jacklantegi

Thank you so much. I found your reply really enlightening!

What you say makes a lot of sense.

The thing is, in SFQ, Master Lin recommends practicing as much as you want. His belief is that the more you practice, the more results you will get. I practice anywhere from 2-6 hours a day.

I'm reluctant to give up SFQ for something else, because I don't think I have given it a fair shot. I was thinking at the 6 month mark, I would get a pretty good idea whether it is right for me.

That said, I'm finding I am enjoying my SFQ practice less and less as time goes on. I am also feeling less connected to Master Lin. After having done several phone healing sessions and consultations with him, I not having benefited in any way, it made me lose some confidence in his system, which translates into my sessions being less productive. Ideally, the best thing would be for me to go see him in person, but I am currently unable to do so for financial reasons. He is a very kind and loving man, but that's not what this is about.

So I'm wondering whether I should continue and see whether my faith in the system will somehow be resurrected, or go on and try something else altogether.

Some of this is definitely due to lack of variety, as with most things that involve repetition, but I do not believe it to be the main reason.

I am and looking into continuing to just do the Kundalini Yoga meditation I mentioned, perhaps 4-5 times a day, but I am not knowledgeable enough to know whether it is safe or practical do only be doing this type of meditation several times a day.

It's also quite hard (as I have found out), to know which types of practices can go well together. It seems that your best option is to simply adhere to one system and stick with it, but that doesn't always pan out.

For instance, if I start working with the yogic system and working on my chakras and raising Kundalini, will I be missing out on the other important aspects of energetic cultivation such as developing chi, storing chi in the Dan Tien, balancing and opening the various channels, etc. ?

I have a lot of time to devote to cultivation, and it's something that I love doing very much, so I'm really not sure where to go with this.

Do what your affinity is.

 

"You should feel like coming back to home."

 

As I see you learn the Spring Forest from home, pretty dedicated to exercise which you make you do too much and not touch the energetics. There is a point in some Qigong I exercised that when you do too much you loose energy also you set different flow.

 

You have to remember that mostly you have a definit amount of energy, rarely having backup from outside energy.

When it has to shared with two different things things will may not get the right amount to hold the energetic mechanism constant and the system get scrambled

as both may also have different flow.

 

More is that you as a beginner waste more energy on perception of repetive things

and compensations in the body and foreigness of movements, visualisations and reaction to inner and outer enviroment.

And remember that you can build with the same method as much hinderance as much they can free you.

 

Also if you expirience that mixing is not good then do not do it- Common sense.

Else find a amount of exercise time and intensity where you feel good.

Else do as most people : "Do as you want, its your life"

Hey fellow bums!

I had a very strange, enlightening and disappointing experience a few days ago.

I have been practicing Master Lin's Spring Forest Qigong levels 1 & 2 every single day for many months now.

The progress I have achieved is quite substancial, but although it has been remarkably effective for increasing my ability to develop, refine, and manipulate chi, I always felt that there was something missing or not quite right with the results I was having.

So a few days ago after doing some research and debating whether I should give it a shot, I decided I would try doing an hour long guided Kundalini Yoga meditation, which basically consists of focusing on each chakra while listening to very trance-inducing chanting, and the meditation is ended with 25 minutes or so of Savasana. It's something I used to do fairly regularly in the past with little to no tangible results.

However, for the first time ever, I felt some incredibly tangible and blissful effects during the meditation, which as I mentionned, I have never had before (prior to starting my Qigong practice, that is).

After I was done, I felt INCREDIBLY peaceful, centered, energized, happy and emotionally stable. This single experience was more profound than all the hours of Qigong I have done, combined.

The next day, I woke up feeling just as great as I did after my meditation, and resumed my usual Spring Forest Qigong practice. After 2 hours of practice, I started feeling HORRIBLE. Anxiety and depression started setting in, and I just felt like complete crap.

I decided to do the Kundalini Yoga meditation again to see if there was any connection, and lo-and-behold, I was back to normal and then some afterwards.

I know it is bad practice to combine different energetic practices, but I made sure to inquire with the SFQ staff if this would be safe to attempt, and I got their OK.

So I'm at a fork in the road here. I don't know how to proceed. For all the effort Qigong requires, it is somewhat disappointing in terms of short-term well-being. By that I mean that after a lengthy Qigong session, I won't necessarily feel that much better than before I started. However, in the long-term, it is quite effective in that I am a much healthier and happier person than before I ever started my practice.

However, after my experience with Kundalini Yoga, I am tempted to follow this path. I have no idea how or why any of this happened, but I am amazed at how great I feel when doing Kundalini Yoga/Chakra meditations. And isn't that what counts the most? Your daily wellbeing?

