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You'll have to excuse my ignorance of the Kunlun system...so I have a few questions.
My background is in Wudang internal cultivation as passed down from generation to generation at Wudang to my master and then to my generation so I really haven't practiced any others.
As it sounds, Kunlun is much different from the methods I'm used to as in it seems that there is much attachment to the sexual desire and gratification in the Kunlun method. I'm probably getting that mangled but is that true?
It seems that although you play the importance of generating energy, it would leak through the emotional desire and attachment to the actual method thereby still losing "jing" essence.
I just would like to know about Kunlun since it seems a lot of posts here are about it.
Thanks and Tao Bless,
Wudangspirit
I just had a cool experience and thougth I would share it with Tao Bums.
I practice some kunlun level 1 and 2, leisurely and with short breaks for about an hour and a half this morning. I decided to follow the practice with some sexual kung-fu.
I opened my mind and boy to buddha-nature, and began masturbating. It was a typical session of sexual energy rising and circulation, very pleasant initself... and then I went to my sink and started running the faucet. The running water was sexing me! I was sexing it! my conciousness, in some way I can't really explain, surrendered to the running water in my sink. It was absolutely orgasmic. Perhaps I could say, 'I shared my being' with the running water. I even reached for it, and seemed to fondle it, however without really touching it.
My buddha-nature and experience seemed greatly amplified afterwards. (I hesitate to mention this, but perhaps it is important to the experience,) but I looked into my eyes in the mirror and considered myself a 'dragon' for the experience with the water. .. oh, yes, my skin began to turn a bit red, and for a short while with goosebumps. The goosebumps were cool, and probably from the water.. The redness of the skin seems a usual experience with my SKF.
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I would not be surprised to udnerstand that the running water complimented my own energy, and perhaps my 'reaching for' and 'fondling' the running water was my absorbing, perhaps, the elemental qi of the running water to compliment my own energies. This could be a miraculous way of counteracting so much yang-fire I cultivate in my practice?
I am also reminded, and think I will share: guys, try going in the shower and scalding your balls (as hot as you can stand it,). Especially when you're feeling sexy. This provides, for me, an immediate rise in sexual energy for my bodies circulation. It is orgasmic, and sometimes better than sex. -this is an interesting note on how else water, (though really hot water,) influences my SKF practice.
I think I will be exploring this further in my practice =)
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The issue of Jing and losing it has been a topic for many years of those who cultivate. In my opinion and training, it is necessary to conserve jing. Now that can be done in many ways. One is through limiting the frequency of sexual acitivity. I say limiting not abstaining totally. The other is giving up the need for attachments such as ego, emotions etc.
Taoism has strict rules to follow if you want to follow the immortality path. Those rules shouldn't be taken lightly. However, everything in moderation to live a normal, long life. It's about following your nature and your intent. If your intent is to follow a strict Taoist path and transmute jing to qi and qi to shen and become immortal and raise the spirit then you have to follow the rules. It's pretty simple.
However, don't look for shortcuts and exceptions. There are none.
Wudangspirit
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Lost Monk,
My wife is actually from the city of Guangzhou. It's a city in the south not far from Hong Kong. I've been there and to other places in China several times on business. I've seen all aspects of China. China is actually quite free in daily dealings and have a higher standard of living than we do here, especially in big cities. So, don't believe the crappy propaganda that the Western press is spitting out. It's bogus.
We only see and believe what the cultural revolution has show us. China has changed 200% since then. It's actually great place to live now.
Wudangspirit
On another forum I belong to, someone made a post, and I would love to be able to give himan answer from the actual Chinese perspective.
Please forgive the fact he is a bit ignorant.
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Lin,
You are 100% correct. In "Modern" Taoism there is more emphasis on the physical practice. However, traditional teachings tell us there has to be complete balance on spiritual and physical. You have to keep your physical body strong in order to house a good spirit. You have to cultivate your spirit otherwise your body will leak yuan qi and die.
