Dagon

What do you mean vibration? Could someone say he is just shaking?

I'm talking about visible signs that wouldn't be able to be reproduced or faked by anyone.

I need there to be no doubt that there is something going on, even to a skeptic.

Like Wim Hof.

I feel like my chi should be measurable, at least in the brain, I know there is visible evidence of it on my body because goosebumps always appear when I channel the chi. I haven't met anyone in real life that I could replicate experiments with,(run side by side experiments with a control group) and If there is someone like me then I would like to set up an experiment for us, or have an independent party conduct it to eliminate any confirmation/affirmation bias.

 

(P.S. if there is someone like me, then I will send you pics or a video to prove it if you do the same, and we can go forward from there. If you don't feel comfortable talking about it in public then please PM me.)

 

I mean, I've heard of a lot of people it happens to at random, but not really any that can manifest it at will.

 

I'm working with this one guy that is showing potential, but I don't know if it will manifest or not.

I am wondering if there is anyone else who shows visible and objective signs of chi traveling through the body when they are channeling chi.

(I am talking about Without instruments, you can see it with the naked eye.)

Do you guys show visible signs of chi? I mean objectively visible?

Thanks.

Dagon, the OP was clear about what they were hoping for in this thread. Its not that you are not welcome to ask questions. Perhaps if your question was not like a smart-ass comment from the kind of disruptive hipster that populates the back row of thousands of intro-philosophy classes, then your query would have been better received. I'm not saying anything about you, only the nature of the question.

 

I have only one piece of advice in the world of cultivation. Be honest. Most of this world of Qigong and Neigong is a heavy mix of self-delusion and wishful thinking laid on top of crude folk models of ancient wisdom that make up a vast constellation of metaphysical assumptions and ignorance. The majority of so-called "Masters" are shining examples of the power of fake-it-til-you-make-it.

 

The thing is that the profoundly complex nature of existence means that we must lie to ourselves much of the time, and that our coping mechanisms are necessary to survive, despite that fact that most of our models of the world are complete fiction. Acting as if you can do it, especially when grounded in some kind of traditional version of wisdom, does very often result in positive physical cognitive and emotional changes (and, dare we say, spiritual awakening). So the lying, pretending and magical thinking is kind of needed to move forward to a greater or lesser degree in these practices.

 

In my experience the teachers that I have met, and sometimes studied with, that really seemed to have their finger on some kind of pulse of existence were the ones who were the most radically honest about their practice.

 

Know what you do not know. Don't confuse an experience with being experienced. Be honest about both strengths and weaknesses. Be honest about how you train, are you present or do you go through the motions or what is the mix? Be honest about your sensations; do you really feel it or do you just really want to feel it? Be honest about whether you are doing your own practice or just following your teacher; three years of classes without time spent on your own is plenty of teaching but zero training?

 

There is a lot of compassion to be found in radical honesty. Its hard for the ego to pop up too much if you recognize that you are largely faking your own life. Once we start to learn how hard it is to reach a standard of honesty in our own lives it sheds a clearer light on the struggles of the others around us. The more we can recognize that our teachers face the same struggles the sooner we can stop imposing upon them the pedestal of perfection to which no human can actually rise. Honesty grounds the lessons we give and receive into fruitful soil and reduces the risk of heading down a path of error and perhaps even risk.

I was genuinely curious, but whatever.

How should I have better phrased my question to not look smart-ass?

I am also wondering if the teacher's have websites to sign up for lessons and/or evaluate their methods.

What styles do the teachers teach and who are some of your students here?

I feel like my chi should be measurable, at least in the brain, I know there is visible evidence of it on my body because goosebumps always appear when I channel the chi. I haven't met anyone in real life that I could replicate experiments with,(run side by side experiments with a control group) and If there is someone like me then I would like to set up an experiment for us, or have an independent party conduct it to eliminate any confirmation/affirmation bias.

(P.S. if there is someone like me, then I will send you pics or a video to prove it if you do the same, and we can go forward from there. If you don't feel comfortable talking about it in public then please PM me.)

I mean, I've heard of a lot of people it happens to at random, but not really any that can manifest it at will.

I'm working with this one guy that is showing potential, but I don't know if it will manifest or not.

I can see in the dark and see stars when I look out the corner of my eyes, I also see purple when I close my eyes. Like if I look directly at the path in the woods at night, I don't see hardly anything, but once I look from the corner of my eyes it is much more visible, It's something about the angle of the light hitting the rods (rod cells) in the retina at an angle and amplifying the light. Pretty weird.

One time this guy was practicing healing people with his "higher self" and I saw green while it was happening, which is weird because I usually just see purple.

Try looking out of the corner of your eyes rather than directly at something, you would be surprised how much more you can see.

Die of hunger rich,

But do not die as a snitch,

The lich does not flinch.

Ok thank you.

I used both nothing and void

Thanks for your help.

Thanks ChiDragon, what about the white ones in the corners?

I don't know why but it seems to break after a couple days from that upload site.

Do I have these symbols in my avatar: Earth, wind, water, fire, lightning, nothing(void) ?

Brachiate like apes,

Prepare for your fate today,

Tomorrows for Frey.

 

 

this is a little trollish. You can read the OP which states: <teacher=teaching students > 1 year

 

I'll remind you there are hundreds of threads you are free to answer. You can even start your own. This one I'd prefer to concentrate on teachers answers. If thats a problem for you or you have questions about why, then PM me. Please don't hijack this thread, start a new one instead.

Thanks.

 

Sorry, I was asking the teachers. I see your definition, I was interested in the teachers and wasn't trying to answer anything . . .

(I didn't know certain questions weren't allowed.)

My apologies.

I guess I'm not welcome to ask a question.

Where's the beat, Hey, gone,

with the wind I soar up high,

Like a bird I fly.

Teachers, can you define what is a teacher?

Has a student ever been a teacher to you?

Hey, new creation,

Five elements as they are,

make up you and me.

I think it is good to let go of tradition and beliefs attached to them if they are found to be inaccurate, why should you keep them?

Start hugging poets,

It's the end as we know it,

Add a little wit.

The music's gaga.

Makes you sing: "La la lala,

La la la lala."

Horns, Hoofs through, tail not,

Chopped off at the love knot slot,

It's not what you thought.

Some just crush a lot,

Some just talk and never walk,

A key to unlock.

Just missed the waiter,

to my pleasure he caters,

Aren't we all players?

 

Yes, I know this is not a mystical event.

 

This is what last night's moonbow looked like.

That is pretty cool, thanks for sharing it with us!

Guided me for years,

Were the trees, streams, thoughts and tears,

Banishing my fears.

"anyone? none? time will tell!"

Means you are pregnant,

If you are superstitious,

Why not just test it.