Perhaps through all my time doing Qigong, I have unblocked and strengthened many channels and accumulated a decent bit of energy, which primed me for the Kundalini Yoga meditation and enabled it to be much more effective for me. I really don't know.

What do you guys think?

Thanks for the advice.

I have been doing a modified version of the MCO, called the "Small Universe", which was created by Master Chunyi Lin.

I have been practicing every day diligently for the past few months... so I appreciate your recommendation, but I think my questions are very simple and straightforward, and don't require an entire book to find an answer. I also don't think it's a prerequisite for practicing the MCO. In Spring Forest Qigong, Master Lin's Small Universe is a beginning meditation which he states is completely safe for any practitioner, no matter what their level is.

I have many, many books and videos about taoist alchemical practices, but because of all the conflicting information, I wanted to get some input from you guys.

Please check this amazing book before attempting MCO

Tao and longevity

Maybe I'm a bit slow, but it seems like I have never seen a clear explanation for where the energy must be circulated in the MCO in relation to the locations of these two important channels.

The front channel is often said to be in "the front of the body". Does this mean that the energy actually goes down on the front surface of the central channel, meaning on the skin, or even outside of the body? I've heard in other places that the central ligament located right under the skin is what actually conducts the energy.

Elsewhere, it is said that the energy descends in the MIDDLE of the body, like when you are supposed to descend to the Dan Tien, we all know that the Dan TIen is deep behind (and perhaps below) the naval, right? So how can it be in front of the body???

Which one is it?

Regarding the back channel: Same question. Does the energy ascend directly THROUGH the spinal cord, or behind (or perhaps outside) of the spinal cord?

And the last related question: The third eye. Is it on the surface of the forehead area, or some distance behind it?

I have been doing the Small Universe (which is Master Lin's version of the MCO) for 3 months now, and I still can't get a hang of it. I have almost never gotten any good results from doing the practice and its always a real chore for me to do (but the active exercises are VERY fun, though!).

Another thing about the Small Universe- several of the "key" focus points along the back channel, are, in other MCO systems, "dangerous gates" where one is under no circumstance to focus their energy, because it is supposedly not only counterproductive, but may also be dangerous.. it's not something that I'm worried about, it was just surprising when I found out about it.

Any advice or opinions would be greatly appreciated!

Hi everyone! There have been many enlightening discussions on how to gradually train your body to be able to sit in the full lotus posture.

I have been performing a rigorous daily stretching program for almost 2 months now and I have made pretty good progress.

However, my biggest issue is that I cannot full flex (extend) my ankles. Most people can do this without a problem, but I was born without this ability.

I have incorporated ankle stretches into my program, but I am not seeing any progress in terms of ankle flexibility at all! I am starting to worry that this may be an anatomical abnormality that I have, and not just regular stiffness.

I have read in many places such as here http://zenmontpellier.voila.net/eng/lotus/lotuseng.html (Scroll down to figure. 13) that it is very bad to attempt the lotus or half lotus position without having your ankles fully flexed as it adds a lot of stress on the knee joint. And I can attest to that! Although through all the practice I have done, I am now able to sit in half-lotus relatively easily, after sitting in this posture for a while (anywhere from 15-45 minutes), my knees are in excruciating pain when I get out of the posture and it takes a few minutes before I'm able to walk.

So what should I do? If it's not a good idea to practice the lotus position because of my ankles, how can I practice it at all? Should I just continue working on all my stretches and simply leave out actually sitting in the posture until my ankles become more loose?

It really really sucks, because after having sat in the posture, I can really attest to the numerous tangible benefits it has had on my meditations, and now I will have to give that up.

Do any of you bums have the same problem as I do? Any tips on increasing ankle flexibility? Stretching my ankles is the most painful thing *ever* for me. It is ridiculously painful for some reason. I cannot even sit in za-zen for more than a few minutes (sitting with your butt on the bottom of your feet) at a time.

Any advice at all would be extremely appreciated!

I sincerely apologize if this is the inappropriate section of the forum to be posting this, but I figured it would get more views.

I'm desperately trying to find an obscure file that I know occult.bz has, however, they recently closed sign-ups and it became invite-only.

If you have an invite, could you please PM me? I have a lot of original stuff to contribute myself.

All the best!

Dude! I applied for membership over a week ago and never got a reply. =(

edit: Nevermind! Turns out I just never got a confirmation. All is well.

Make your own, I did.

Very inspiring!

I had been doing a rigurous stretching regimen for about a month and got to half lotus and I sort of gave up....

This thread has made me decide to keep on truckin'!

Hi everyone!

I have read in many, many places that jing is stored in semen, but I have not found a definitive answer to the following question:

Is it the jing located in the actual sperm cells, in the seminal fluid, or an alchemical by-product carried within the liquid but not in a physical form.

