Chanwu
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Marrying on the ground of an embassy's soil most likely will not make you an American. John McCain, a candidate for US predidency, may be declared illegible for election because he was born on a military base in another country.
I have had stories about having a baby above US soil, in an airplane that is... that it allegedly gives you citizenship.
I haven't gotten this confirmed though but it may explain why the us airplane companies won't allow pregnant women aboard, if they have 2 months or less until they deliver.
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So you admit it, he is a reptilian? OH MY GOD RUN AWAY.... If we chop off his tail, will it grow back, will it will it???
Dude,
Our webmaster actually was the reptilian baby made famous by V!
Yours,
Yoda
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Is this for real... do people actually fall for this nonsense...
Maybe the V series used REAL REPTILIAN ACTORS! Oh my...
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Chi is very easy to feel for me in a fully awakened state without meditation or anything... sometimes it takes a bit of relaxing and deep breathing but it's not a big deal.
Usually putting the tips of my thumb and index finger together and the other fingers together too I can much more easily get the flow going somehow.
I believe that all that stands in people's way of feeling it is confidence that they don't need special powers to feel it.
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Capable of initiating qi from the bottom of your body is the first step towards eternity, however, to most of the people, even minor feeling of the existence of it seems unlikely . There are many reasons for it , part of the factors we have to consider are as follows:
1) Gender : male will be easier; after all, we are talking about a crusade which definitely needs independent mind and fearless spirit. Technically speaking , "cutting the red dragon " is not difficult , but who gets such a resolve?
2) Your age: age around 30-40 is the best period; if you are too young to meet it , then you may not have a serious attitude towards it ; if you are too old, then it is always difficult...
3)Single or married : If you are single , it will be much easier.
4) The social and cultural context in which you were born .Needless to say it is very important; all methods , experiences , secret keys are linked with it
I don't like "rules" that make some feel disencouraged, they only do harm. I would rather say that this is purely about dedication and attitude. Nothing else matters. If you happily schedule time for meditation and you're dedicated to it, then you have all you need.
Gender doesn't matter, age doesn't matter - but too young and you probably don't have patience or will to meditate. Single or married - depends on dedication and what your marriage is based upon. The bigger factor is if you have kids, but even then your dedication can push you towards making deals with your mate to take care of the kids alone for the 40-60 minutes a day you meditate, perhaps in return you do the same thing. All you need is dedication. There's always a way to find time, if you have dedication.
The social and cultural context.... well yes but if you are dedicated and you have a positive attitude towards your meditation, then of course all is in your favor.
When people make rules that say "this and that is too hard" then it reinforces some people's sceptisim about their ability.
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Yes but we all see truth from different perspectives. Hence there's a forum where we discuss things. If you take something that is posted as if the author of the post thinks he got THE TRUTH, then I think you are misinterpreting things.
And even if not - this is a forum consisting of different people so there will be different truths. I do not understand this post, still.
Read your answer here please:
"This is what forums are all about.. discussion and sharing of knowledge. You can take it or leave it, it's up to you to pick up things in this forum that you can relate to, or throw them away."
be assured I had not the "sharing of knowledge" in mind, whatever it might be you perceive it to be.
Harry
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This is what forums are all about.. discussion and sharing of knowledge. You can take it or leave it, it's up to you to pick up things in this forum that you can relate to, or throw them away.
I don't understand why you are posting this :-) It's only natural for a discussion forum.
that once in a while people appear on the picture and tell everybody else their belief on what is true cultivation and the only true way of cultivation, and how to understand a certain phrase word etc., scripture, only true scripture etc. from a place and in a way as if they were the only authority on the matter? They are not asked for it but just do it. Then we always have the same story happen: they find supporters that feel so much resonating with it, maybe sharing same experiences etc. At the same time we have those who take a contra-position and fiercefully declare how little knowledge they actually have.
I have lost the idea in which way all of the above is beneficial to anyone. The only thing I always learn from it is to be supported in my idea of relativity of truth (which I have been scolded for) as long as one has not actually reached it. If one has reached it I assume none of us would actually enter any of the above.
Any ideas?
Harry
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"You should feel joy and bliss"
why should you feel joy and bliss at all?