Taoism spends a great deal of time on cultivating spirit. The ideas of ego, true self, reality and detachment from desires and mundane post heaven pleasure. I think in my opinion, there should be more taught on these key elements. I know that true initiates into Taoism by Taoist priests do have these teachings. I think we should open those teaching up more.
Great comments!
Tao Bless amd Amituofu
Wudangspirit
Buddhism's Jing Qi Shen is simple:
Precepts, Samadhi and Wisdom.
Precepts cultivate the Jing, store the yuan qi from wasting( wasting through day-dreaming,false thinking basically sexual indulgence to extremes, and controlling desires through understanding their origin.).
Samadhi transforms such jing to Qi, through concentration and cultivation of the mind and body; By the not wasting of one's essence, they will hav the strength and will to uphold the states through concentration. This will naturally transform one's mind: Jing, Qi.
Wisdom is the outcome of purifying the heart and mind through seeing that all desires, emotions and views are actually false (it would be seen as an outcome of attaining true wisdom), thus leading to a vibrant body, resulting in a long life, as well as attaining true spiritual wisdom, unaltered wisdom.
Peace and Blessings,
Lin
P.S.- Daoism, seen as different doesn't make you more Immortal, or having more abilities. In views of separation, ego arises, views of ego, a self, living beings, and a life span...thus leading to arrogance, anger, greed and ignorance.
Buddhism cultivates the Buddha in the Heart, which results in attaining Buddhahood, which is complete in wisdom, and spiritual abilities. And is definetly not what most people ASSUME it is.
Daoism cultivates the Dan Tian; to attain immortality and eventually attain enlightenment. The problem is, there is less focus on virtue and moral practice in "Modern" Daoism, and more focus on spiritual abilities and longevity, which doesn't lead one to enlightenment right away../actually it slows one down.
The fact is, if the mind is pure, everything is pure. Attaching to views only caises more afflictions. THat is not true cultivation of the Way.
All of the Qigong and Neigong and Spiritual abilities will do no good if one still has ignorance as their friend, greed as the father and anger as the mother. One will only remain ignorant, and stuck in their own conditions.
Basically, upholding the view of differences only causes more arguing in the long run, views of arrogance, and self, ego. Its not worth it. It doesn't make one a better cultivator.
Instead, look at the similarities, and how they actually speak very similar teachings to an extent. This way, more people will want to learn about them, and begin a proper foundation of Educational Cultivation.
If all people see is bickering about which is better, then they will only remain confused, and become arrogant fools.
If one can not tell, through wisdom mind, the differences of expedients as expedients, then they should not comment frivolously about expedients. It only creates more karma of the mouth and mind... not fun.
As such, living beings will only understand as much as they have the capacity for.
Peace,
Lin
*** I had added one word to the 3rd paragraph after the "P.S." I put it in quotations: "Modern"
Lin,
You are 100% correct. In "Modern" Taoism there is more emphasis on the physical practice. However, traditional teachings tell us there has to be complete balance on spiritual and physical. You have to keep your physical body strong in order to house a good spirit. You have to cultivate your spirit otherwise your body will leak yuan qi and die.
Taoism spends a great deal of time on cultivating spirit. The ideas of ego, true self, reality and detachment from desires and mundane post heaven pleasure. I think in my opinion, there should be more taught on these key elements. I know that true initiates into Taoism by Taoist priests do have these teachings. I think we should open those teaching up more.
Great comments!
Tao Bless amd Amituofu
Wudangspirit
Buddhism's Jing Qi Shen is simple:
Precepts, Samadhi and Wisdom.
Precepts cultivate the Jing, store the yuan qi from wasting( wasting through day-dreaming,false thinking basically sexual indulgence to extremes, and controlling desires through understanding their origin.).
Samadhi transforms such jing to Qi, through concentration and cultivation of the mind and body; By the not wasting of one's essence, they will hav the strength and will to uphold the states through concentration. This will naturally transform one's mind: Jing, Qi.
