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Just one more incentive.
I'd like to hear more.
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Golden shower is good for your health? Wow, I'm speechless.
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I suppose this was directed at myself or the others who have offered well-reasoned feedback on this topic which disagrees with your basic premiss. If intelligent discussion is not what you want and those who disagree with using drugs to achieve "spiritual" ends are merely hi-jacking "your" thread, then why not go over to erowid and bask in the glorious pro-drug discussions surely taking place there? But you didn't do that. You opened a thread on Taobums and so a discussion has ensued. If you can't deal with that, then why not ingest the drug of your choice and surely you will regain the necessary composure to deal with this harsh reality.
"Drugs are always good m'kay"
It seems that you have plenty of experience with drugs. Could you post your personal experiences please? Thanks
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Why the fuxk would you want to give human emotions to robots? You want to create a SciFi race of Cylons? Human-ness is the problem,...not the solution.
As for your imagined experiences...experience born of belief, can only be experienced through the condition of that belief. Your posts indicate to me, that you have not once in this lifetime, had a direct experience.
An important Lojong says, look at everything you perceive as a dream. The problem is that you believe the dream is genuine,..as in real. LOL
So you think your whole life is a lie and a dream? When you wake up from this "bad dream", your real splendid identidy will be revailed to you?
Dream on.
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Fascinating. That the surface temperature of the sun is an illusion?
Yes, if you can stare into the sun at high noon in the summer. Otherwise, it's real for you.
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Some say those are prana or vitality globules. Just like I said a while back, it's like how all those particles come together when Goku prepares the spirit bomb.
When I look at the sky long enough, the astral tube appears. Always amazes me at how it looks like the time vortex from Dr. Who.
I didn't know it's called astral tube. What can you do with the astral tube? Thanks.
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i will start: don't you hate it that they don't design toilets to flush well enough to get rid of your entire dump in one flush? IT DRIVES ME INSANE
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It's so funny. I bet it never occur to that guy maybe he just shit too much than average people.
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And fuxk Lao Tzu,...right? So why are you here?
It'd be hard since Lao Tzu is a just fictional character. or he's hiding in some secret location if he indeed exists.
I'm here to learn from knowledgeable members like you though you don't only believe in "Gnow".
In one sense all of my belief/thoughts/knowledge is 100% true to me. In another sense, a certain percentage are false though I don't which part is false and I don't know the percentage.
I need a "mirror" to inspect my own thought. This forum is an excellent place to do that.
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Hehehe. I see the Buddhist influences are taking control of you. Don't give in to those nihilistic thoughts!
Minor correction.
Buddism is the "middle way", it's never nihilistic. Please don't spread wrong impression of buddhism. It's not cool.
From wikipedia.
Middle WayMain article: Middle WayAn important guiding principle of Buddhist practice is the Middle Way (or Middle Path), which is said to have been discovered by Gautama Buddha prior to his enlightenment. The Middle Way has several definitions:
- The practice of non-extremism: a path of moderation away from the extremes of self-indulgence and self-mortification;
- The middle ground between certain metaphysical views (for example, that things ultimately either do or do not exist);[48]
- An explanation of Nirvana (perfect enlightenment), a state wherein it becomes clear that all dualities apparent in the world are delusory (see Seongcheol);
- Another term for emptiness, the ultimate nature of all phenomena (in the Mahayana branch), a lack of inherent existence, which avoids the extremes of permanence and nihilism or inherent existence and nothingness.
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When the eyes are crossed in exactly one way, you merge the blind-spots from each eye. (The blind spot is a dark circle in which you cannot see anything because there are no rods or cones in that part of the eye).
When you cross your eyes sufficiently to see the two blind spots, and merge them over top of each other, the circumference of the dark spot is much brighter than the hole; it looks like a tunnel opening.
I didn't know it was the blind spot that I saw in my eyes. thanks, TI.
It's not that easy to move the blind spot exactly where I want since the spot was tiny and hard to see. I practice to align them in movie theater as I posted in another thread. I'd sit a far back (you can do it anywhere, but some distance is lot easier), I cross my eyes so I can see two images of the screen, one from left eye and one from right eye. I'd manipulate my eyes to move the futher apart or close togehter to over lap.
