Jeramiah Zeitigeist

Wow !

Sifu William Henderson knows his Bagua !

I could feel the energy moving slightly in my own body, just watching that video.

Thanks for sharing, Sifu Terry.

Can anyone here either move chi into someone else or make someone's own chi get stirred up in them to the point that they know it was definitely chi and not just a placebo?

Yes.As an example, the poor person who dropped round to borrow a book, last week.I accidentally blasted her with chi from 10-15 feet away. She had no idea what I was doing, so didn't know to expect anything. Instant and severe 'sunstroke' symptoms for two days. Severe headache, nausea, bad eyes, dizzy and floaty. Said it felt like being punched. She definitely knew about it. I've met a few people who can do it.

I think the fastest route would be to get a top university to do a study on measuring how qi projection influences individual cells. If you could for example have a Harvard study showing how qi projection shrinks cancer cells then it could be a game changer.

You can absolutely guarantee that will not be what happens.

To quote a leading British cancer specialist, in direct conversation with me, in his office, last summer;

"I don’t need to tell you that, you know all too well. There is no honesty in the cancer world. I should know. It’s been my life for thirty years"

And to quote an influential cancer researcher, who spoke to me, face to face, in the spring of this year;

"I have no doubt healing works, and works very effectively too. But I have no model to place it into. So I won’t be able to understand the results of the study. I know it will show healing is highly effective, as I have looked at it before. But I will look foolish if I prove something works, without having a mechanism to explain it by. You won’t find anyone willing to study your work. Not because it doesn’t work. But because we don’t know what to do with the result.”

I would suggest Frantzis' DVD's on the topic.

 

A bit pricey, yes. But worth every dollar. He goes into GREAT detail.

 

It is a very complex posture. However (according to Frantzis) it is one of the BEST postures to build a vast reserve of chi, whether you want that for health or for martial arts.

Agreed !

Its the best resource on the San Ti stance. He doesn't leave anything out.

I use 100/0 weight distribution.

Its a very complex stance that takes several years to learn correctly. Especially considering the vision aspect, where you look with the back' of your eyes, so everything is in perfect focus. And the breathing techniques, drawing energy from you hand to nose, then down to LDT.

I may be wrong, but i believe it has never been videoed or written down, for training purposes. Not by any authorised teacher. So unless you learn from an authorised teacher, you can't learn it at all.

Also there are two kinds of men you can never trust. Those who don't drink - and those who practice the horse stance.

Surely the best quote of the year ?

Hello Steve and Adrian,

 

I'm not sure if I posted this account previously, but back in 1977 or 1978, when I was living in the Los Feliz hills of Los Angeles, one very,very foggy night I was practicing Tao Tan Pai Qigong called "Circling Palms" standing in a horse-riding stance on my carport when I heard the pitter--patter of little animal feet cross the road above my driveway, and then come down the driveway that was to my left. The fog was thick as soup and I could not see more than 6 feet in any direction. The sound of animal footsteps ceased. Then i saw emerge from the white fog a little black animal head. And then shoulders and front legs then part of its torso. But I couldn't make out what type of animal it was. It was too big for squirrel, definitely not a rabbit (which were very common there). Then he walks a few more steps from left to right in my field of vision and i see emerge from the misty fog this large black plume of tail that seemed longer than the length of the animal's body--and has a big white stripe running down its the length. I very coolly continued to do the circling palms but couldn't help keeping an eye on my visitor. He came closer...right up to my left knee. I glanced down at him and it was at that point that I recall that I actually prayed: "Oh Lord, please don't have this skunk spray me". After sniffing my knee for a second, nature's Qigong Master, Pepe la Pieu, finished his inspection of my form and vanished into the fog, trotting down the steps to the right and away into the brush. I thanked God for answering my small request.

 

Sifu Terry

Luckily there are no skunks in the UK !

I do much of my practice in the garden, which looks onto a river, and ancient woodland beyond. In the last few months I have had various birds come land very close and watch me. Typically they are just normal garden birds, who will sit within an arms reach and watch. Recently, though, I have had a woodpecker, which are rare and quite shy of humans, and amazingly, a Kingfisher. These are especially shy, and most British people have never seen one. So 'something' draws them close to a human practicing Qigong.

