’ that your body tends to stick to, it will vary greatly over short timeframes.
    Sample Sizes

    We appreciate that time is money, the people organising studies have a budget to work to they have to balance the books but…..the sample sizes were all pretty small in these studies too. Topo et al ran had 23 subjects on DAA and a control group of 20, so 43 in all. Willoughby 20 and Melville had 24 participants in total, split into three groups of 8. The LaMacchia study had only 9 participants in total, which is a bit of a joke really – they couldn’t even have gone outside for a game of 5 a-side at lunch time.
    Conclusion

    So…. does D-Aspartic Acid supplements help to boost your testosterone levels or not?

    Yes, is the short answer to this question. On the balance of evidence it would seem that there are more than one properly conducted research studies which demonstrate that D-Aspartic Acid plays a role in increasing free testosterone levels in both sedantry and atheletic males. The de facto study shows big gains across a wider spectrum of lifestyles, whilst the other shows gains in young athletic males.

    Counter this with a study which, despite it’s clinical authenticity, produces an inexplicable set of results which the authors themselves suggest needs further investigation, possibly by conducting a longer study.

    We would use a product that contains DAA, but we wouldn’t solely use a DAA supplement until further studies can absolutely confirm it’s clinical efficacy.

     

     

     

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    If you are 30ish years old .. this might help you :)

    Use at your own risk, as with all the other Jing Boosters I have discussed,.... such as Pine Pollen and Arginine/Nitric Oxide

     

    Also Knox Gelatin.. or any unflavoured gelatin.............*collagen, helps with joint discomfort from WeiGong and/or old age lol...

     

    *this is the active ingredient I have also discussed here - per Ox Tail Broth

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  5. Why is it often considered evil, inferior, or simply not worth it ?

     

    Do some of you know things about it ? Like different views different shcools have about it? Is becoming a ghost and unfortunate accident, or are there really people wanting to do this, practicing to reach this goal ? Etc...

     

    Western Occultism/Mysticism/Spiritism/Sorcery is different from the Eastern POV


  6. The Sequel to:

    LoneMan Pai™- Full Lotus - Instruction VIDEO
    lonemanpai.com/thread/1094/loneman-full-lotus-instruction-video
     
    The muscle gets pumped- tightens with lactic acid- blood flow

    Then stretching it during that time will cause it to be super stretched by the time the muscle returns to normal

    Applies to tendons and ligaments too
     
    Use the first video techniques with the pillows

    Slowly start pushing down on each knee to add resistance

    Then stretch immediately afterwards

    Then start using your legs for kicking- pushing the Qi down towards the feet in spiral movements

    This is why WeiGong /Waidan is pertinent to NeiGong / NeiDan

    From stretching, to martial arts, to full lotus, to internal alchemy - one interconnecting routine

    Read more: http://lonemanpai.com/thread/1218/loneman-pai-stretching-butterflies-video?page=1#ixzz3vvNQSLL8
     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuRpNAYuuKs


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    Two things: John Dijang wishes to be left alone and, as you may know, is no longer and has in truth never taught this system to westerners or Chinese, with the exception of one or two, for that matter. Secondly, the system is unsound and extremely dangerous and impossible to achieve without the constant guidance and blessing of the master. Besides, there�s no real method to it, just raw technique. It�s like going to a running coach and they just tell you, �okay go run really fast and come back in three years. We�ll see how you�ve improved.�

     

    I have been to China recently and met others like John Dijang; real immortal masters like the kind in legends. My trip and training there was and is the culmination of several years of sweat and sacrifice that , to be frank, most would be unwilling to undergo. Yes, I have found a teacher who is willing to teach real, authentic neikung and I'm starting from square one after over ten years of training in what I thought were sound practices. Turns out I would have been better off not practicing those methods at all. Ironically, students with no training or qiging background are considered lucky; they don't have bad habits from years of wrong practice.

     

    It�s just a lot of damn work you see. First you need a teacher who is willing; good luck. Then you need a teacher with the correct techniques; okay maybe. Then you need a teacher with a good method; again, good luck. Minimum four hours of training per day. And the cost; plane tickets, offerings, fees, etc... you can forget about that vacation to the Bahamas. When people see what�s really involved to actually began to have real achievement, most give up and go home.