Wisdom is the outcome of purifying the heart and mind through seeing that all desires, emotions and views are actually false (it would be seen as an outcome of attaining true wisdom), thus leading to a vibrant body, resulting in a long life, as well as attaining true spiritual wisdom, unaltered wisdom.
Peace and Blessings,
Lin
P.S.- Daoism, seen as different doesn't make you more Immortal, or having more abilities. In views of separation, ego arises, views of ego, a self, living beings, and a life span...thus leading to arrogance, anger, greed and ignorance.
Buddhism cultivates the Buddha in the Heart, which results in attaining Buddhahood, which is complete in wisdom, and spiritual abilities. And is definetly not what most people ASSUME it is.
Daoism cultivates the Dan Tian; to attain immortality and eventually attain enlightenment. The problem is, there is less focus on virtue and moral practice in "Modern" Daoism, and more focus on spiritual abilities and longevity, which doesn't lead one to enlightenment right away../actually it slows one down.
The fact is, if the mind is pure, everything is pure. Attaching to views only caises more afflictions. THat is not true cultivation of the Way.
All of the Qigong and Neigong and Spiritual abilities will do no good if one still has ignorance as their friend, greed as the father and anger as the mother. One will only remain ignorant, and stuck in their own conditions.
Basically, upholding the view of differences only causes more arguing in the long run, views of arrogance, and self, ego. Its not worth it. It doesn't make one a better cultivator.
Instead, look at the similarities, and how they actually speak very similar teachings to an extent. This way, more people will want to learn about them, and begin a proper foundation of Educational Cultivation.
If all people see is bickering about which is better, then they will only remain confused, and become arrogant fools.
If one can not tell, through wisdom mind, the differences of expedients as expedients, then they should not comment frivolously about expedients. It only creates more karma of the mouth and mind... not fun.
As such, living beings will only understand as much as they have the capacity for.
Peace,
Lin
*** I had added one word to the 3rd paragraph after the "P.S." I put it in quotations: "Modern"
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WYG,
The Dan Tian "Elixir Field" is what it is. In one of the Wudang Qigong practices there is movement called creating or "making" the dan. I think building is the correct word.
It's something we're born with however, according to Taoist Alchemy theory, we lose our pre-heaven state after birth. Along with that we lose our knowledge of pre heaven concepts such as Dan Tian. So we have to still ourselves and rebuild. In other words refresh our post heaven memories.
This isn't easy and takes a step by step approach along with correct breathing and concentration or stillness.
Does this help or should I elaborate more on this?
Good subject.
Hi Guys,
I just read the Magus of Java book of Kosta about his teacher John Chang and i had alot of thinking to do about how they build the Dan Tian and or create one maybe a better word.
So far from all my years of training, reading and understanding that Dan Tian we all have and is one of our power sources. From training the chi kung, nei kung etc we can build more chi and then allow it to settle or return back to the root (dan tian).
John Chang says that we need to create one and fill it up! This has intruiged me and im looking for what others can understand and share about Dan Tian.
Do we need to create one?
Does the Dan Tian build upon itself as meditate and train chi kung naturally or do one needs to force or use intent to store the chi there?
I would like to read what other have to say about this if you would like to share your views.
WYG
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A Taoist thinks of how to get the hell out of the building before he/she gets burned.
hi everyone. this is a very interesting post and something i have had a difficult time figuring out also. i just have this one question (so far
) ... if a taoist finds him or herself in a dangerous situation, say in a burning building, what goes through the taoists head? of course we are all different and we dont always know how we would react in a situation like that. but i know for myself, right now, at this point in my life, i would be praying like crazy for God to help me lol. Now a taoist?...what might he/she be thinking/praying/etc?meg
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I have one problem with your comment on no difference between Tao and God theory...
Actually the big difference is in the follower. Taoists believe that we have total free will and we can make our own destiny and dreams happen through non-attachment and free ourselves from the mundane by cultivation. This concept is totally different from the Christian view of what "God" has in store for us. Tao is Tao because the name is within the concept. Tao "way" is just a name given to call it something. "God" in the Christian sense has been given an attached overall governing body.