Late last year, I had a mouse regularly come to my feet, which practicing ZZ.

A few days ago, amazingly, I had a mole come to my feet. My practice was interrupted for twenty minutes as I sat and watched him. He crawled across the lawn and snuffled around my feet, looking for food, I assume. Despite living my life in the country, I have never seen a live mole. He had no fear of me. It was an incredible experience. Not at all usual or normal.

So yes....Qigong, and especially the FP energy, is irresistible to animals.

Hi TLB: yes, I owned 2 Gosami books and read very little of them and soon gave them away. I think it was just too heady for me. I want to comment on your cats reacting to the energy they sense from FP. I believe I have shared this already with Sifu Terry perhaps via email. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi who brought Transcendental Meditation to the West kept getting reports from people who did TM that their dogs and cats loved to be in the same room when they meditated. I know that my dog in the 1970's had to be shaken at times to wake her up after I finished meditating since she went into this unusually deep slumber. Maharishi eventually created research based on these experiences and found that one person doing TM creates brainwave coherence in 99 other people who don't even meditate. He called it the One Percent Effect and major replicated research documented this on a large scale, even sending groups of TMers into current war zones and then documenting that the wars decreased when they increased the usual number of meditation sessions per day. We were told not to pet our dogs and cats right after meditating because some of that energy would transfer directly to the pet! I suspect the furry ones are not seeking affection, but the direct energy from these subtle energy methods such as FP and deep meditation. My dog knew the word meditation and would race ahead of me to the bedroom when I told her let's go meditate. I have been enjoying reading about Taoist meditation via "The Secret of the Golden Flower." I would have no clue what it is describing if it was not for my experiences from TM and the genius level of teaching from Maharishi. It is an amazing book that I read at least 30 yrs ago but it is so much more understandable reading it now. Tonite I will order Evan-Wentz book since if Sifu Terry recommends it,then I know it is going to be a trip! I have several of the books from Sifu's recommended reading list and they are treasures. Just one more reason to be grateful for how much Sifu Terry continues to give to us.

Steve

Hi Steve

Fascinating post. Thanks for your continuing contribution to the thread.

I have noticed, as a healer, that cats will always make a determined effort to get as close as possible to healing. If I do a home visit, and a cat is present, it will literally tear a door down to get to me, and be close while I am healing. I think cats are very attuned to healing energy, and resonate with it, hence its attraction. As FP is a healing art, I would assume it has the same effect, and TM must be the same.

Interestingly, my Doberman completely respects my personal space while I meditate or practice FP. He stays a respectful distance away, and walks around quietly until the session finishes. But he knows exactly when its finished, even if I don't move, indicating to me that he feels the energy, and reacts to it.

Hello to Fu_dog, TLB, Tao Mist, and Jeramiah Z, sbtl nrg, and others.

 

**Also, a very useful and profound guide to meditation is found in the section of the W.Y. Evans-Wentz book, "Tibetan Yoga and Secret Doctrines", titles "Precepts of the Gurus." This book, btw, is required reading for all my students (even though I teach Taoist meditative disciplines).**

 

Good practicing!!

 

Sifu Terry Dunn

Well, I have just ordered this book, so looking forward to receiving it. The reviews on Amazon look interesting !

In other news;

I was practising Wind Through the Tree Tops this morning, after a nice warm up on the first four standing meditations from Volume One. As I worked with it, I literally felt a breeze of energy blow through me. 'Breeze' was the perfect word to describe it. It was strong enough for me to marvel at the experience, for a while afterwards. It wasn't a flow, or the usual feeling of energy movement. It really was a breeze.

Then it occured to me, that the name is perhaps a hint to that experience.

So is it named, in an inscrutable Chinese fashion, with the name bearing no relationship to the practice, or does Wind Through the Tree Tops actually describe the experience of this 'inner breeze' ?