     

     

     

    Affenbrot, It came as a shock to learn, after several years of heavy involvement with HT, that the entire system is a complete and total money scam. I was a Healing Tao instructor for a time and worked very closely with many senior instructors. I'm not asking for a debate on this issue or trying to dishearten the many sincere followers of the HT system that are members here on this forum, but what Chia is teaching has nothing and I mean nothing to do with neikung. It amounts to basic qigong, which is good for your health at best. The sexual stuff is just one of the minor Daoist teachings that leads to no achievement other than weak kidneys because it�s all taught incorrectly. I know many people who have literally ruined their health practicing this system. I was one of them. Thank God I met a real master who could fix my body. I know this is a strong statement, but it's my experience; it's very sad for me to log on here and listen to students go on about their experiences with useless practices, all the while thinking they are making progress. Talking about Kan and Li and Fusion; what a joke. These practices were completely invented by Mantak Chia and his Students, who don't even have the most basic achievement in terms of neikung.

     

    Mantak Chia's father, from what I'm told, was a sincere practitioner, but the line ended with him. You see, a real dragon is hard to meet. They don't just show up in your mail box or invite you to a weekend workshop, but the neikung they teach is the only real path to success and they can readily demonstrate that achievement so that even a child can see that it�s real. I remember the first time I was zapped by a real master using his yin yang gong; my arms contracting and moving uncontrollably, no matter how hard I resisted, as strong electricity coursed through my body. My view on neikung? Simple, there is neikung and when you experience it you have no more questions.

     

    Best, Sean

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  8. Hi all,

     

    I did some research on this after Kostas recommended the book to me. The author of he Clear Light of Bliss is currently openingly supporting the Chinese government in their efforts to destroy the Tibetan culture and render the Dali Lama powerless in Tibet. When I showed this book to a Dzogchen Lineage master, he suggested I burn it.

     

    As for the practice, it goes to level three according to Kostas. Interesting stuff.


  9. What Zhongyongdaoist said.
     
    And here's this:


    Stigmata, burn marks, blisters etc on palms are the result of Hyperemia (pooling) at the LaoGong from the Pericardium Meridian acupuncture points

    Acupuncture_Pericardium_Meridian.jpg

     

    Hyperaemia or hyperemia is the increase of blood flow to different tissues in the body. It can have medical implications, but is also a regulatory response, allowing change in blood supply to different tissues through vasodilation. Clinically, hyperaemia in tissues manifest as erythema, because of the engorgement of vessels with oxygenated blood.

     



     


  10. Yin Chi is a lousy word combo since both words have so many different meanings. 

     

    I'd rather find out how people define it, and how they experience it.  

     

    In truth, the best proof of such things isn't 'look on page 235', its to get people to personally experience it.  For the most part aren't you talking about the subtle energies of meditating outside?  

     

    Here's a question.  My fields of study haven't involved yin or yan chi specifically, other then broad motion of movement along orbits.  But in KAP, the micro-cosmic orbit, and specifically Glenn Morris's writings he talks about running hot or running cold.  With hot being much more pervasive.  That running cold is needed in the upper levels and true mastery requires being able to circulate both.

     

    Is Morris's running hot and cold the same phenomena as separating yin and yan chi?  Or is it a different phenomena?  His books were always a bit murky on how to run cold.

     

    Personally doing emptiness meditation I run hot, especially because I do a little Stillness Movement bob while sitting and keep my hands on my dan tien.

     

     

    There's different approaches to this:

     

    A BaZi chart will show you if, for instance, you have 'more fire'.

     

    Another approach- the MCO is running reverse, so more cool, magnetic

     

    Think of all the students learning/practicing TaiChi in a studio

     

    Surely they are able to balance Yin and Yang in an insulated, artificial structure

     

    Glenn Morris- talking on Kundalini, you will be running hot if your Jing is depleted

     

    Everyone is unique, so no clear cut answers for this

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