As Taoist we attain"?" Tao by stillness in cultivation. No God or governing body does this for us. Yes we have a pantheon but those would probably be most related to the Catholic concept of "Saints".
Everyone has their Tao. Your Tao is YOUR Tao.
Wudangspirit
quote name='Taoist81' date='Jul 3 2008, 03:40 PM' post='68341']
But when a true Christian (i.e. one who really believes, not just in emergencies) prays, it is as Jesus taught, that is, "Thy will be done". Even Jesus subjected his petitions to God to "God's will". So in the end, there is no difference. A believer can pray for answers or health etc. all day long, and it will change nothing unless it is already God's will to do something. Similarly, a Taoist, following close to the Tao will see the "will" of the Tao carried out in his life. He may do an I Ching reading for answers, or perform a sacrifice to some deity, but in the end the Tao simply "is", just as God simply "is". Prayer and meditation are simply ways to bring the individual closer to the "divine". "I do not know its name. Call it Tao. For lack of a better word I call it Great." says Lao Tzu. Similarly in the deeper mystic traditions of the Abrahamic faiths, the highest concept of God that man can com close to imagining is titled "I am" or rather simply "Being". Beyond that is the Limitless and Nothing.
So, in the deepest ways, there is no difference between Tao and "God". In the baser forms of religion, there are differences in some ways, in that "god" would simply be lower than the Tao. No different than the many Taoist deities that one can petition for changes in your health or bank account.
Agree on some parts. True Taoism is self cultivation by transmuting Jing to Qi and Qi to Shen and Shen to Void to Tao.
The religion came later. However, as a practicing Taoist from the Wudang Longmen Neidan Pai Sect, we do have religious music and ceremonies but those are just ways of raising our spirits and bringing other spirits into our lives. Blessings.
Daoist religion is not true Dao! IMHO
Well put! Tao is Tao. God is God. In the Taoist world......"JUST WORDS! JUST WORDS"
What is called "the dao" is the potentiality, it is not manifest. Everything is manifest from it. It's not thinking. It's not pulling strings. It has no grand plan, or compassion, or purpose for anything. It is impartial. People grant the dao divinity or power only because they assume something powerful must have a higher purpose.
God is a concept, an icon, an idol. Something people make responsible for what they can't control. Something people can blame for things that don't go the way they wish they would.
There is no correlation between the dao and god.
Lin,
Well put and well respected answer. This is an answer of pure virtue
A being becomes a god through their merit and virtue. That which is called Dao, is just as it is, non-dual, and yet all things reside in it, as it. One the discriminating mind points to the direction, label, of "Dao". there is already a falsity, and thus separation begins...Yin and Yang. Those two are relative, and will be that way till the mind of relativity/duality is transformed.
When a cultivator of the way communicates with beings of the god-mind, it is not the manner in which Christians would. Though the God of the 33rd Heaven is the same god of Judeo-Christian faith, when asked for things, the methods are a bit different in Daoism. The only way to actually get a response is through a sincere heart, proper in virtue and moral.
The god of the 33rd Heaven, Judeo-Christian god, in Daoism is none other than the Jade Emperor; Yu Huang Da Di. Hindu and Buddhist schools; Shakra Indra.
Peace,
Lin
The difference of Christian and Taoist Concepts....
Christians believe through their good actions on earth according to what Jesus has taught them they can "go" to heaven.
As Taoist we believe by cultivation, virtue and purifyng by non-attachment we can "grow" into heaven and become one as heaven.
I am not sure that I understand this clearly.
It is my understanding that the cultivator of the way is attempting to become one with the way and transcend the duality of ying-yang relativity, which you have stated clearly above.
However you then proceed to discuss the circumstance of a cultivator of the way attempting to communicate with beings of the god-mind, and how virtue, sincerity and concentration are necessary to get an actual response.
Now it seems to me a cultivator of the way in the first case, who is attempting directly to overcome the error of a dualistic mindset, is at a different 'level' than one who attempting to communicate with a 'separate' being of the god-mind since discrimination is implied in this act.