Interesting !

I love FP !

^^^ Fixed that for you...

Like it !

 

Mainly I'm trying to bust through the precept that athletes can't have artistic insight, and the inverse, that artists can't possess great physical will and determination. Are there any specific recommendations anyone out there can offer that might help? Thanks!

 

EDIT: This should be in the General forum. Apologies!

But this precept is just nonsense anyway. It has no foundation in truth or reality, like the belief by people who have never attended university, that those with a degree have no common sense. Your precept is a construct. its a belief, and a belief is not based on fact. You have created a model to understand something. But a model is just a version of reality, that you use to understand reality. The model is not truth.

Only the individual matters. And as we are all individuals, we can all embrace whatever lifestyle we want, and be creative, athletic, spiritual or whatever.

So I think trying to 'bust through' a false precept is the wrong motivation. Ego perhaps ? Who are you trying to prove it to ?

Just be.

I've been a professional athlete, training intensively for five hours a day for extended periods. I saw no impact on my creativity, or spiritual pursuits. Its what you want it to be. My sport is aggressive and brutal. Very yang. But I believed it was just one facet of my existence, and that proved to be true.

just be.

I want to add a huge thanks for all the discussions and teachings regarding the involuntary movements and swayings that occur while doing the meditations. Letting go of the attempt to hold a "perfect posture" is turning the standing exercises into something akin to dancing with the trees. (I've only just come back to this in the past couple of weeks, so I'm sticking with volume 1 for awhile...or until Sifu Terry tells me I should move on or expand.) What a joyful experience it becomes.

tb

When I practiced Shaolin Qigong, as taught my GM Wong Kiew Kit, he called it self manifested Chi movement, or Swaying Willows and Flowing Breeze.

For me, the movements I get with the standing forms of FP feels exactly the same, although I know that the energy from the Shaolin practice itself feels completely different to the energy from FP. And it travels through the body in a different way too. But the manifestation of the movement feels the same.

While doing the Monk Holds Pearl, a few days ago, I swayed sideways, to and fro, very powerfully, with my hips describing a sideways figure of eight, and my upper and lower body following. This continued for 15 minutes and felt fantastic.

Joyful is certainly the word.

Dear Jeramiah,

 

It is only now that I have gotten to read your posting regarding the golden light thoroughly. When I read it a few days earlier, I was beset with pressures and deadlines and read your post so fast that I missed one very key sentence:

 

"I live in the depths of the countryside. There is no artificial light."

 

--and missing these statements caused me at first to think that your seeing a golden light was a physiological effect of the intense hour-long practice of the FP seated meditations. As stated earlier in this thread, my students and I have seen the distinctive blue light of the FP Healing Energy with eyes closed in the inner environment and with eyes opened as a very visible aura.

 

However, your description--and I assume to be true and authentic--is of a golden light visiting and illuminating your room, and not a physiological effect of the FP Exercises. This is indicated since you described going out into the night and seeing nothing but darkness and rain, and then returning to your room where the light had by then had disappeared.

 

What you have described is indeed extraordinary and my gestalt reasoning is that you were possibly channeling a lesson from a source of genius through your dreamstate. Especially since you've since stated that you went to sleep around midnight and the dreamwork took place for some 3 hours and exhausted you mentally. This is something that has happened to me and my classmates on a constant basis (sans the mental exhaustion) when we started practicing GM Doo Wai's internal arts (FP Qigong and other systems). (I think I wrote in earlier post that on one occasion, one particular classmate and I "switched" our normal mode or "format" of dreams with each other, which was one of the wildest, wierdest, and most fascinating phenomenon I had ever experienced in my life. Since you said you fell asleep and dreamt/worked with a Chinese man teaching you some form of Taoist Alchemy, if this was not an imagining, or a "wishful-thinking dream", but you were actually working--and working so intensely that you woke up with your head swirling, then it is quite possible that the FP Meditations may have catalyzed this channeling of knowledge/spiritual visitation. But the only way to be sure is for you to recall what you learned through the dreamstate and then to test the knowledge as to its effectiveness and potency. Until the "transmitted" knowledge is verified, one cannot say what actually was going on with you from midnight til 3am that night. But the more perfected your Qigong and Meditation, the more lucid you will be during such dreamstates. Also, doing effective lucid dreaming exercises (as detailed in the Carlos Castaneda books) will develop your ability to be conscious of all the content of your dreams in real time, enable real-time cognizant control of your dream body's behavior in a dream, and,of course, allow easy recall of your dreams after the dream ends.

