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I cannot control insomnia at the moment. I have decided to abandon this practice for a few weeks until I am aligned once more. I will be engaging in KY sodarshan chakra kriya, anuloma viloma and kirtan kriya. Progress will be posted on a ky yahoo group

day 50. I have been unable to post due to the nature of my nite practice that was followed by sleep. However, as I have engaged in practice, I noticed continuos spontaneous movement during practice. It seems to be a challenge to be still and quiet the mind. As a final contemplation to the practice, I have decided to add some meditation, which has helped me maintained a settled mind, though I am unsure whether to maintain this neutrality following the practice.

Minor respiratory issues have prevented me from doing spontaneous adjustment practice and the 3rd qigong practice. As soon as I overcome that hazard, I will continue my normal practice. I performed a 3 day tech gadget fast that allowed me to achieve a neutral mind faster. I will see what happens from here on.

I think tha after a certain period of time doing meditation, one comes across a major obstacle, some hindrance which may very well be the mind's last attempt to return back to an old pattern. During meditation, one tends to cultivate the neutral mind, and in doing so, one must fight the urges from the negative mind. As you progress in your meditation, you dissolve these blockages, leading you to a different or higher state of neutrality (if the description makes sense).

For example, a cigarette addict decides to quit. As he or she quits, he finds urges to return, I feel that the blockages are the equivalent of urges. Also, the blockages are a bottled up emotion that gets released after a certain period of meditation. At least, I believe this is my interpretation of the facts. I also never heard of a blockage developing as a result of forcing meditation onto emotion.

If you may recall, people that are nervous are told to take a deep breath in order to calm down. If this analogy makes sense, I would be surprised to think that people would suddenly develop an emotional blockage out of the habitual relaxation technique to calm themselves down.

I never thought that a forced concentration would lead to a meditative state, but it would make sense if it was possible, as you are blocking all stimuli in order to favor that one thought. I believe that what you are doing is setting a pattern to deal with an event. I will also comment that this is a great idea, as the brain gets used to dealing with adverse circumstances on a more habitual basis.

day 42. noticed more spontaneous movement in the neck area. im getting the hang of opening channels. However, I still cant do much of the exercises involving the back due to the lower back pain from insomnia. i will keep practicing with the tools that i have. I will maintain the current practice for another 1.5 months. After the time has passed, I will continue adding exercises.

day 32. Tempted to restart. Received a vaccine that nearly shutdown my immune ystem, so I could not practice in such a precarious state. I performed the 3rd exercise in the series of jl's dvd. So far I have 10 essential qigong exercises...spontaneous qigong adjustment...and opening channels. I noticed that the opening channels exercise made me feel more grounded and at peace. Also noticed that the practice overall helped me feel more at ease with my own self.

day 29. took 2 days off. noticed that there was less movement but more heat. Some mind chatter. Will focus less on chatter. 1 more day and will progress with exercises. I feel I should focus on the level 2 of exercises a little more.

day 25 yesterday. Noticed that the mental chatter somewhat stopped, but continued to a certain extent. Some more spontaneous movement. I will advance the practice 5 days from now. As usual, taking 2 days off per week. I did notice that as I put my feet together after an exercise I feel like a magnetic sensation, or at least a different sensation that seems a little hard to explain with words. This similar sensation also seems to happen when I do gatheringg chi from heaven. As my hands approach the lower dan tian, I feel something different in my hands, a sensation present on the outside rather than the inside.

@chi dragon: sometimes I seem to overlook certain subtleties. Thanks for the input on the lower dan tien.

day 24. I have been taking 2 days off for every 7 days of practice, as advised by the kunlun book: kunlun system by max chris. Jenny lamb's dvd has general guidelines, but max tells the hows and the whys for practicing the way you do. I am still restricting back exercises due to sciatic pain from insomnia.

Thx guys for your input.

@chidragon. I have practiced deep diaphragmatic breathing, so my ability to breath, though not the highest possible one, it is at least advanced compared to the normal population. Breath is inhale exhale thru nose, breath with diaphragm. I feel that most of this asthma symptoms, which have subsided, came from the heat generated from the few beginning days of practiced, followed by an environment in a/c. In terms of deep breathing, I Ihave done 20 second breath for hours at a time.

@leif. thx for the input. A few days ago, I discovered Max's advice, which I believe will very well promote a sound practice with qigong. I am following more advice from him as well on other areas of the practice, despite only using JL's system, since it seems like something both logical and good to follow.

@chi dragon. Dan tian. I agree. However, I once thought that the lower dan tian corresponded to the belly. So, what you are saying that it does not necessarily correspond to the belly, but rather, the region that has to do with the diaphragm and the nerve bundles, etc.

day 19. time flies. Have been working on the qigong. Yesterday did not do the leg stretching exercise, and today I did not do 3 warm-up exercises that involve stretching, due to the fact that there is back pain from insomnia.