That is my best words for the peace and stillness I experience in flashes during meditation.
As to my experience, I am not very experienced, nor unexperienced, in fact... I don't think I want to put myself on a scale at all :-)
When you think in terms of time and advancement you can sometimes just postpone the advancement. It's only the "filter" that is in your way of realizing this.
This is the allegorical meaning of the embryo or the germinal vesicle. This original you didn't need any breath, it was pure. Then it grew up, learning lots of things, what is possible and what is not, what life is and what life is not. When you return your mind to this state you will see the truth, this is what it means.
But of course, this is my interpretation. Take it as you will.
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Control of the mind leads to the forming of the embryo, it is only meant as an allegoric meaning if you ask me. You plant a seed of true consciousness within you, true being, true spirit.
If you can hear your breath you are breathing irregulary. Use the mind to slow down breathing. If your mind is racing, rest your mind on the breathing. Breath is controlled by mind, mind is in the breathing, thus you reach stability with this technique.
Use your inner seeing and hearing. See the formless, hear the soundless. Listen to the soundless sound of your breath entering your body. See the shapeless void within yourself.
You should feel joy and bliss, not tired and drained.
Should thoughts arise you just investigate them - where does your thought come from? "Who said that"? Where did it stop? And when you realize this, then you have clear seeing. You cannot grasp it, so now you know the nature of it. You cannot grasp mind. Your practise in the beginning will be full of thoughts, but just passively watch them come and go. Be an observer. Don't follow them - and beware of them taking control. One thought may lead to a hundred others bring triggered. Observe them, let them go. This is dual cultivation.
Beware of your ego, it has a lot of expectation and fixates itself to certain experiences and emotions. Whenever you do this you lock yourself at a certain level and don't get further until you release. Don't ignore the ego, turning your back of it and ignoring it leads to it taking control. Acknowledge it and take control of it.
Learning about the ego is a very important lesson. It wants great experiences, admiration for your spiritual attainment etc. So when you experience complete bliss during a meditation it will try to hold on to it, get more of it, and when you meditate it will try to produce it again. This is wrong, only passive observation is what brings you further. Observation is not analyzing or anything, it is just being. Analyzing means thinking. Experiences come naturally, they aren't attained through effort, putting effort into attaining some specific experience will only make it harder or impossible to reach. Or only induce an illusion of it.
Dual cultivation, the embryo, the germinal vesicle, crystallizing of breath into spirit etc, all such hard to grasp words tends to lead you away into thinking it's too hard to achieve. And it makes it harder to understand the basic concepts of it. It also locks your ego into trying to actively create something within your body, which is wrong. It's only allegorical. You will plant the seed within you by meditating correctly.
It is also important to note that you're not trying to escape this world, but to become more aware of it and without ego. Meditation is a tool to remove the filter that filters everything you call "real". It interprets, it highlights stuff your ego wants, it needs, it judges. When you are liberated from this you will experience true joy. Release from negative emotions.
When you have control of your consciousness, you control energy. Only when you can meditate can you control energy without moving.
Meditating will eventually give you experiences of clear light, being enveloped in comforting warmth, etc. People will have different experiences of this. It will eventually begin to affect your waking consciousness too, filling you with peace and calmness. You can handle all situations without losing your center. You know your ego too well, you know your true being too well, to let problems bother you.
That is not to say you are indifferent towards others and towards problems, you just don't let things affect you negatively because you know this is the illusion of the ego.
This is the basic foundation, the most important foundation of meditation.
Yes, this is all from the secret of the golden flower and perhaps with a little interpretation from me.
Regards,
Chanwu
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This is a valid question imo as it so clearly sais just this on their homepage.
Why is it met as if the guy is trying to ridicule kunlun practioners?
Since the page gives the impression that level 1 doesn't take long, we should be seeing many levitations and light manifestations by now? :-)
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If abortion is murder, then masturbation is genocide!
-Unknown
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If man loving leads to imbalance, then people in celibacy can't attain a higher level of "cultivation" either because that implies that sex is needed for cultivation - that is, heterosexual sex is needed for cultivation.
Yin and yang is in abundance for us all to balance.