 

If, on the other hand, you had gone to sleep earlier, say at 8 or 9pm, then what you described could have been an early morning venting dream (which is the mind's normal house-keeping--i.e., disposing o stress, overload, and conflicts that the mind didn't resolve during waking hours). But this does not explain the mysterious golden light bright enough to read by, which came and then left.

 

Assuming that your account of what you is accurate in every way, I believe that you had a visitation.

 

All in all, because of the unique personal power that I assume you have developed over the years through healing so many thousands of people,that mysterious and fleeting golden light may have been a sign accompanying your higher edification by a spiritual entity (that seers typically call an angel or a genie). The golden light may well be the carpet upon which your genie delivering your alchemy lesson rode in on. But only you know for sure.

 

Congratulations.

 

In cautious awe and reverence,

 

Sifu Terry Dunn

 

 

P.S. And yes, "Monk Holding Peach" is a very unusual Qigong exercise. It is unlike anything in any of the other 3 Qigong systems I have inherited. (btw, have you gotten to the phenomenon in MHP where the body rapidly folds forward at the waist and then bouncs back up to vertical, repeatedly? My nickname for Monk Holding Peach is "The Jerusalem Meditation" because the involuntary movements of the upper body bending forward and whipping back to vertical makes one looks as if one is praying at the Wailing Wall. I've observed this in my own practice and in my students ever since 1992. Monk Holding Peach is just very, very different from any type of Qigong exercise--even from all others within the Bok Fu Pai tradition: in terms of stance, posture, configuration, and, of course, breathing rhythm. However it works, I'm glad it's working well for you.

Sifu Terry

Thank you so much for your opinions and tentative interpretation of the events that night. Very interesting, and thought provoking.

I have no way of knowing for sure, what happened. The 'waking' dream, as I would call it, was a very powerful experience. It has stayed with me, ever since, as if it just happened. I can clearly remember the teacher's face. Every detail. Interestingly, I rarely remember a dream. Its as if I go completely 'off line" as soon as I close my eyes. I would remember a dream perhaps once a year. So this was a completely different thing.

What was most profound, i think, from my perspective, was the quality and feel of the golden light. It wasn't just light. The room was thick with a feeling of peace and serenity. It was as if I could touch, even hold the light, like a warm blanket. The light was tangible, as a 'thing', rather than just light. If pushed, and upon reflection, it was as if the light was consciousness itself, as if the light was the message.

The secret being hidden in plain sight ?

Anyway, its something for me to think about, meditate on, and reflect on, over the next few months and years, whenever it comes to my mind, or whenever seems appropriate, and perhaps it will eventually make sense, or its significance or otherwise will become apparent.

In the meantime, I do think it was as a result of my FP work.

Agreed. Monk Holding Peach feels unique to me. I experimented, a few days ago, with 45 minutes, just in MHP, to see how the energy developed, and then relaxed again. I do get the folding forward at the waste, I don't go as far as having my back parallel with the ground, but it can be quite powerful and dramatic. It always feels good, though ! Currently, of all the meditations on the first three DVDs, MHP is the one I feel most attached to. I get something different from each of them, but MHP is currently the most sublime. So misleadingly simple, yet profound. The secret is often revealed at the start ? Although perhaps that would be MGM, or is it MGM, MHP and MHP together, working on all three Dantiens, that is the key ?

Or maybe thats completely wrong. i'll get back to you after thirty years of practice, and maybe i'll understand a little more !

Thank you.