You can do it with moon, star or any thing at distance. But it's not as much fun as playing in movie theaters.
Another way I train my eyes is to gaze at crystal candelier when it's turned off. I'd first focus on a bright spot at a convenient location. When that spot become brighter and colorful, I include the surrounding area until they are bright and colorful. After a while, the whole candelier become sparkling colorful.
Smile increases the brightness. Try to conjure a sense of wonder, it increases the colourfulness.
- gazing straight ahead with unfocused eyes
I look at sky and clouds this way sometimes. After a few minutes, I'd see some transperant little "worms" swimming around in front of my eyes. The longer I gaze the more of them, and brighter. They seems to make the sky pixies.
TI, I think you mentioned something about it. Have you figured out what they are? Thanks.
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If you want real, genuine happiness, let your human-ness go.
So you're a real, genuine happy guy?
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In the meantime,...nirvana, or flip side of samsara, is fully available,...but it cannot be uncovered while clinging to your human-ness for your identity.
Then fu*# nirvanna. I stay human, And I'd create a brand new world which is better and easier to get in.
You can do whatever you like.
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Although most, like youself (as presented in your posts) feel that one's Human-ness is highly desireable,...in actuality, one's Human-ness is barrier to love,...that's basic Buddhism and Taoism.
Check out this Youtube,...how many times does Don mention "human-ness"
I have no idea why you put up the video. I have no idea what Don was talking about. He seems to be a happy guy and loves his drum.
The emotion is highly desireable in my opinion. I'm interested in A.I. (Artificial Intelligence). We still don't know how to generate "human" emotions when we design A.I.
Our creator figured it out.
I don't trust Buddha. He promised he'd get everyone in his promised land of bliss. I'm not there. He's either a slakcer or he's lying.
Only my own experience is gunuine and real to me. All others are just input to me and needs to be processed.
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Good luck, everything. I hope you'd find what you are looking for.
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Ganesha Goes to Lunch: Classics from Mystic India (Mandala Classics) [Paperback]My first introduction to Indian mythology. An easy read and entertaining.
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Guys who should take an interest in what I have to say are not on death row and want to be part of a prison break. Not all convicts want to get out and most don't care to. Only those who don't belong in prison do. Only one got out in Shawshank Redemption, the movie.
Have you seen "the Life of Pi"? by Lee?
I believe the Shawshank Redemption was based on a book by Steven King, and which was based on a true life story.
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That doesn't mean I don't care about my mother. My childhood, in hindsight, was helpful. It never put me in their box,...instead, I learned how to appear to be in the box, without ever being in box. For many years, and still, I have only a superficial relationship with sheeple,...but then, all sheeple relationships are superficial, even though they won't admit it.
Call my crazy. But I think I can have the power to grant these superficial relationship with sheeples as genuine human emotions. I don't have the power to change what you think of your relationship with your mom. But I can accept my mom's superficial/fake love towards me as genuine. Who is to argue with me about what is real and true inside my mind?
If you truly believe that everything is illusion, why can't you create something real? I thought you were pretty ballsy.
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Yep, I'm a big matrix fan as well. It's on my profile.
Man against machine.
How ironic!
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gentlewind, Thank you for talking to sree. You seem to have infinite patience.
Initially I was dying to see this thread end. Now it got interesting.
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That's a good way to broach the subject of the 6 senses,...which do not, and cannot, see things as they are,...thus only an illusion of free will. People who live solely out of the 6 senses for their identity are indeed "cattle like" or Sheeple,...barely human,...
I always wonder what you think of your mom?
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I practiced the eye-crossing for some weeks. The most evident effect is the relaxation of the third-eye area, but it seems to have negative outcome for the actual eyesight in some way.
I should investigate a bit more.
Thank you joeblast! :-)
Yep, Joelbast is the technician.
Did you strain your eyes too much? I have this bad habit of abusing my eyes.
Some rememdy.