To all who say otherwise - like a vulcan I say: your logic is flawed ;-)
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Yeah, because gay men only have anal sex until their anuses explode? Come on :-)
Some don't even like anal sex, how come you are so fixated with anal sex when it's two guys?
Heterosexuals don't have anal sex? Come on, one of my girlfriends love anal sex with her guy ;-)
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Being homosexual doesn't mean one can not cultivate. They will only get so far, and when so far gets reached, it does matter.
Despite what Michael Winn says, there was never a homosexual immortal... lol that's just silly.
Peace,
Lin
To think that a yang/yang relationship would cause problems is just silly. A relationship doesn't break your balance, the balance is within, not from something external.
As some said in this thread - I believe homosexual men have it easier with accepting their feminine/gentle side and create a balance.
To say one would be "screwed" when it comes to a certain degree of cultivation because of being homosexual would be like saying that just because you have too many males at your workplace you will have a yang imbalance.
Or just because you have too many female friends you have a yin imbalance.
A male have access to both yin and yang, it's not limited by such limited thinking as thinking in terms of "cock + cock = yangoverload"!
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Umm... I am lost.... I have no idea what you guys are discussing... heart orgasms and ...sex energy flowing out of the third eye and...
Any techniques for this? What is to be accomplished? I am confused.... hehe.
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Please don't mention high level practioners/masters and others in the thread - I never made this a post about them.
I feel mentioning them in this context is degrading and disrespectful.
My post is simply about that I want people to think carefully before spending 50000 USD for DV's system.
If you are honest about your respect for the masters and high level practioners who D.V. has come in contact with, please leave them out of this because this is not about them.
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Who said that level 4 takes only 6 monthes to achieve?
I said "to gain back".
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Someone mentioned Jesus in an above post. Its funny how he is mentioned in every discussion about money and spirituality. He is not a good example, to say the least. Just look what happened to the church and the movement he started. Is the church a true spiritual and free-of-money-insitution? Did the movement Jesus started make the world a better and more peaceful place? I think not.
Oh, what Jesus taught and what people made it into are two very different things. Christianity today is a blasphemy, if you allow me to generalize/talk about the majority of so-called christians. I do believe Jesus existed and was a kind and loving man, with the compassion of a buddha.
He wasn't the "heaven or hell" or "you're with me or against me" kind of type, now was he? Just pure compassion for others...
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This view I agree with a lot!
And yes, level 4 doesn't take 6 months of meditation to gain back as he claim, when he had done initiations in China - according to the story I read on the foundation forum.
If I was offered to attend the training for free and the class was held next door I still would not be interested in it.
So many of you are fixated on the money aspect of training, to me this is the most minor issues of the overall picture of this organization. I do believe that David has good intentions, however the direction and path which the group is taking is a manifestation of there own weaknesses and gaps in initial development. So I dont see it as right or wrong, but just unfortunate as so many are been affected.
My truth and experience is that nothing can be given to you apart from correct method, the rest is up to you, your will and strength and your fate as to how long and how far you reach in your spiritual development.
There is no need for the bulls, this is the path for those who want to short cut or do not have the strength.
There is nothing like going thru the whole process of making something yourself, the process enriches you in so many ways and so many levels. It allows you to trually be responsible and correct with power.
David now says that he has reached YinYang Gong or Nei Gong, thanks to the bulls. However its misleading to creat the picture that this is equivelant to the now legendary Level 4. Its also dishonest to constanly use the credibility of John Chang as a draw card. You have been playing with fire in your marketing.
There are many many other things too, however my intention is not to Hurt the organization, but rather urge it to be more honest thru all its levels so that it may grow the correct way.
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I am in no way frustrated, I am concerned, that is all.
Buddy didn't mean my post, I think. But thanks for the compliment.
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Charging is not a problem.
The problem is:
Overcharging, hidden fees when people already have paid 5000 euros where the master kills huge animals for you to be healed... huge fee that the students don't get told about in advance, and a very questionable practise in itself
The "buy now or never approach", being selective as to who got the most money, ... I have already gone through most of it in my starting post.
D will get around, at least, 100.000$ for only the summer seminar. So you can see how much this brings each year, if he has 4-5 of those a year.