I have noticed mental chatter that I find it hard to quiet down. Need to keep working on it. Today's spontaneous knee movement was intense, I ended up stopping due to some knee pain. I believe this problem is more of a sleep issue than it is a practice issue, because insomnia has been rampant for over a month.

day 14 yesterday. 10 ex. and adjustment. Noticed more spontaneous movement from adjustment, as I focused less on mental chatter and more on letting go. However, such movements caused me to become more self-conscious, which led to less spontaneous movements. I will do all I can to cultivate a neutral mind of awareness.

day 13. felt at peace with myself after perfoming qigong. I have learned most of qigong parts starting from 10 ex. to adjustment. I believe the focus on myself instead of how the moves are done are what have given me that feeling of internal peace. Not caring much about the outcome has also empowered me. Rite now I simply feel at ease.

Adjustment: a bit more movement on feet than usual. Mind wandered as well.

day 11. 10 essential exercises and spontaneous adjustment. With spontaneous adjustment, I am still getting used to the timing. Some trembling on left and rite leg. Ocassional shrug in shoulders.

I believe that max's kunlun has a lot of jenny's stuff. It may be the same pose. the one which I do for adjustment, reqs that you sit straight, almost 90 degree angle knees, with ankles up. I'm taking this practice real easy, since I understand it is pretty strong. Noticed stronger effects as I get more relaxed and mindless as well.

day 8. Not sure abut what opening gates mean, any insight to it will be greatly appreciated. I re-read the best time to practice. Thanks for the pointer. I will change my practice accordingly.

Practice 10 ex, and spontaneous qigong adjustment. I am just beginning the adjustment phase. Some movement in legs, but that's about it. Some internal peace. I will keep up for today.

day 6. performed essential qigong exercises even after working out. Noticed that i dont get as fatigued, now that i have mastered the movement. 1 more day and I will be ready for the next phase. I also felt some asthma symptoms. I have to conclude that this kind of exercises open up the lungs like few other techniques i have used.

I believe heat is generated as well. I noticed the breath and the slow movements help in calming the mind. I feel I should perform these exercises a little earlier during the day, as they have been performed between10-12pm.

According to sources, it is recommended to practice between hrs of 4-10 because that is when a part of body is most open (the dan tien?) So a few q's to answer are, is it really this part of the body that is opened, the dan tien? Coincidence also that practice times are usually at the same time when the cortisol cycle of the body is highest(between 4-8pm). What relationship is there b/w body's hormonal cycle and the dan tien?

day 5. More practice of the 10 essential exercises. I noticed that I am now getting used to the exercises. It feels more like a warm-up than a major work-out. In 2 days I will begin the next phase.

day 4. some fatigue after gathring chi from all around. some peace of mind after exercise

yep, everything is being done with great care.

Day3. I have restarted for several days because of my inability to keep up with the practice. This day I was expecting it to be as easy as the 2nday in a row. However, it was more challenging. I performed this practice 2 hrs after intense physical activity, and I felt I was really working my ass off after finishing the 10 essential exercises. So lesson learned, no vigorous activity before qigong. after performing qigong was at ease with myself. much more relaxed. after 7 straight days, I will advance my practice, four more to go.

some experiences from other practitioners from qigong:

http://www.thetaobums.com/index.php?/topic/20921-yigong-by-sifu-jenny-lamb/page__hl__jenny%20lamb

Found a post of the content of the cd from another member on forum. I will post it to save time of rewriting:

The world is full of concidence.... I would say maybe since I owned the book from Max before I would say : maybe.

 

I got the hands on the DVD by Sifu Lamb by a good friend for a week now.

I would like to give different comments but I want to point out the good points.

 

1.The ten essential Qigong Exercises in the beginning for opening mostly the joints using the Breathing of Tai Chi in the movements (up in, down out for example)

The movements are done standing and stay mostly stationary. This is something I had not found in the book and appear very basic but I have memoriy of having read on the old homepage from "Robert Peng"(can not find it on the new)that one of the essentials in Qigong from his is to opening up the joints- but I am not sure.

 

2.Spontaneous Adjustment Qigong (Yigong level 1). Sifu Lamb gives a good explaination how the spontaneus Adjustment has to be done. I favor her saying to let the sides do what they want and there is no need to balance them out, as I understand there is no need to move syncron on both side and just let it happen.(you can cirle right small and low with the hand while the other hand make big windmills for example.

But mostly I see syncron movement by Sifu Lamb in her DVD.)

 

This one is exactly like the sitting version from the book where I remember Max had wool lamb skin under his feet.

 

3.Tapping Qigong is following the Merdians way the TCM acupuncture have give them would run from 1 to end. I can not say much about it as Donna Eden would have better explaination in her book and on Youtube about "Tracing the Meridans". Core concept is following the way like the TCM would/will strengthen the body.