1. Don't stare hard. It's a soft gaze. When I feel the stingy on my eyes, I relax my facial muscle more.
2. Rub my hands until it's warm, I cup my closed eyes for a few minutes.
3. Eye Qi Gong. It only takes five minutes.
4. Rolling my eyes regularly, up, down, left, right, clockwise and counter clockwise.
5. Massage my head and neck.
6. Alternate nostril breathing. I think it's the same muscle control the eye movement.
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Also, Is there a way to integrate kundalini into your life so your not always blissed out and in spiritual land? Ive done all the grounding methods such as walking, not panicking, eating heavier and meaty... I think this stuff has really helped me get it under control, Are there any other things I can do?
Nice to meet all of you BTW = )
Nice to meet you too. I had two K episodes in the last two years.
After the first one, I lost my job, my house and my gf.
I had to support my kids. I faked to be normal and got another job in a different country.
Then another K came up to send me into hospital again.
Out of hospital, I was determined to keep my job for I know if I lost that one, I'd probably go real crazy, or ended up in a monastery.
The office washroom was my sanctuary. whenever I felt "crazy", I locked myself inside the stool booth. I'd experiment all kind of stuff to keep me "normal", breathing exercises, Qi Gong movement, silent mantra, silent lion roar, writing down my crazy thoughts (writting on paper seems to have different effect than typing into computer). Then I went back to work.
God bless my collegues and my managers. They are very nice to me.
I alos work during weekends to pick up my slacks.
Somehow, I survived, step by step, day by day.
I can't say I have it under control. But I still have my job, enjoy life sometimes, and trying to figure out the mystery of all this.
Good luck.
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Yes I'm glad you recognize that state Tolle is in, it's a great indicator of a true teacher, the only other 2 people I've found in youtube videos who express that state are Papaji and Isaac Shapiro. Both seem like they are in ecstacy at times, laugh inappropriately, and are channeling a freaking river of blissenergy out their skulls. Papaji passed on, he had a number of teachers who claim lineage but he never really announced a true successor. Mr. Shapiro was his student and authorized him to teach. He flies from Australia to Germany and occaisonally California for satsang. His teachings are wholly tied to being present in the Now and not thinking, like Tolle and Papaji. These people do not seem to be able to plan for the future anymore, the energy is everything, I think it is addicting and they constantly feel like they are rolling on MDMA (you said you haven't done drugs, but the blissed state is the same, but not dirty or stimulating). For full disclosure, psychedelics in my teens (an LSD overdose) I think prompted my root chakra activation. After many false heatattacks from heart chakra pain, and partial paralysis from K gone amok, I rebooted my whole energy system with a mushroom overdose, which blasted my heart chakra open, ripped through my skull, and permanently changed me. The kundalini never stops from its progression from tailbone to crown now and I feel like I'm finely vibrating all the time. I rarely sleep because of the supercharged feeling, and fear of my condition oscillates the width of my heart chakra. The bliss energy radiant Love now-ness want to charge out my heart and erase my ego but I'm afraid to let it, and it's a struggle to maintain enough fear to maintain a mind able to function in a Fear-based society, with units of currency as $ecurity from starvation and homelessness.
If you let the bliss take over like Papaji and Tolle you have to give control of your life away, you will be dependant on your friends or relatives to keep a roof over your head as Religion and Love and God is all you can think about, talk about, and do. Love is the energy of consciousness, and fear is what your mind is made of. Every thought is a plan for the future based on discontent of the present. The big question then is that the point of it all, to get into that state? You will become like a babe in an adult world, having no fear only Love. I think Tolle, Papaji, Mr. Shapiro, and others like them have handlers to keep their body safe while they are trapped/released into the permanent Now. I'm constantly tettering on the edge and I have no one to help me, my wife needs to retire, I have child support, I barely make rent as it is. Where I'm at now is trying to see how much Love I can live in without being erased, and stopping when it imapairs my job performance. I'll probably start playing the lottery or writing a book, I don't know if I'll every be able to focus enough to get a degree now in the state I'm in.