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Taomeow explanation is correct according to the oral traditions of Taoism for sure. I'll help you look into any documented forms. This topic is very fascinating. At Wudang there are a couple of very traditional I Ching Masters still on the mountain. I'll ask my lineage uncle, Zhong Yun Long, to see if this can be explained. My Master Yun Xiang Tseng, may also know of it.
Tao Bless
Yes, of course I can explain how I have ascertained some doubt concerning wuxing theory...
fuxi devised the bagua from he tu (/luo shu?) Some sinologist experts claim that yin/yang theory was a product of the 'warring states' period, almost 1000 years after fuxi. Again, wuxing theory was developed seperately in eastern china, completely independent of I ching theory.
Many sinologists claim that the original form of the i ching, (the yijing?) was merely a compilation of omens, communicated in ancient chinese characters with very literal meanings.
If the above is true-- fuxi did not incorporate yin/yang into the original yijing. Again, if this is true... fuxi did not even devise the trigrams! (?!)
.. I am just so confused with all the conflicting accounts on the history of the i ching... some say that the '64 hexagrams are almost certainly of earlier origin than the trigrams'... (?!) The way they associate the 5 elements with the i ching seems faulty (earth cannot be balanced yin-yang, because that is tai-chi!)... a respectable taoist 'alfred huang' tells us that the taoist symbol and number school had to combine wuxing theory with the i ching, and because of the way they placed earth, it is obviously faulty to me.
I am still trying to really internalize taomeow's explanation. If he is correct about how the movement of the gua produce different qualities of qi... this is amazing to me because I have looked for a while and this will have been the first explanation I have found that seems satisfactory! I will have to think on this, and try and poke holes in it!
(PS, can you point me to any english literature explaining this in further detail..?)
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Don't forget about Liangyi in the direct translation and diagram....
Wuji - Taiji - Liangyi - Bagua
I will try and make crystal clear sense of this when I go home this evening and look at my books
but let me say a few things: as I udnerstand it, 'earlier heaven' or xiantian sequence was created by shao yong, who only attributed the xiantian sequence to fuxi's credit. (a common phenonema amongst chinese sholars, I guess..)
but I can imagine it now.. and yes, I xiantian is perfectly balanced, and I can udnerstand how it can be considered wu-chi. I will, however, have to take a close look at how the xiantian sequence arises out of the (he tu or lou shu? I'll find out...)
that manifestation begins with the third trigram is interesting, per the Tao te ching: 'one beget two, two beget three, three beget the 10,000 things'................. wu-chi -> Tai-chi.. wu-ji + Tai-Chi -> uh errr..... uhm.... if wu-ji is '1', tai chi '2'.... mmmmmm from wu-ji + tai-chi the 10,000 things manifest, that makes sense. nevermind about the 3rd trigram....
so somehow the 3rd trigram strikes imbalance into early heaven sequence, begining 'gua chaos'? I wonder how that is determined.. it is very important...
hmmm... it makes sense... yes.... I think I have it =) I think I understand! are you sure you can't explain it in different ways just to induce greater understanding? (if not, thats ok!) thank you so much!!
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As a practicing Taoist, you should respect the five elements as it is a practice of the Taoist culture. In the I Ching practice, yes they are different and separate. I was giving you a practical application in how they are really used. If you are just going by theories then you are correct they are separate. However there comes a time when you have to apply those theories.
As for TCM, you should look into that further because your diagnostic skills would be less than zero without the five element theory.
I Taoism the Wuxing theory explains how elements are created or restricted. I hardly can believe that you'd disregard this knowledge as false or non-existent. Maybe you could give me more detail of why you think this way.
In I Ching yes, there are 8 gua with 64 hexagrams and you can interpret the Earlier Heaven or the Later Heaven theories. However, to use them correctly is to use both because of their reasonings and situations. There is more to I Ching than theory and illustrations. You have to tap into the something beyond what's in front of your nose in order to see the true meanings. However, this can be done only after you have extinguished your ego and learned to theories inside and out.