You say that the chinese look upon money as a part of the "metal in alchemy", surely that may be so, but this is not a balanced cost at all. And this is a very prostituted approach, if you ask me. He would be excluded from many of the pais for doing this, it is not what the teachings are meant to be about.
Charging is one thing, as I said, but getting rich from it, is another. Him getting rich means he has to take from many and keep all for himself, while he give out something that is no product but is completely free and natural for us all. It's like stealing something and then selling it back to the same person for money.
And the fact that he doesn't want the teachings to spread from his own students, or that he doesn't let anyone else teach the first forms of meditation, clearly shows that he wants monopoly.
Of course, he is in the process of releasing books and dvds - this will make him even richer because not only will you get basic instructions from these but you need to buy the really expensive stuff to move on from there. And with him being the only authority and the "only one able to pass on initiations".... well you do the math.
I feel sorry for both D and his students...
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Yeah clearly it's done by using your index finger. But lets leave Robert Peng out of this thread and keep to main topic please :-)
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I looked at the guy you called "the real deal." I always wonder why these guys need to prove themselves with magic tricks.
I read a story about him in another forum, plus his testimonials on his site are convincing... if you refer to the dollar bill through the pen I do believe in such things.
A friend of mine have direct experience with being thrown by chi force alone, so a bill through a pen is not so hard for me to believe in.
We all come from different places and have different views based on that.
I take stories from people I trust as personal confirmation.
Like when my life partner talks about haunted houses and such, I don't even need to question the experiences when confronted with them.
That's another story.
I do believe Robert Peng is the real deal... maybe I'll book a session with him in the future and report here ;-)
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>>I have aired my feelings about it all. I have read through countless pages from one very active forum participant in particular, one who goes through great lengths to make himself heard and his views heard. This is a direct response to the very hardlined approach this man has.<<
Then it is a pretty personal thing... and allow me to be honest: to air your feelings the moment you "seem" to get excluded is a little... hmmmmmmmmmm...
Oh, this is not because I have been excluded, I never intended to join, nor did I do more than just listen to the conversations on the foundation forum. This training is far from exclusive, anyone who wish to attend the courses can go - do they seem to be selective to you? They are not. The only thing that makes it exclusive is the money involved, and the prices above are just for the courses, you need someplace to live and something to eat while there too. And flight tickets. You're in for a lot of spending.
I feel that a lot of people will be mislead by all this and believe this is their only shot at a deeper spiritual life - it's right in front of everyone to pick up and start experiencing. I am afraid that many will live on noodles for 2 years to spend hard earned money on something they would eventually attain with dedication, anyways.
I don't mention full names or anything here because I don't want this to become directed to someone in particular.
I think the approach needs to change a bit, but hey - who am I to judge someone for how they do BUSINESS?
According to a man in the forum, he said "I don't care about the cost, apparently _business_ is good. I am only happy this is available to us through the masters." or something like that.
Yes, it's a business.
When you are working with spiritual matters and call yourself a "master" or "teacher" there is a very important factor: you can BE a teacher, as in it's not your profession, you ARE a teacher, or you can WORK as one, and make it your JOB.
It's a different thing.
And of course, again, this is my view of things.
I invite you to think otherwise - my intention here is to raise a little flag of warning as to what people are in for and that, in my experience, it is not needed at all because all it takes is dedication on your part.
Meditate an hour every day, breathe deep abdominal breathing, develop concentration/focus/blankness of mind and things will come to you, you will change on a very deep level, and after a couple of years even more so.
If you want to spend 10000 dollars to learn these basics you are of course free to do so :-)
Oh here's another good resource, and be sure to check the ones I provided above if you are looking for more knowledge:
http://www.kundaliniawakeningprocess.com/
I found it in the foundation forum - the guy got banned for simply asking questions regarding the approach of the group and the money involved, he's one of the teachers there. Worth checking out imo.
Meditation, liberation from ego, control of thought.
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Don't know why you started speaking about vegetarianism here... but meat doesn't give testosteron (then meat would be classified as a drug/dope, like anabola) and there's not so many calories in it usually, depends on type of meat of course.
Your testicles produce testosteron (from cholesterol if I am not mistaken).