 

4.Strike wall with back is interesting. There is not much to say since I find it pretty unique to stimulate the back with striking areas against a wall.

 

5.Opening Channels Exercises are mostly on the fours on the ground mostly loosening hips but not only, dynamic soft stretching and loosening of the body.

 

It is indeed for Self Healing, getting better motionrange, flexibility, strengthening

and opens a door to higher level.

(I left out the "besides" comments. you only get shareware from me since Multiarms wanted)

 

Best too,

Q

 

Edit: Technical recommendation for :

 

"Circling ancles & Rotating Wrist"

The fingers are interlocked. So one thumb is over a other thumb. When one change the side one can change the thumb which was above is now below making the other fingers move one place.

 

So one has 4 Permutation for this exercise :"Left above right, right above left and each of them clockwise and counterclockwise."

 

It is not shown on DVD but it is subtle work on the body which from my perspective is relevant later when it comes to subtle balance.

I applaud the idea of journaling it. I've done Max Christensens style of Kunlun and I'm sure I'll get Sifu Lamb's DVD one day, so I'm very interested in your progress.

 

Two thing's. I'm not sure what you mean with a time period between 4 to 10 pm. That seems like an awfully long time. For an energy meditation it could be a problem going too long and too deep. I would be surprised if she recommended that much so soon. <I could be wrong>

 

Two, this style of journaling may be more appropriate to our Personal Blog site. Ask the mods for one and they should be able to create one for you in the Personal section. One plus is it gives you total control over what posts stay and which are deleted. That way you don't have to deal with annoying unasked advice posts; like mine .

 

Look forward to reading how your practice goes.

 

Michael

to the first poster: qigong for self-healing. The exercises are called 10 essential qigong exercises, I will post details of them later, but essentially you are moving your arms and legs to different postures following your breath. CD is available in jenny lamb's site.

to 2nd poster: the practice is only a 30min-1hr time frame. It is aimed to be practiced anytime bw 4pm and 10pm, sorry for the confusion. I would not EVER do that much of any practice so soon. thx for the info on the blog, I will work on it to keep it a little clean.

Day 1. Doing only the 10 warm-up exercises.

Did 10 warm-up exercises that consisted in focusing on breath for a prolonged period of time while performing certain movements. Practice was intense. As an active sports person, I noticed this practice was pretty strong. Several movements involving slow motion and joint lubrication. With the warm-up exercises alone, I started feeling a work-out. Post 10 ex., I noticed asthma symptoms.

It seems like this practice req's more groundwork than anything else when you first start it, but I feel it is too early to come to conclusions.

This will be a 30-day practice with JL dvd. It will be carried between 4-10pm every day for 30 days. The objectives of this practice will be to simply assess the effects of Qi Gong as a first-time user.

Background: Knowledgeable in kundalini. Performed no practice in the past several months. Had some addictive behavior that was kicked 80 days ago. Active in weightlifting, prior issues with asthma several years ago.

Currently listening to quantum mind power(brain entrainment), for the past 2weeks

does somebody know where "the hundred questions/pai wan p'ien" translated by rolf homann may be obtained? they have a copy on amazon for like a thousand dollars

 

http://books.google.com/books?id=KQIVAAAAIAAJ&pg=PR2&lpg=PR2&dq=rolf+homann+brill+leiden&source=bl&ots=cLfEjKd5Z4&sig=6PKUqi9oDmlFfMHj7Ua9HoEbkB0&hl=en&ei=XsaGS8CmCsq-_QbxiZCbDw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAUQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=rolf%20homann%20brill%20leiden&f=false

 

recently i came across an interesting new translation of the hui ming ching done by a student who says that the ones done by eva wong and richard wilhelm do omit important parts of the text

 

https://circle.ubc.ca/bitstream/2429/11432/1/ubc_2001-0087.pdf

Hey guys,

Anyone have Kunlun level 1, or Pillars of Bliss that I could borrow? I want to seriously partake and this practice and need as many resources I can get ahold of. I promise to use materials for 5 days and return them upon finishing its usage.

yeah, my copy is floating around somewhere, probably wouldnt be a bad idea to pass it along. I will post back up if I come across it

hey guys, would definitely want to have a kunlun book if anyone has one. I dont have the means to buy one. At the very least if someone could loan it, I am willing to pay for postage, and return it after a few days of taking notes from it. I would really want to begin practice. Please pm me at [email protected]

Hello,

I am jorge. I have practiced kundalini for about 4 months and am looking to enhance/improve my skills and give back to the community with insights of what I have done.

I am looking forward to meeting some of the practitioners. As of now, I am in day 110 of my sodarshan chakra kriya practice and have practiced kundalini yoga for the past 8 months.