Tao Bless
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Hope I don't intrude on the conversation...
From my studies and experience the two will go hand in hand when it comes to applications. The I Ching by iteself possesses a multitude of functions and usages. The Bagua or Eight Trigrams explains the correlations of the hexagrams and numerology.
If you take a deeper look at these numbers, they are used in many of the tradtional methods of feng shui, inner alchemy, astrology and more. According to Taoist practice, these are the numbers of heaven. They can be used to explain a lot. When used in feng shui they are combined with the Wuxing theory.
The I Ching masters also possess a certain amount of pre-heaven intuition. There are some things that cannot be explained.
At Wudang, where my lineage is from, those studying the I Ching also study Wuxing and all other aspects of numerolgy and taoist astrology.
Tao Bless,
Wudangspirit
Hi Guys =) If you read this, thank you very much!
I have been pursuing a bit of study into the I Ching, and I noticed that you two seem to be very knowledgeable in this area.
First, Li Jiong, how can I pursuade you to explain the significance of the modified 'tai-'chi' symbol you have used in your avatar? What does it mean?
Second, can either of you explain to me how the theory of the 5 elements correlates with the I Ching, he tu/lou shu? I do not see any correlation, and thus far do not believe that the two principles (of the gua, and of the wu xing,) correlate. I read in 'the numerology of the i ching' (by 'taoist master' alfred huang,) that the theory fo the 5 elements and of the i ching developed seperately, from two distinct cultures across china. 'taoist master' alfred huang also explained that it was the taoist 'number and symbol' school that tried to correlate the two systems.. (and thus, not fuxi.)
From what I saw from the number and symbol school, they failed (to me,) to convincingly merge the two systems.
Why can't I make sense of wuxing theory from gua theory?
I don't mean to offend or attack anyone.. But I am in pursuit of truth, and so I must remain skeptical until I find convinving evidence. thus far, I do not believe that fuxi came up with the theory of the 5 elements, and am do not fully believe that the modified tai-chi symbol is genuine.
I do not mean to call you a liar, li jiong! you have my greatest respect! please help me to learn!
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Chapter 19 reminds us of giving up our post heaven intelligence and to go back to our pure self so we can cultivate our pre-heaven energy.
This verse is an important step in Taoist cultivation.
Thanks for the reminder!
Wudangspirit
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We only know beauty as beauty because there is ugliness
We only know good as good because there is evil....
It is nature to have Yin/Yang balance. You cannot know these things unless you have a comparison in post heaven knowledge. In Taoism we try to learn to see things for what they truly are and not what we "think' they are by post heaven knowledge.
Try not to attach to these things or make judgments and tell yourself "they just are". You'll be able to float to the top of the whirlpool that drags most of us down.
This is a great topic and discussion.
Thanks for sharing.
Tao Bless,
Wudangspirit
It is a question that has been lingering in my mind for a long time and addressed in another forum. Different opinions were given but no consensus was reached. Maybe it will happen in here.
Ignorance, delusion, karma, demonic influence in our planet (
), dark side of Tao?Why a rotten apple spoils the whole basket and not vice versa? That is why a good apple will never cure a whole basket of rotten apples?
What is the ultimate reason?
Personally, it is something beyond my comprehension.
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WYG,
Zhang Sangfeng teachings are usually oral at Wudang. There are a lot of schools there that are said to teach original 13 postures and internal type arts. However, unless you are really in that sect you're not going to get the real oral traditional teachings that have been past down for 15 generations.
Once again I refer to my lineage uncle Zhong Yun Long and master Tseng Yun Xiang. They are the only surviving lineage holders of the Zhang Sanfeng Branch at Wudang that are able to transmit this knowledge. However, there are a few hermits in the mountains at Wudang who have this knowledge as well but it would be very hard for them to teach you.