"Sucks"

Yes it does. I have faced this all my career. But what is so very funny (at least I thought it at the time) was that these same preachers would come to my clinic for pain relief. Baptist, Methodist, Episcopalian, Catholic, and other. Most didn't want to talk about the medical qigong but all sure wanted to receive it.

 

I also have a friend who is an ex-Baptist preacher. He can quote multiple translations of the bible forwards, backwards, any which way. He practices Stillness-Movement neigong. So some preachers are open to change; both the guy you know and the one I know were a part of those desiring change.

I have taught at several Unitarian churches over the years; in general much more open to energetics.

 

Edit: Most people do not know that my book was edited by a Christian theologian.

Agreed. I have experienced and witnessed exactly the same, within my own practice in Britain.

Taiji and Bagua training will give you everything you need, and more.

ChiDragon speaks the truth.

JZ - Wishing you much good fortune with the FP UK workshop. What great energetics you folks will experience!

Thank you, Rainbowvein !

More good news, Sifu Dunn will also be available for private lessons during his time in Britain.

Awesome that your setting this up!

Exciting times indeed !

As Sifu Terry has commented, on the Flying Phoenix Chi Kung thread, and I have seen when running my own healing workshops, group training seems to magnify the energy and create much greater effects than individual training. So learning in the workshop environment will enhance everyones experiences. Its a chance not to be missed !

I'm interested too!

 

Anybody in the Glastonbury area would be well-advised to check out the Stanton Drew stone circles too. Near Chew Magna just south of Bristol. Moi babbers.

 

Rich

Stanton Drew has a very good energy. I like it there. Not as busy as some sites, so room to be quiet and soak up the energy. Very small car park, though, so at special times of the year, parking is impossible.

Glastonbury has the most palpable energy out of anywhere I have been in the world, some say it is one of the earth's main energy centres along with Mt Kailash and Lake Titicaca which is why it has been a place of spiritual pilgrimage for many different faiths for thousands of years. I would love to do Qigong there one day, they should do a Stillness Movement course one day there too.

 

I did a meditation in Avebury one time, I didn't feel that much but it might be worth practising there while it is completely open and not fenced off like Stone Henge is as one day they will commercialise it, but I felt stronger energy in the Glasonbury Tor Well gardens to be honest, you can drink the spring water which comes out red and highly charged with energy.

This is why we chose Glastonbury for one of the workshops.

The energy is fantastic. Its my homeland and I know it well. I think its the most consistently powerful place in Britain, and certainly equal to, or greater than anywhere I have been in the world. We decided it was the perfect place to learn Flying Phoenix Chi Kung, and the perfect compliment to the sublime Flying Phoenix Chi Kung energy.

hi there

this is great news for us u.k followers

just curious what people are doing for accomodation ?

really intrested in the glastonbury one , been meaning to get to glasto for ages

and what better excuse than to learn with sifu terry

imagine the energy doing it in the middle of avebury !

Many good B and B in the Glastonbury area. Also some decent small hotels. No shortage of accommodation. And much of it is orientated towards 'spiritual' visitors.

I'll try to organise a list of places over the next few weeks. Although they are probably all on the net.

Just started Sarangel 'Riding the windhorses'. It seems interesting so far.

Its about Mongolian/Siberian shamanism, including some rituals and practises too.

I have read that. I thought it was very good.

Looks like a very interesting book. I might get that myself.

If you read through the Flying Phoenix Chi Kung thread, you'll come across quite a few mentions of Hermetic practices, and a very interesting post about Crowley. Sifu Terry Dunn is a Taoist, but I believe is also involved in the study and practice of other traditions, including hermetics. I don't see any problem in exploring other cultures and traditions.....I think Osho said that Taoism was the ultimate rebellion.....so not something with strict rules and regulations.

I think most, if not all, of these traditions spring from the same source, so we can drink what we like, and then assess it through our own personal encounter.

Another great Master passes. An enormous loss to his friends, family, students, and to those of us who will never meet him, or learn from him.

So even more important now, that his work is perpetuated by the people he entrusted to pass on his knowledge. It must have been a great privilege to have known him.

I bow to honour his memory.