PrimordialLotus

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  1. This is non-logical since Buddhism is based on the teachings of many Buddhas such as the Mahasiddhas, Dzogchen tertons etc. Not just Shakyamuni Gautama Buddha.

     

    I always laugh when people claim Buddhism "originated" with Gautama. There were many Buddhas before him; and many after.

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  2. What is known as Buddhism, Taoism, etc. existed before the Indians, Chinese, etc; and it will exist (and not exist) after they have returned to it.

     

    This oaf is arguing over manifestations.

     

    Attempting to start a petty culture war; don't feed the troll.


  3. Not sure I understand how it is boring. Or your tiring of hearing this?

     

     

    Agreed.

     

     

    Interesting that Fuxi and Nuwa are depicted as serpents.

     

     

    Yes, that picture... and another one I have.

     

     

    Worship seems a very old practice in most every culture.

     

    Female supremacy is always boring, as is male supremacy.

     

    Anyone trying to "be the boss" is by nature NOT the boss. Up is down and down is up

     

    Worship IS old. However, we are speaking of worshiping manifestations as opposed to recognizing the source. The true sage did not worship "gods and goddesses." In fact, the worship of "gods" stems from the degeneration of the One Law .

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  4. 6. Worshiping representations as gods and goddesses so base

     

    i dont know anyone who is worshipping the representaions

     

    Gods and goddesses are symbols, mere representations of the one truth. They are not the source. People get caught up in the many manifestations.


  5. Indeed. However, I suggest that the True Way is both emptiness and fullness.

     

    Void is the primordial, substance is the manifestation. Being stems from non-being. The Nameless flows through all things and then returns to the state of non-being.

     

    Formless and perfect.

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  6. Some folklore on them:

    1. Yes... brother and sister... but I heard she was the boss as there are more creation stories for her. And they prohibited marrying same family members thereafter. :)

     

    2. According to "Duyi Zhi" (獨異志) by Li Rong of the Tang Dynasty (618-907), sectioned as “opening of the universe”, there were a brother and a sister called Nvwa, living in Kunlun Mountains (崑崙), and there were no ordinary people at that time. They wished to become husband and wife, yet, felt shy about it. Thus, the brother took his younger sister to the top of the mountain and swore: "If Heaven allows us to be husband and wife, please let the clouds gather; if not, please let the clouds scatter." Then, the clouds gathered together. The younger sister came to live with her brother. She made a fan with grass to hide her face. The present custom of women taking a fan in their hands originated from that story.

    3. The Qin is an instrument attributed to Fuxi. It has 7 strings for Yin, Yang, and the 5 elements.

    4. Huaiyang is thought to be the capital of King Fuxi and where he died. In the north stands the Taihao Fuxi Mausoleum or Renzu Temple, the “Ancestor Temple”. It was first built in the Spring and Autumn Period and then developed in the Han with a temple built in front. It was built with the logic of Fuxi’s eight diagrams. There is terse inscription showing Fu Xi's importance: "Among the three primogenitors of Hua-Xia civilization, Fu Xi in Huaiyang Country ranks first.” The ceiling depicts the 64 hexagrams.

    5. There is a well known picture of Fu Xi and Nu Wa as husband and wife (with lower halves intertwined as snakes) which dates to the late Han period. Fuxi is holding a carpenter’s square (矩,Ju-symbol of earth) and Nuwa is holding a compass (規, Gui-symbol of heaven). The words together as Gui Ju mean a rule, custom, keeping order or well-behaved. Thus, these words also hold the meaning as measuring some distinction (ie: between right and wrong). This is seen as one of the oldest archtypes of comparing heaven (round) and earth (square), and as a representative dualism of Yin and Yang (Fuxi as yang oversees Earth as yin; Nuwa as yin oversees heaven as yang).

    6. Nuwa is celebrated each year at the Wa Huang Gong Temple in Hebei Province. There is a Nuwa temple in Longcheng Village, Qinan county of Gansu Province. Some of the minorities in South-Western China hail Nüwa as their goddess and some festivals, such as the "Water-Splashing Festival," are in part a tribute to her sacrifices. Nüwa is also the traditional divine goddess of the Miao people.

     

    1. Matriarchy again? How boring. I prefer anarchy/chaos. However, the way dictates that the "lower" is always the higher; while the "higher" is always the lower. So him being the lower half makes sense. "Everything that rises must fall."

     

    2. Inbreeding? How nice...I suppose when you get down to it we are all brothers and sisters in some way, form, or fashion.

     

    3. Interesting.

     

     

     

    4. Ah, so the eight diagrams, Ba Gua, can be attributed to Fu Xi? Its funny because the masons say "the serpent is the true god." That's what they believe.

     

    Link to Wiki on Fu Xi BaGua: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight_Diagrams#Fuxi_.22Earlier_Heaven.22

     

    5. You mean this picture?

     

    220px-Anonymous-Fuxi_and_N%C3%BCwa.jpg

     

    6. Worshiping representations as gods and goddesses so base.


  7. All of them? Really? I think it might be a tiny bit more complicated than that.

     

    Fuxi is the serpent God who fathered the entire human race with his sister in the 29th century BCE, so I suppose he's utlimately the founder of all human things, including Daoism. But -- this is just what I hear, I wasn't there -- the Celestial Masters felt pretty strongly about Laozi's role starting in 142 CE, and all religious Daoism that we know of descends from that tradition. It's not like Benjamin Hoff made Laozi up in the Tao of Pooh.

     

    I never knew that.

     

    I just read the wiki on Fu Xi and Nuwa. Apparently they created humans from clay according to the myth; this can be found in numerous cultures, the creation from clay. And it sounds alot like Noah's Ark with the flood and all.

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  8. You cannot "learn" to be a "true Taoist"; The true way is emptiness. Attempt to learn it and lose it.

     

    It is said: "He who devotes himself to learning seeks from day to day to increase his knowledge; he who devotes himself to the Tao seeks from day to day to diminish his doing."


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    Is being enlightened the same as being awake? It is just that I use those terms differently. I feel being awake can lead to enlightenment. Drinking coffee effects the mind (promotes glutamate release by blocking the adienosine receptor) so it is hard for me to be "awake" after I drink coffee.

     

    That's strange because two weeks before I joined this site; I decided to stop drinking coffee. I pretty much noticed how coffee tended to be a stimulant for people with addictive personalities.

     

    Example: When they could not afford cigarettes and alcohol; they were drinking twenty cups of coffee.

     

    Sorry to go off topic. Just thought I would bring that up.