Regarding the microcosmic orbit, I haven't tried it it seemed esoteric without having a live teacher and I'd already recklessly modified my energy permanentlly by use of serotonergics. (the blissed out state isn't dopamine and water, it's serotonin) If I don't find a way to sleep properly soon I plan to go the SFQ route (sorry Dorian!) as pythagoreanFL seems to know a number of people with roaring rivers of energy who can still function. Or I may just focus entirely on metta meditation like a wise poster suggested and entirely let go. One side effect of overactive K is physical reality seems less and less real, at this point I think its just a more static, heavy version of the dreamworld. Spirits arrange tests there and here just the same, synchronicity never stops and everything measures the mettle of your heart. Papaji taught everything is a dream your mind creates, but was confused why the world didn't dissappear when he awakened. I think now the dream and waking world are a testing ground for teaching empathy through suggestion and force, and when you are cured of your egoity you are let free. I think theres a cosmic society on the Outside of Dream and Waking where everyone is enlightenened and here is where those sick with fear of Love are sent. When we are cured we will be let out, and our dream guides watch our progress. Neo-Platonicism suggests something of this, I think the Demiurge/Archons may be our therapists.
The writings above are what kundalini run wild will produce. Religion constantly charges through your mind and daily financial requirements, household maintenance, and future planning go out the window. With the V-shaped field above your head I think your crown is cracking and the energy will be extremely apparent in the near future. I have the electricity feeling in my teeth as well, and regarding the complexion question, I'm in my mid thirties and look like I'm in my late teens/early 20's, but I'm a health nut and take alot of antioxidants and eat a paleo-pescetarian diet and get practically no sun. Regarding the colors, shapes, entities question your dreams will get unbelievable and their character-caliber testing nature will be very obvious, you will get lots of Astral attention. Your synchronicity will get unbelievably frequent till you doubt your sanity, and what I've noticed recently is people who are "compromised" (entirely fear driven, ego-based) will try very hard to upset your equilibrium, I call the anger tests. People like these I think are easily possessed by the sentient Fear energy, it will go to unbelievable lengths to try and stop the outpouring of Love coming through you. Also you will be pulled into other peoples synchronicty and will find yourself a suprised player in their karmic evolution. I haven't had visions, I don't hear voices, and I don't hallucinate. Also the bliss doesn't take over unless you let it, but if you don't you will feel constant heavy pressure in your chest.
These are my honest experiences and revelations I have experienced, I kind of expect to get attacked here after being so honest and I don't want to have to defend every insight I've been given but if thats the will of the spirits so be it. I wish you nothing but the best CM, the road ahead of you is VERY rocky and rarely travelled, be careful what advice you listen to (including mine, I've been wrong before) unless you feel in your heart it is valid. Many people will talk about knowing all about this energy but they never seem to mention the world-rocking ego-shattering brink-of-madness effects it creates. There is a site kundalini.se which seems pretty solid, I'd recommend checking that out for more advice. Also feel free to PM me anytime for advice when the going gets rough. I don't have all the answers but I'm about 2 years ahead of you in the enfolding/outpouring stage and I know how lonely it can be.
You answered your own question.
I've had some kundalini experiences. I understand your frustration and loneliness which echo mine. Whatever path you take is good.
Everyone is a buddha if you treat him like one.
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The underline hardware and mechanism of producing thoughts are in our genes. The human genes are products of millions/billions years of evolution.
It's unrealistic and naive to believe that will power alone can change all that in a single life time.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/14/health/lifeswork-eric-kandel-memory
"For decades, Kandel has studied how we create short-term and long-term memories at the molecular level. His work has shown what genes are changed during the learning process, how these genes are altered and how the changes contribute to the growth of new connections in the brain."
"But the remarkable thing that Darwin discovered is that evolution is very conservative. If it finds through natural selection that some set of mechanisms work, it tends to retain those mechanisms in perpetuity. And this is what one finds with the learning process"
Break loose your lock bone and spread open your wing bone.
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This post is a feel good self congratulation disguised as helpful information.
Finally I can feel the qi flowing from my neck down to the tip of my fingers after a year of daily work.
I had my shoulder totally frozen up due to years of inproper usage. I could do over fifty dips on parallel bar and one hand push up. But I couldn't scratch my own back. My shoulder was a solid mass.
The calvicle bone is called "lock" bone in Chinese. It locks up the wing bone (scapula) so you can't fly.