You can try to learn forms from youtube as the others have discussed but you won't learn the essence of the teachings. My suggestion would be to sign up for Master Chen's seminar this summer in Atlanta as he is coming back from Wudang for that brief time to teach an intensive on these teachings. Then you can ask him in person to see if any of his students can carry on teaching you.
Good luck and Tao Bless,
Wudangspirit
Hi guys and gals,
Im looking for any books or www adresses that has any information on ZSF and his teachings, Also any forms of his that could be legit?
Is there ant books on his teachings?
WYG
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Kingfred,
Our practice at Wudang is the "kicking" method. You sit on the floor with legs crossed then grab the right foot with the left hand and extend the left using the right hand to keep the knee straight. You'll "kick" to the right, left, up and straight 27 times then repeat this on the opposite leg bringing in the leg each kick.
I hope this makes sense and helps. It helped me a lot and also helps your knees.
Wudangspirit
What's the fastest way to go from basically not being able to practice in half lotus to full lotus? stretching, yoga, etc. thanks
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Mewtwo,
Fengshui has all kinds of sects and practices. However, Fengshui is also very intuitive once you've got a foundation. There are basic rules then you also have to know Taoist Cosmology, Constellation charting, I Ching and other modalities to have a complete, well-rounded Fengshui practice.
Fengshui can be used in a lot of situations. As for Black Hat? Not sure if it is a fraud or not. There could be fraudulant people practicing for sure like in any other sect or practice.
Tao Bless,
Wudangspirit
I Have read up on black hat sect feng shui and someplaces say if is a fraud feng shui what do you guys think of it?
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Yoda,
Sorry for the late response....
In Taoist practices of exorcism or driving the ghost spirit away there are several methods. If this ghost is not evil it is much easier. A ghost spirit is one in the Yin world. They have died before their time or have a lousy destiny and are lost in that world and don't know it.
Your family member needs to light some incense and walk around with that in the area where the ghost is and tell them to tell the ghost that they are no longer in this realm and they need to go home. I know it sounds hokey but they need to tell them to go to the bright lighted path and don't look back. Tell them that they can no longer function in this realm.
They should go quietly. Ghosts that are very active need to go away. They will not do you any good.
Hope this helps,
Wudangspirit
So a family member has a house that has an active ghost in it. He says that it's not a negative ghost, but is extremely active at times, especially if there are young children living in the home and it will rotate the ceiling fan, lights will float around the room, etc. All this has been photographed and video taped. He had a guy come out before to help it on its way, but it didn't take.
I asked two trusted sources, one said that it's best for all parties even if there's no negativity to help it on its way. Another said that if it's not negative, don't bother with it, but if it is negative you don't have to be a priest to drive it out, just do it.
I don't know anything about this sort of thing. Any thoughts, recommendations, etc. If anyone knows anyone in the New England area specifically who might can do an on site assessment, let me know too.
Thanks!
Kyle
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I would recommend going the the Master Within Intensive. This will give you your foundation. The others are great however if you could only pick one I'd do the intensive this will encompass a lot of things you are talking about.
Wudangspiirt
If I am able to go to Atlanta this summer, that will be great. There are several courses being offered on different days:
- Friday evening, June 13 - Taoist Philosophy & Wudang Meditation
- Saturday, June 14 - Wudang QiGong
- Sunday, June 15 - Wudang Tai Chi 52 Movements
- Monday, June 16 - Tai Chi Intensive (10 hours)
- Tuesday, June 17 - Teacher & Certification Training (10 hrs)
- Wednesday, June 18 - Friday, June 20 - The Master Within Intensive
Which do you recommend? I am interested in San Feng Taijiquan, so perhaps that one. I would do the Master Within because I've heard it's really good, but I don't have $800 right now.
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Wu Liu,
My suggestion is to start with meditation and then go to the seminar in atlanta. That is with my Master. I was initiated into the Wudang Longmen Nei Dan Pai (Inner Elixir Schoo） several year ago under Master Chen. Whatever you decide however, you should follow the guidance of a teacher. I only mention my Master because you brought that up.