If one is infertile (due to hormonal treatment; can produce seminal fluid but not sperm), does this mean that jing is conserved?

If it is conserved, can it be manipulated in the same way as if it were stored in the sperm cells? Where does it stay before relocating in the sperm?

My favorite is Alan Watts' description of enlightenment: "Everything feels like normal every-day reality except you're floating about 2 inches off the ground"

DMT is the polar opposite of a state of emptiness.

It is pure chaos. Awe-inspiring, blissful, terrifying... but chaotic.

It's as far from a meditative experience as you could possibly get.

Ayahuasca is way overrated as well IMO. I know people that have done it multiple times and have gained nothing from it. It's not a very life-changing experience.

One of my friends has done DMT a bunch of times. He says that when you do it your entire presence dissapears and you feel like you merge with everything else. Some crazy shit. Hopefully you'll eventually be able to get back to that state in a natural way. Best of luck.

 

-My 2 cents, Peace

Dude... you're selling the PDF for 50$ ???

I'm no legal expert but I think you're breaking a few IP laws there buddy.

The book is available on my website, first three people to pm or email the website will recieve a free copy.

 

http://taoist-texts.blogspot.com

 

Lucas,

Dude, you ROCK. Thank you!

If you don't mind, could you share your experience with these tapes?

Track 1: http://www18.zippyshare.com/v/77143906/file.html

Track 2: http://www37.zippyshare.com/v/47188242/file.html

It's been a couple of days and still no news from the forum. Are there any special requisites or something...?

Same here... how long does it typically take to approve a new membership? I haven't received any confirmation emails or anything and it's been a while now.

 

Anyway, can't wait to join the group!

Same here... how long does it typically take to approve a new membership? I haven't received any confirmation emails or anything and it's been a while now.

Anyway, can't wait to join the group!

Let's keep this thread alive in hopes the elders (lol) will spot it and can chime in. I'm going to start the first book this evening.

The book that you can download describes the first step if I read right and the second, the Volume 9 book has all the steps. I haven't gotten around to reading the first.

Ah.. I didn't know what you guys were talking about... I hadn't even started reading the first book ... lol. I'm going to get on it!

So if I understand correctly... it only describes step 1.... step 1 of what exactly? The 9-step child longevity program??

There's lots of places selling it online that might be able to ship to the UK.

What's in that book exactly?

Just saw that this volume has steps one to three in

 

Yan Xin Qigong Collectanea Volume 9

 

cant find it anywhere in the uk but anyone in the states should have no bother

There were some members on here discussing the tape about 4 years ago... if we're lucky they might stumble upon this thread. Otherwise, I fear it is pretty much impossible to get.

its on the first page of the search ,

i got it straight away

read some of it yesterday , very good , alot of importance placed on virtue as well as the practice.

 

Does any one know what the other 8 steps involve ?

gonna try and have a go at the level 1 today

has anyone been practising level 1 , if so what have you felt from it ?

 

i too would love to hear that audio tape !

Well, I literally went through 15 pages of google to no avail. Nothing. Nada.

Does anyone have an invite to theoccult.bz ? Perhaps I might have some luck there?

Does anyone know where I can get the "Child Longevity Nine Step Qigong" audio tape? There was some discussion on this a few years ago on the board and it seems the only place you could get it were on eBay and even then they were poor quality counterfeits.

Does anyone still have a copy? I'd be willing to buy it since it seems impossible to find anywhere!

Very interesting! This is the first time I hear of this man.

Google was not able to provide much in terms of published material... (except for the one book that was mentioned here). Mostly anecdotal accounts.

Wow! Lots of great posts since I last checked. I will absolutely read them all but I don't have the time right now.

I just wanted to say that (today), I thought about her maybe once an hour, and only for a couple of minutes at a time, whereas before that, it was pretty much constantly (very bad)... like once every 5 minutes for 5 minutes... so yeah.. all the time lol.

If I can keep this up I'm golden.

I think that if I reperform the ritual, I will have to imagine the cords still being attached? I think that would be counterproductive since I already cut them, no?

Anyway, thanks again my fellow bums. You are saving me hundreds of dollars in therapy haha

I just performed a cord severage, following some basic guidelines I found online and my own experience and intuition, and I suggested to her to do the same, at the same hour as I did.

I must say I feel immensely better. I don't know if I did it right, but I sure as heck think it worked.

I have read some places that this ritual must be repeated a couple of times to be effective. Is this so?

Oh my! Those are gorgeous! Much prettier than the p. cubensis I've been growing all these years. Hehehhe.

I take Reishi in pill form but after seeing those pics I'm seriously considering growing my own now!