Also you need to know that Taoism is about following your "tao"or way. So after you get a foundation from a teacher you still need to listen to your inner self and nature for guidance.
Tao Bless,
Wudangspirit
Okay,
I need some input. I have no access to a teacher (I might get to go to the Wudang seminar in Atlanta this summer,) but right now I'm on my own. I've been trying to learn inner alchemy, and I've been reading books for a year and several months. I haven't started anything yet because I wanted to really know what I was getting into before starting. But I think I've figured out a whole system.
Tell me what you think (tell me any flaws you see because that's why I'm putting this on here!)
I'm working on the foundation right now by reading and rereading the Tao Te Ching and the Tao Hsuen Pien.
Then I'm going in the direction of the Northern School of Quanzhen, and cultivate my mind first using the Secret of the Golden Flower (Cleary's version)
Then I'm going to cultivate the body with Taijiquan and a type of Qigong.
Does this sound like a total system? I would appreciate info especially from those of you who are initiates in any system (but particularly Quanzhen.) If I could become an initiate I would, but this is going to have to do for now
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Meditation and Taoism is about non-attachment. Motion comes from stillness. Returning is the motion of the Tao. If you mind is goind in all directions wait til it calms before beginning your meditation. Quiet sitting is a way to calm your mind.
Wu Wei er Wu Bu Wei....Do Nothing and Leave Nothing Undone.....
Wudangspirit
I'm trying to find ways to control my mind. I repeatedly watch my thoughts catch onto anything that could relate to a traumatic experience in my past, and take some of my concentration. I'd like to find a type of meditation that would help me with this and let my mind continue on it's way. I'd also like to have more composure over my brain. I practice NLP, Chia's inner smile and microcosmic orbit, and some meditations out of Ram Dass's 'be here now' which are helpful. Anybody have some suggestions? I believe this is my last particularly noticeable ego-trip. the rest will just be a calming of the mind, and spiritual growth with my wife.
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A true help in this matter would be to go to a good TCM doctor and have them diagnose what is causing the problem. In TCM we treat the cause not the problem in most cases. I could give you suggestions but without actually seeing the person or knowing what the TCM diagnosis is it would only be guessing and you don't want to guess when it comes to people's lives.
However, to build the kidneys (which may not even be the cause), you can get black (silk) chicken along with Dong Quai, red dates, and other various herbs (this is a common formula) and make a strong concentrated beverage. This will change the hormone levels and also strengthen the kidneys. However that is mostly for women.
Biggest suggestion...go see a TCM doctor that is highly recommended.
Tao Bless and sending qi to your friend...
Wudangspirit
Can anyone here help me. I just found out a close friend is in near end stages of renal failure.
What TCM treatments are used to strengthen kidneys?
What other things are recommended.
Please only reply if you have a good understanding of such things.
Thanks to all in advance.
-matt
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Wenwu,
I started my martial arts training at age 6 with my chinese/vietnamese neighbors. I learned some internal kung fu systems and preying mantis gong fu. I practiced that for about four years then started learning qigong from an old chinese man that happened to be a grandfather of a friend. However, my hardcore training started around the age of 13 in Shaolin 5-Animal Gong Fu.
For the last 8 years I've practiced wudangquan internal gong fu. Wudangquan is part of my Taoist practice and is just as fast moving as the external forms however is internal with snappy moves using fajing.
Gong fu is a way to cultivate yourself mentally, physically and spiritually. As a part of the daily Taoist regimen at Wudang it is a way to immortality.
Tao Bless,
Wudangspirit
a num ber of people on this site do gong fu
what are the reason for doing it, fighting, self defence, mediatation etc.
have you found what you are looking for?
Missing The Point
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VERY NICE! this encompasses the true foundation of inner cultivation. You have to give up the need in order to realize your true self and once you do there are no limitations.
This is what you call being a pillar between heaven and earth with your feet solidly planted on the ground and your head (spirit) in heaven as a guide.
Well done and Tao Bless!
Wudangspirit